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[lockettopia]

Herakles #2: Chiron the tutor Entering into adolescence, Heracles finds trouble in Thebes when he kills his music tutor, Linus, in a fit of rage. The boy’s foster father, Amphitryon, sends him into the countryside to herd cattle and be tutored by the brilliant mentor Chiron the centaur, who trains the boy in military strategy, medicine, archery, and athletics. While herding in the foothills one day, Heracles is visited by two divine beings, Vice and Virtue. Vice tempts the boy to abandon his morals and live a life of wealth, pleasure, and decadence. While virtue pleads with him to stay true to his ethics and follow honorable, heroic pursuits. After hearing the arguments, Heracles sides with Virtue. Chiron (Ky-ron) is the offspring of the titan Cronus (disguised as a horse) and the sea nymph Philyra, (making Chiron half-brother to Zeus) unlike the wild race of centaurs who were born from ixion and the cloud nymph Nephele. In contrast, Chiron is most wise and civilized, and is depicted as a full human figure with the back half of a horse. Upon the slopes of Mount Pelion, Chiron mentors such famous heroes as Asclepius (god of healing) Achilles and Jason (of the Argonauts). Chiron met a tragic end, when later in life, he and Heracles fight other centaurs, and Heracles accidently shoots Chiron with a poisoned tip arrow. Being immortal, Chiron suffered greatly, until Zeus took pity on him, ending his life and placing him in the night sky as the constellation Centaurus. The episode relating Vice and virtue comes from philosopher and historian, Xenophon’s Memorabilia, and is commonly referred to as Heracles at the crossroads. In the work, the character Socrates relates the tale of two large statured women approaching Alcides. The first, Vice, is described offers gratifications of physical senses, and a life of ease. While Virtue, described as dignified, argues for moderation, and achievement in glory and honor through sacrifice and struggle.

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[moonstruckdraws]

I've read this multiple times on multiple occasions and it's still fricking funny to me that Cronus (I need to start saying Kronos because I find it cooler but my brain cannot wire the association that Cronus = Kronos ack-) just skedaddles out of bed, leaving both women, before Philyra just shuffles out of the room

I just imagine Rhea standing there.

And seeing that Philyra is the only other goddess (that I have seen) he has been with, I like to imagine he takes her as his consort (since I like the idea Rhea leaves him after Zeus overthrows him. And the cheating probably added to that)

[deathlessathanasia]

Did the kronides know that Chiron was their step-brother?

No idea really, I don't remember if such a thing is ever touched upon. In Hyginus' Fabulae Philyra is transformed by Zeus into a tree (at her request) after she saw the kind of child she gave birth to, but there's no way to say for sure if Zeus was aware of her relation with Kronos and of the fact that Chiron is his brother. But then, Philyra in other sources still seems to be a person long after Chiron's birth, such as in Pindar's Pythian 4.

I think it's very possible that everyone knows Kronos is the father of Chiron, though interestingly he is most frequently called by his matronymic, unlike the sons of Kronos by Rhea for whom patronymics are almost invariably used. This could be an indication of the fact that unlike them he is an illegitimate child, I suppose, or maybe of the fact that few people actually know who his father is? Maybe Philyra would prefer to keep that detail secret as much as possible since she seems to be ashamed of the event.

[andreeavrabie4228]

Nobody talks about Philyra (Chiron's mother). Cronus banged her in the shape of a horse, she then gave birth to a baby that was half-human half-horse (imagine just how painful and traumatising this was) and then Cronus turned her into a linden tree:

Pseudo-Hyginus, Fabulae 138 :

"When Saturnus [Kronos (Cronus)] was hunting Jove [Zeus] throughout the earth, assuming the form of a steed he lay with Philyra, daughter of Oceanus. By him she bore Chiron the Centaur, who is said to have been the first to invent the art of healing. After Philyra saw that she had borne a strange species, she asked Jove [Zeus] to change her into another form, and she was transformed into the tree which is called the linden."

This is completely fucked up in so many ways.

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There's a monkey in the basement How did the monkey get there? There's a monkey in the basement Where did the monkey come from?

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“This is a song I wrote on a Casio keyboard that cost thirty-five dollars. It has two chords. One is G, the other one is… we’ll find out.” - 11.21.2016 Chicago, IL

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I had a thousand good questions I was gonna ask you when you finally came by But now that you're really here There's only one question that comes to my mind And that question being What's with all the Portuguese water dogs I'd like to repeat the question What's with all the Portuguese water dogs

from Philyra (1994)

"This is a song I wrote on a Casio keyboard that cost thirty-five dollars. It has two chords. One is G, the other one is... we'll find out." 

- 2016-11-21 - Second City - Chicago, IL