#polr

[polr-official]

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[windudemon]

blindspot: a weakness but also a strength?

as an entp i debate impactfully (se demon), i start calling people names etc. not proud or anything but it happens. so... i noticed this one thing: intps/liis are just not affected by my shenanigans and they ignore my hysterics and they keep calm and keep going.

so can we maybe then say... something you can so easily dismiss, is also a strenght?

something like this = here is banana you shitty gorilla, you screamo, now do you have an actual answer for my argument or not?

ok they wouldn't say shitty and they also wouldn't call you screamo but you get the point.

NOW! I KNOW! this won't apply to infp at all even though also se blindspot. infp would hate it if you call em names and impact them.

so my lii/intp observation here is not only se blindspot but also the fe inferior. double weakness turning into strength. BUUUUT! what would be the infp version of this then? you know, se blindspot + te inferior can generate a strength too?

so maybe they can do surprisingly well in a harsh te environment? as long as it's not personal, as long as te orders are shouted at a room they are in, not to them directly? they maybe wouldn't take things personally at work and ignore overly commanding people andddd maybe evennnn that would make those shot-callers like the infp? they would maybe feel like you are a little baby infp but you are much more of a professional than these people and you come in time and you don't whine and you always do your part consistently?

AND THEN, OVER TIME, the boss realizes infp is not moved in a positive or negative way by him? so he leaves him alone? he respects him even? he trusts him even? this infp is a responsible person and will do his part?

so in short, for infp te + se weakness turns into following strenghts: resilience, professionalism, reliability, understanding. not fighting against hierarchy but accepting it as reality.

straight up delta quadra qualities so i must be right.

also the "mutable" pisces in astrology. not fixed, not cardinal so won't clash with teh hierarchy. going with the flow and all tao things.

[demonwindu]

are infps useless in relationships? (also applies to intps since also se polr)

@warmrefrigerator said: eric strauss from twfp called infps useless in relationships because they can't do anything or give anything to their partners because they lack se.

my reaction: i didn't see that video but i can tell you this: each type has so many ways to compensate for their polr aka blindspot function.

for example, entps are fi polr but they are fe mobilizing. so while they have this huge internal resistance to process things with fi, they can totally do it with the other ethics/feeling function which is fe.

they maybe won't share the pain or stress or whatever with you (if situation is real serious, they can do that too, they are not completely disabled of course!), they maybe won't cry with you, but they will try to make the negativity disappear by providing positivity. it's like this: fi shares whatever the feeling is. so when you think the other person understand you truly, you feel better. fe provides universal positivity instead of sharing the problematic stuff. both of these methods works. entp sees you are in a bad mood and he makes jokes. entp sees you are bored and takes you out to catch a movie with you and buys you icecream too! then if all that fails entp kisses you and carries you to the bed and makes you feel loved and cared and stuff.

just like this, inxps who lack se, can instead use si. they maybe won't be like "go, go, go!!!! it's doing shit time now!" but they can do things step by step, slowly and consistently. they maybe won't burst spend shit ton of energy in a very short amount of time but they will plan the stuff and do it in their own pace that doesn't cause them se anxiety.

let's make things even more realistic. infp mother or father, when their childs get sick, won't be able to grab the baby and drive to hospital as fast as they can? they obviously can. so yeah, like i said, huge internal resistance is one thing, unbeatable disability is other. i maybe do not prefer to use fi as an entp but when absolutely neccessary, i will.

another example: maybe estp can make a tree house in the backyard in 2 days but infp can do that in 2 weeks and the result would be more aesthetically pleasing too.

instead of using fi, i can also use ti which is my creative function as an entp. you have a problem? i can think like: what's the fundamental nature of the problem and how to fix it? i can convince you how eric strauss is wrong and when you believe me instead of him problem disappears again.

i am also an ne dom. so i can provide a whole other way to look at things, including fi ones.

infps are 4w3s and 9w1s all the time, right? well, what was 3 again? the achiever. and 1? perfectionist, purposeful, self-controlled blabla.

so yeah, infps maybe won't burst do things but they will lay those bricks one by one perfectly and achieve things. and that, is not useless.

i can also use my se role/demon function: fuck eric strauss! that old bastard. look at how "useful" he was to his girlfriend, rachel. poor girl looks like a totally different person now. just, like, two years ago she was a hottie. wtf happened?

[random-esfp]

Me encanta que hayamos decidido llamar "polar" a la séptima función cognitiva porque sus siglas son PoLR y yo nunca entendía por qué si se llama "polar" lo escribían tan raro.

Hace poco me enteré que PoLR significa: Point of Less Resistance. (punto de menor resistencia)

Para nosotros: polar.

[istj-hedonist]

How should one differentiate between their inferior function and polr function?

inferior function: a function that you use but you are just not good at it

polr function: a function that you don’t use and are annoyed when others use it

[azdromeous]

Ranking things that I’ve experienced in typology servers and VCs on discord, all of these are real except that the INFJ one is sorta abridged.

[fallenpiee]

“don’t say anything”

[entpswork]

agh how to know whether i'm an ENFP or an ENTP? i feel like both of the types kinda describe me but idk if i'm more of an extremely bubbly ENTP or an extremely analytical ENFP lmao

Oh boi…I get this question a lot, both here and irl (in fact, I was discussing this with an ENxP Tumblr friend just yesterday) and I think I might have found a quick(er) way to get around this.

I know plenty of people have done an ENFP vs ENTP post, I’ve seen them circulating and they’re very helpful but a) I don’t think we need any more of those and b) it’s the second time I’m writing this answer cause the app crashed as I was finishing it the first time.

So here’s my *SHORTCUT*:

Instead of looking for what is there, look for what’s not.

Hear me out: in case you’re already familiar with the shadow functions and the logic behind them you may have heard the term Point of Least Resistance (or PoLR for short). PoLR is basically the only function you don’t possess. It’s not underdeveloped or anything, it’s just not there.

For ENTPs that function is Fi and for ENFPs it’s Ti. So ask yourself: Is it hard for you to form opinions when you can’t simply weigh pros and cons? Like with movies, songs etc…if yes, you’re probably an ENTP. Lack of Fi makes us indifferent for many things. I mean, I may see all the good parts in a film and all the bad parts but do I actually like it? Yeah Idk.

Now about Ti PoLR…I’m not sure I can speak about it accurately, but from what I’ve understood when reading about it, it seems that ENFPs don’t feel the need to pick stuff apart and analyze them. They feel content with concrete answers that make sense to them without demanding the logic behind them. Basically, they just need their Te satisfied.

I may be wrong on this one, but even if it’s not about their PoLR this is a clear difference. If I can’t understand the logic behind something important for my classes (I can give examples), even if I know all the rules and can solve the exercises (technically I wouldn’t need anything more) it will be constantly in my head until I get an answer. I’ll probably even see the question is my sleep IF I manage to sleep. Okay I may be exaggerating but you get the point.

I hope this helps! I know it’s still some work to do but hopefully it’s faster than other ways :) Good luck!

@orangeslicesandfetalspooning thoughts?