#pluto-venus

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Obsession in Astrology PT 1: Pluto-Venus Aspects

Disclaimer: this is my own work, do not repost my content as your own! Give credit where credit is due, please. This post is for entertainment purposes only & should be taken as such as astrology is much too nuanced and complex.

As a fair warning, I will be going into great depth here, so if you don’t see a common placement or feel like I’ve missed something, I assure you I have not! It's all coming 🙂

I’m going to be focusing on pluto + Venus for this post, because, well, why not? Let’s first talk about what pluto is.

Pluto is an outer & generational planet that is traditionally ruled by Scorpio. Pluto symbolizes death, destruction, rebirth/transformation psychics, darkness, sex, occult interests / practices etc.

When we consider things like obsession or stalking, pluto is very comfortable here. is a very slow moving planet, so this planet can dwell in a sign for 20 years on average, but it can even be in a sign for 30 years, so when we are looking into things like obsession, stalking/stalkers, having high influence — the sign pluto is in does not matter as much as the house and aspects.

In this post, I’ll be going over the pluto-venus placements found in your birth chart that I feel could definitely signify obsession.

Pluto-Venus aspects

I just want to say that ALL Pluto-Venus aspects could involve stalking/obsession! But, let's talk about it.

Difficult aspects (conjunctions, opposites, squares) are arguably more difficult, of course.

Having pluto conjunct Venus can sort of emphasize this energy in your life and can bring extreme emotional or sexual intensity from others. This placement, to me, unfortunately means you will always attract very intense, obsessive, possessive and all consuming people into your life until you have better boundaries. You're like the real life Jessica Rabbit (or masculine equivalent or whatever) and people literally GAWK at you. Now, while I have to give you credit, you don't seek attention -- you are also not naive that it is there, and you can rather enjoy the intensity, admiration and devotion from others. They're obsessed with you, and you're obsessed with being obsessed over. You give off an intensity that people can sense, and that makes you very powerful to them. This is definitely the placement that deals with people that want to "own" them. Your exes, or situationships could be your biggest stalkers, popping in and out of your life for Intel on you lmaooo. You often become unforgettable to people even when you move on.

Having pluto square venus can make love seriously feel like a power struggle. YOU are the one who can struggle with obsession or obsessive thinking in terms of your relationships, but this isn't a one size fits all. You can just as well experience very intense obsession from others -- the difference is, this feel all consuming to you over time. While pluto conjunct Venus "rolls with the punches" when it comes to this energy, pluto square Venus can't just do that. You become consumed with the pain from these intense connections (or they do). This aspect can feel like being addicted to the absolute wrong person, to the person who hurt you the most. Or wanting someone so badly you can feel like you're losing yourself. I've also noticed that people can get addicted to any mental/mind games they THINK you're playing. They can even get addicted to the betrayal they feel by you, for instance, if you reject them they will obsessively think about it. For years.

Having pluto opposite venus can make the obsession you face feel like a game of tug of war between love and control. The kinds of stalkers or people who become obsessed with you tend to be people who can trigger your shadow side. The type of obsession you face could feel especially painful because people could genuinely love & obsess over you until they hate you :/ You might feel like your relationships are very karmic, or fated, much more than the other venus-pluto aspects. You might also feel like you have had past life connections with these people who stalk, or obsess over you. It's unexplainable, but undeniable, and you both feel it. you tend to attract stalkers who put you on a pedestal and see you as the one who completes or exposes them. There's a lot of emotional instability with these people, though - they will swing between adoration and resentment.

With venus trine pluto, people get addicted to the vibes lol. Obsession here is a little different and less intense. Here, obsession tends to be more emotional or spiritual, rather than aggressive. Your energy feels healing and safe, and people do not want to lose that. But remember, pluto is still involved - people can still take it too far. People become obsessed with your kindness and energy, to the point of possession. I see a lot of mistreatment to the placement person because people try to capture that healing essence while clinging on too tight and depleting you from your energy. Yes, you can find lots of energy vampires here. Though you can experience vampirism with any pluto/Venus contact, when these planets are trining, you can attract energetic vampires wanting to capture and possess your kindness and empathy. Your stalkers could be your deeply disturbed admirers who feel entitled to you. Once these people are out of your life, they will stalk the living daylights out of you online. They will also keep romanticizing things between you two even if it's far from reality.

With venus sextile pluto, people become obsessed with you because of how you have changed their lives. Your stalkers feel changed just by knowing you. They feel like you're "destined" to be with them (in any capacity) because of your ability to show others how to transform through dark chapters in their lives. The Obsession you face comes from when people mistake your kindness and empathy for intimacy. I've also noticed that those obsessed with you feel the need to protect you or guide you. They definitely give off the "romantic savior" vibes in a gross way.

IN GENERAL, having any pluto-venus aspects can definitely show that you have people who are obsessed with you, people who stalk you, and people who admire you from the shadows. Connections will usually feel intense, but in lots of cases, you rather enjoy the intensity. People get obsessed with you because you embody something that is hidden, seductive and even taboo in their eyes. You can see through people's facades and you can make people feel naked and exposed and they tend to see this as intimacy and become fixated.

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12th house synastry ✨️

I felT this PERSONALLY as someone who has had 12th house synastry. There's something hidden,typically affection (obvi obvi), and you just want it to come out. You want feelings shared, and once you get desperate, you literally begin to beg. Less sexual, more heartache, and attention seeking.

"I want you to tell me you love me like I think you do" kind of thing

"I need proof that you want me"

Pluto-Venus synastry🌌

As the venus, you get so invested in who the pluto is, their emotional depth, their transformations tranform you. As the pluto, your obsession with them is more than surface level fascination. You want their whole being to belong to you and you alone.

I've been the venus and trust the obsession can be there too don't act like ur innocent, its just a different kind✋️

"I have to confess, you're a speciman"

8th house/strong water synastry 💧 🚿

Not only are you guys freaks in the bedroom, COUGH WE KNOW WHAT THE BEGGING IS FOR YOU HOES COUGH, but you guys also need that natural and raw want from the other. A kind of desire that you usually only read about, and if reciprocated, you give it to each other.

"Don't look away, be an animal"

⚠️ALL OF THESE CAN BE TOXIC AS FUCKKKK IF UR NOT CAREFUL⚠️

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ASTRO OBSERVATIONS • PART NINE 🦋

many cancer suns i know just… LOVE appearing slightly spooky. like. having their nails painted black, big silver rings on every other finger, snake, skeleton, etc. jewellery on (they’re a sucker for lots of jewellery by the way, and they can be very good at layering), alternative style of clothing, chokers and very intense eyeshadow. hu tao kinnies, i swear

i’ve observed that having MERCURY, saturn, pluto, URANUS, neptune in the 3rd house is a huge indicator of struggling with mental illnesses. this is because the 3rd house deals with our mental processes and the perspective in which we take in the world around us. saturn, pluto and neptune are malefic planets, which bring a lot of difficulties and obstacles to overcome, while mercury and uranus have a very inconstant and volatile energy that brings a lot of unpredictable transformations and can make our minds prone to a very unstable nature/coping mechanisms, which is why i put those two planets in all caps. but of course, remember that mental health is a very complex subject and it’s much more complicated than this, plus birth chart interpretations are different and personal to everyone

mercury also deals with our mental processes, it’s the very essence of how our mind works and takes in life, so a highly aspected mercury can make someone have a very fascinating and complex way of thinking, filled with contradictions and different ways of seeing things. it can also make you very introspective because your mind is a very alive and active place

going by that line of thinking, i believe your most aspected planets are the areas in your life where there is the most ground for complexity. the same way people with a highly aspected mercury have a very complex mind, people with a highly aspected moon have a very complex, perhaps even confusing and intense emotional life and relationship with their childhood sense of nourishment and mother figure; your least aspected planets can be the most direct and “in your face” kind of black or white that doesn’t give much space for the greyness.

pluto can be very tied with your feelings of guilt and shame, so its house in your birth chart + the planets it affects can give you huge insight into where you feel guilty. people with a highly aspected pluto in general deal with a HUGE amount of guilt over everything, even things completely out of their control—which can be very burdensome and downright debilitating, due to living life through a constant fear that they’ve hurt others and are guilty of their suffering, feeling very guilty over minor things, etc. but going back to pluto and the themes of guilt you deal with, let me give you an example: i have pluto in the 9th house and i come from a very religious household, and i deal with a lot of religious guilt. pluto aspects my ascendant and i often feel guilty when i feel like i look hot because i feel like i somehow don’t deserve to experience a good self-esteem; pluto aspects my mercury and i feel very guilty over the judgments i make of others, guilt over my intrusive thoughts and stuff like that. i imagine that if pluto aspects your venus, you can feel very guilty over your necessity for love and openly expressing your affection for others, you can also feel ashamed of your past romantic endeavors. pluto aspecting your mars can make you very ashamed of your aggressive and impulsive drive, over the way that you assert yourself. pluto aspecting saturn can make you feel much too guilty when disobeying rules and being irresponsible, you can go beyond and above to be thoughtful towards other people so when you don’t, it makes you ashamed of your behavior, and you can feel veryyyy guilty when you lose control.

having sun conjunct venus is like. oh, im sorry for being fun and flirty and a delight to be around, for being the sun that lights up the life of the people around me, for seeing always the good side of things and being eternally hopeful for better days, for laughing loud and hard and constantly and believing in the goodness of human nature, it is absolutely my fault and i WILL do it again! 😌🦋

mars in aries people…. my beloathed. i urge you to be more mindful and patient with others because time and time again i see people with this placement lashing out on others unprovoked because they can’t keep their own emotions in check. your loved ones shouldn’t be dealing with your explosive tantrums and passive-aggressive silent treatment when they have nothing to do with the emotional battle you’re facing. please do be more considerate

people with jupiter in the 2nd house can be hoarders and feel very attracted towards collecting things of their interest—if you’re into spirituality you can collect crystals, if you’re into anime/kpop/books/video games you can collect a lot of merch of the fandoms you’re in and put a lot of emotional baggage on said collections, which can be hard to break and can develop into a shopping addiction. marie kondo speaks to your hearts

i don’t know which venus in the 7th house/10th house/11th house needs to hear this but you can’t keep using your sex appeal to establish connections and then wonder why all your friends either (1) are in love with you or (2) want to fuck you, have a great day you charming little shit

i fully believe that in pride and prejudice’s book, elizabeth is 100% a gemini, and with heavy gemini influence (in the book, because when i think of the 2005 movie, it’s no surprise that she’s always talked of as a capricorn—but the movie and the book portray her character much differently i feel). her biggest and most distinct personality trait is her wittiness and fondness for analyzing other people’s character; she uses words VERY provocatively and constantly analyzes past recollections, memories, even letters so that she can see them from a different perspective and find the subliminal meanings in them that she missed. i legit cannot think of a character who embodies the gemini archetype more than her, so much of her is tied to her sharpness and even her flaws are tied to the way her mind works, aka her prejudice. AND her biggest trigger is her family embarrassing her with their lack of social intelligence. IT’S SO PERFECT

venus in the 10th house is the biggest milf placement. people with this placement age backwards and tend to grow into their beauty, to bloom more and more as the years go by. the perfect example i have for this is alex (hrh collection) on youtube—i swear she looks more youthful and glowing every time i see her, it’s mystifying

love is stored in the kitchen for 2nd house moons. cook for them and they’ll feel so overwhelmed with emotion, they often forget to take care of themselves so when someone takes the time to prepare them a fresh and cozy meal, it’s the biggest proof of affection for them. and they’ll reciprocate your energy eagerness because they secretly love to take care of others as well, they give peak caretaker energy

in synastry, when your venus conjuncts someone’s venus, people can ship you together a LOT. people can always assume you guys are a couple and you can be constantly told that you’d be very cute together; you can be very soft for each other which makes others suspect you’re more than friends even when you’re just platonic. you guys literally give each other love eyes whenever you’re close

people with mars in the 4th house seem ALWAYS at war with themselves; i swear they could be talking to the wall and still get very argumentative. and, you can bet they will defend themselves to the very end. you can try to come for them, but they’ll always rise stronger and with more perseverance. also, they can give off a very aggressive energy (especially if they have aries in their chart)—even when they want peace and to chill, people think they’re looking for a fight.

the body part which your saturn rules can be the one you use the most, and become more practiced with. i have saturn in gemini and i’m a writer, my bestie also has a gemini saturn and she’s in the arts field where she draws a LOT. “what if i have saturn in capricorn? capricorn rules the knees” that means you’re always sucking dick, next question

planets which are both aspected by saturn and jupiter have that “last year i abstained, this year i devour” energy. mercury aspected by both saturn and jupiter: going from being very silent to very talkative REAL fast. moon aspected by both saturn and jupiter: going from feeling emotionally numb to overwhelmingly intense emotions. venus-saturn + venus-jupiter: addicted to affection vs. feeling repulsed and terrified of intimacy. wearing your emotions on your sleeve and then, protecting your heart with an iron grip. with saturn aspecting jupiter, you can go from incredibly responsible and low-energy to dangerously impulsive and hyperactive in a heartbeat.

being saturn/capricorn/aquarius ruled/dominant can make you a very studious person, not necessarily related to school. even if you didn’t care at all for school, you find it very important to be a highly educated person, so you research a lot on the topics which pique your interest, you constantly expand your vocabulary and you can feel very drawn towards extensive reading and critical analysis. video essays my beloved

listen to moment by victoria monet—whatever that song irradiates, is the essence of people with pisces placements/neptune predominance in their birth chart

having venus/moon in the 3rd house in your composite chart with someone can point to bonding through your music tastes, also to listening to music while thinking of the other person a lot, to dedicating each other songs + making playlists together; music is a whole love language for you guys

i have NEVER met a sagittarius/jupiter dominant in my life who wasn’t OBSESSED with christmas. they have that “157 days till christmas!! i can’t wait 🥰” energy LMFAO, they get so excited about festivities in general

having a 4th house predominance in your composite chart with someone, or having your planets falling in someone’s 4th house and vice versa in synastry can point to showing love through cooking for each other, cooking and eating a lot together, teaching each other new recipes, etc

having a strong 7th house energy can literally mean you get involved with the law a lot. especially when personal planets are there, you can find yourself fighting through legal cases in the court throughout your life, and they can get messy and very time-consuming.

Virgo in the birth chart can indicate your biggest source of anxiety. If you have virgo in the 6th house, you can be very anxious at work due to a perfectionist streak and fear of failure. If you have virgo in the 11th house, you can be very anxious thinking of the future and thus, have a million different plans to overcompensate for your fear of not achieving success. With virgo in the 7th house, your relationships can be what gives you the most anxiety + the way you’re viewed by others, your reputation. Virgo risings can be extremely anxious when it comes to their identity because they find it difficult to know who they truly are and what they want from life. With moon in virgo, you can fear emotional turmoil and so you avoid overly emotional situations so that you won’t lose control of your emotions. you can also be incredibly anxious when it comes to receiving criticism. jupiter in virgo can feel anxious about their luck or lack thereof, by feeling like luck is barely ever on their side, and that they have to work very hard for whatever they want because it never comes easily.

i feel like… people with venus conjunct mars often feel uncomfortable by the amount of attention they receive. like. they understand very well how magnetic and charming they are because people don’t hide their obvious preference towards them, but they can become so overwhelmed by the fact that people just don’t leave them alone. plus, they can often feel oversexualized, like they’ll be at work chilling and people will still constantly try to flirt with them. i want to give yall a hug

the calmest people i’ve ever met had an aquarius mars. and i don’t mean “calm” in the sense that you’re quiet; quite the contrary, you have a very spontaneous and quirky personality. i mean calm in the sense that, in situations where others would have lost their shit, you remained collected. you find it very difficult to show your anger… and you possess an insane amount of patience. you have great leadership skills due to your ability to not only keep your cool but also ease other people’s stress

[randomblack-girl]

All the Boys love Mandy Lane💋

I was watching the movie All the Boys love Mandy Lane and I was thinking of astrology, ofc 🤭. this movie was giving venus-pluto aspects, scorpio venus, or venus-lilith. All the aspects that indicate people being dangerously obsessed with someone. The movie is about a hot girl staying at some guys ranch house with some friends and people start going missing. They show that the killer is her old best friend who is obsessed with her. In the beginning we see him basically kill a guy who was trying to pursue her. SPOLIER ALERT: Now we do see that she was in on killing everyone in the ranch. But she betrays her best friend by breaking their promise, she kills him and goes on to act like the victim. It's not the best movie but it's a somewhat accurate example of what people with these placements can experience.

A list of some placements I think that can relate: lilith in 1st house, pluto-venus aspects, lilith-asc, scorpio venus, pluto in the first house, pluto-asc, scorpio rising, maybe Medusa placements like prominent Medusa or Medusa in the 1st house, pluto dominant, maybe Neptune placements

[astrolocherry]

she was the most beautiful thing you had ever seen in your life but also the most grotesque because she mirrored parts of you that you wanted to hide, and push into the shadows and try not to remember that your something borrowed something immortal, something untrue

Venus - Pluto (Venus conjunct Pluto, Venus trine Pluto, Venus square Pluto, Venus opposite Pluto, Venus sextile Pluto)