#pjo lore

[randomness-is-my-order]

what people don’t get about percy’s fatal flaw being loyalty is that it isn’t a cop-out resulting from the main character syndrome or rick trying to keep unlikeable traits away from percy–it’s that even a noble trait like loyalty can become bad or fatal to oneself if practiced in extremes. that’s literally the whole point. nothing, absolutely NOTHING is good in excess. that’s why we have the phrase: _____ to a fault. fill in the blank with good attributes all you want, the meaning remains the same. loyalty can and will become a source of moral conflict and self-destruction if not leashed to healthy amounts. and that’s why percy’s extreme loyalty is a flaw because it hurts him and makes him go against the “morally right” thing to do. his loyalty is fatal to his ownself. you cannot call any trait a “good” one if it comes at the cost of harming the one that displays it, can you? loyalty is inherently a good, noble thing to practice but when you stretch it wide, when your personal loyalty to someone blinds you to the hurt it causes others and yourself, when you cannot critique people you’re loyal to (something percy very much struggles with), it becomes a flaw. a fatal one.

[queen-of-wisdom]

I just remembered a post, where someone said, that Orphanages in the Wizarding World (Harry Potter) are probably in The Know™ because many Wizards & Witches died during the Voldemort Era, leaving their children as orphans and so I must think...

Could the same be applied to CPS in the Riordanverse?

Because when we really think that CHB is a pyramid scheme (no phones>no social network outside of CHB>being stuck in CHB>having to train>going on a quest > dying & ensuring that demigods could never overthrow the gods), then it wouldn't be a surprise.

I mean, everyone knows that CPS isn't always doing the BEST job (or at least could one say that about the German CPS...) but think about it.

Where was CPS when Jason Grace, a two year old just vanished and right after, Thalia Grace, his twelve year old sister? Or when the seven year old Annabeth Chase run away? There must be hundreds of children that just "run away" at a very young age, don't they wonder?

I have ideas how CPS might be influenced for looking away.

- Adult demigods recognize the signs of other demigods and manipulate the mist, so that the mortals don't notice anything

- Mortals in higher positions are in The Know

- Some minor gods are punished the same Dionysus is, just that they have to work at CPS

@fairytalesociology

[percabeth4life]

I know we all have our favourite "thing Percy did one time and then was never brought up again" but I really do wish there'd been some kind of development on the idea that Percy can apparently summon sea water anywhere ~the land remembers being underwater~ because???? That feels like it would apply to most places if he can go back far enough?? And sure he was using the tiny sea shells in the scene in BOTL where he did it but if it's just about What Used To Be then does he really need them?? All I'm saying is threatening to drown the Greek peninsula and sink the Acropolis out of Gaea's domain sure would be one way to change the end of BOO for the better

Gods I wish that his powers were explored soooo much more. Like there’s so much to use there- he should totally have summoned a tsunami at one point. Just let him go apeshit.

[percabeth4life]

Battle of Manhattan

So, continuing from my previous post about how the Campers held the city with 40 campers (41 counting Percy himself) I did a breakdown of the campers.

From the book-

Apollo had Williamsburg Briddge

Demeter had Brooklyn-Batter Tunnel

1/2 Hermes had Manhattan Bridge

1/2 Hermes had Brooklyn Bridge

Aphrodite had Midtown Tunnel

Hephaestus had Holland Tunnel

Athena had 59th Street Bridge

(Dionysus apparently doesn't exist even though there was one kid left there)

Artemis Hunters handle Lincoln Tunnel

OO OO OO OO OO OO OO OO OO OO OO

So then, lets break this down (ignoring the Hunters right now).

Straight facts, this averages to 5.8 campers a tunnel, so 5/6.

We know Hermes had the most campers, I’m gonna estimate 14 just because... they had enough to be split in half (but that’s already over 1/4 of all the campers present).

Then Aphrodite had the second most, I’m going with 8, otherwise it’s just too many.

Of course the one cabin we have exact numbers in is Dionysus, 1 kid there.

This becomes 23 campers already. We’ve only gotten through three cabins (and three entrances).

In book one of PJO we know the Athena cabin had 12 people, seeing how many campers left, I’ll cut that in half, so 6 left. (29 total).

Then there’s the Hephaestus cabin, who canonically had 4 in book one, and with the way one died... I’d say 2/3 of them left. We’ll be nice and say 3 (32 total).

Demeter I’m going with 4 because there are 8 slots left (36 total).

Canonically Kronos determined the bridge the Apollo cabin was guarding the weakest link, he specifically targeted for that. That leads me to believe there weren’t many campers there, only 3 were named. Well... there had to be at least one more than that since one died/went missing, one was stolen by Percy to heal Annabeth, and the last was leading the search for the dead/missing one. So 4 (40).

Plus of course, Percy himself (41).

That means that

Hermes: 14 (split in 2 groups of 7)

Aphrodite: 8

Dionysus: 1 (location unknown)

Athena: 6 (but Annabeth was with Percy so 5)

Hephaestus: 3

Demeter: 4

Apollo: 4

And each one of these groups (excluding Dionysus) guarded a tunnel/bridge.

The Hunters held 30 on their own, and held one entrance, they barely met any resistance. They were mixed in more with the other forces after the first day.

They held the city with these numbers. They held the city for more than a few days alone with these numbers. They had at minimum three titans on the opposing side, a drakon, and the Clazmoniansow.

OO OO OO OO OO OO OO OO OO

The Party Ponies showed up at the end of the second day. The Campers alone held the city for a full day, and nearly held it the entire second day.

Even one day is nothing short of a miracle.

The Greeks were clearly incredible fighters, these small numbers should’ve been overrun within an hour, at most, but they held several entrances with hundreds of enemies on their own.

The end of the second day brought with it the Party Ponies, roughly 500 total, they only managed to hold a few blocks and their numbers were cut down very quickly. Again, the demigods made up the bulk of the forces.

There were also a collection of dryads and satyrs that offered some aid, but most only helped in the areas with trees, which the city in general does not have much of.

EDIT: I should also note that by the second day at least 1 was dead (probably more but not confirmed) and everyone but Percy was injured in some manner. On top of that, day one had no Dryad/Satyr aid. They did have the statues, but they aren’t mentioned at the Apollo Bridge.

OO OO OO OO OO OO OO OO OO

In conclusion: Greeks man.

[percabeth4life]

A Camp Half-Blood schedule! Because I need these things written out and color coded.

After dinner there are activities, Freeze Tag, Hide & Go Seek Tag, and Gauntlet are extra ones I added in because Capture the Flag isn’t enough.All take place in the forest, all but Capture the Flag are every other week activities.

Freeze tag: a bunch of small teams, can be mixed cabin, that compete to have the most players left unfrozen at the end of the game. Meant to train evasion, team work, stamina, and stealth.

Hide & Go Seek Tag: Two main teams, hider team larger than the seeker. These are arranged by team leaders that are switched weekly, winner is determined when time runs (the hiders win then) or all the hiders are found and tagged. Meant to train stealth, evasion, and tracking.

Gauntlet: Two teams, randomized (Mr. D decides them so bribe at your own risk), half hide in the forest (team 2) along a straight path, they cannot physically enter the straight path. The other half (team 1) have to run along the straight path from one end of the forest to the other, goal is to reach the other side safely. Team 2 is free to do anything short of touching the ground on the straight path in order to stop team 1 from making it through. Meant to train (team 1) speed, evasion, stamina, (team 2) accuracy, hearing, and stealth.

General activities info below the cut

Every day Breakfast/Cabin Inspection/Freetime- 6-9 am every weekday Breakfast/Cabin Inspection/Freetime- 6-10 am weekends Lunch/Freetime- 12-1 every day Dinner- 6-7 pm every day Sing-a-long and bonfire- 9-10 pm Lights out- 11pm

Required- can do more than required Shield and sword work- Arena- 3x a week Archery- Archery field- 2x a week Monster Assault Techniques- 2x a week Horesback riding (2 hours)- Stables- 1x a week Running training- 1x a week Wilderness survival- 1x a week Working in Strawberry Fields- 1x a week Javelin throwing- 1 every other week

Optional Arts and Crafts Forging Music Canoeing Ancient Greek Medical training/helping in infirmary

[neurodivergent-fangirling]

That satyr hideout is a cool bit of lore that wasn’t in the books. I wonder how many there are, and where? It probably makes it easier to travel cross-country if there are monster-free zones.