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Linda Perry

Anonymous asked: Linda Perry? My brain just keeps going 'ISTP doesn't quite feel right.'

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ENFP's age crisis from weeks ago...

Everyone: 🎶HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR ENFP! HAPPY-

ENFP: *starts crying loudly like a child*

INFP: hey hun what's wrong? 🥺

ENFP: *still crying and sniffling* I'M AN OLD *keeps crying loudly and repeating "I'M AN OLD" over and over more quietly while whimpering*

ISTP & INTP: 😂😂

ESTP & ENTP: 😑😑

INFP: *pats ENFP* hey hun you're not old, in fact lemme send you this article I found specifically about neurodivergent people, apparently they consider us young adults up till 32!

ENTP: phew I still got some time, sucks for you tho 💀 *looks at ESTP*

ESTP: fuck off 😂

INTP: 😌 feels so good to be 28

ISTP: feels even better to be 27 😌

INTP: 😒 big deal, one year "oh wow" 🙄

ISTP: jealous? 😌 because I got ONE more year to do stupid shit?

ESTP: hey I still do stupid shit

ISTP: compared to years ago you barely leave the house

ESTP: YOU LITERALLY ALMOST NEVER LEAVE THE HOUSE WTF ARE YOU JUDGING ME FOR 💀

ISTP: I still go to the gym

ESTP: BECAUSE I BRING YOU 💀

INFP: GUYS, enough, come on, *does a head sign pointing at ENFP, kinda signaling to them to be more considerate*

ESTP, ISTP, INTP, & ENTP: oh right sorry 😅😅😅😅

ENFP: *still crying loudly* I'm not a twink anymore ;A; twink death CAME FOR MEH, I am an OLD, I am CLOSER TO THE GRAVE NOW, than I am closer to birth! ;A; life is SO UNFAIR

INFP: *rubs ENFP's back* ENFP, who cares about societal norms, also you're NOT closer to your grave than to your birth-

ENFP: -WHAT IF I DIE AT 75?! ;A;

INFP: 😅 you don't know when you're gonna die ENFP, no one knows when they're gonna die actually...

ENFP: ;A; SEE THAT'S EVEN WORSE, I COULD EVEN DIE TOMORROW INFP

INFP: *gets a bit triggered due to trauma* YOU'RE NOT DYING TOMORROW OK.

ENFP: 😢 *hides face with arms and cries*

INFP: wait hey no no no look I'm sorry I didn't mean to yell at you 🥲

ENTP: now who's being offensive? 💀

INFP: *glares at ENTP showing his teeth* 👹

ENTP: EEK 🥲

ENFP: *starts singing while still crying, the "Unfair" song by Felix Lee* 🎶mY LIfe is SO unFAir, EvrYOnE sEEs mE As...🎶

INFP: *gulps* 🥲 I'm sorry, babe hey *hugs ENFP*

ENTP: *snorts*

ESTP: *lightly smacks ENTP* dude...

ENTP: sorry sorry 💀

ISTP: anyway I'mma go to my room to enjoy my youth, you olds keep crying 💅

ESTP: 😑 ah yes, going to your room like a cranky old man 💀

ISTP: *angrily and quickly* WATCH IT 👹

ESTP & ENTP: 💀💀

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"The stupid MBTI test"...

ENTP: you know what, lets take that stupid and idiotic ass "64 types" test, I wanna see what it says about us and what STUPID ass "extra combo" it gives us

ENFP: *deep sigh* ENTP, I GET why you don't like the formula, I don't either but-

ENTP: BECAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING TESTS IN THE FIRST PLACE TO FIGURE OUT YOUR MBTI IT'S NEVER FUCKING ACCURATE, AND THIS STUPID ASS TEST DOESN'T EVEN TEST FUNCTIONS

ENFP, INTP, & INFP: *judgmentally stare at ENTP*

ENFP: ok, so WHY TF DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE IT AGAIN IN THE FIRST PLACE?

ENTP: 💀 I'm bored and I wanna argue with it

ENFP: ...... you do realize the test isn't like a sentient being right

ENTP: THAT'S THE FUN PART, fighting with non-sentient entities is FUN

ENFP: HOW? THEY CAN'T EVEN RESPOND TO YOU!!!

ENTP: well they do in an automated way though if you think about it

ENFP: BECAUSE IT'S A ROBOT.

ENTP: PRECISELY!

ENFP: 🙃 I do not understand you...

INTP: yeah imagine how I feel 💀

ENTP: JUST TAKE THE TEST AGAIN!

ENFP: OH MY GOD FINE FINE Jesus Christ *takes test again* ok so I got ENFP-AS, and they call me "Free Spirit Explorer"

ENTP: honestly, that kinda tracks... but I will call you "ENFP-Ass" from now on 💀

ENFP: *sigh* 🙃

ESTP: *glances over* you know what lemme take that stupid test too *takes it* ok so I got ESTP-AC, "Thrill-Sharing Entertainer" I mean I so chase adrenaline 😎

ISTP: *pushes ESTP out of the chair and takes the test*

ESTP: dang 😭

ISTP: huh, ISTP-AS, "Solitary Troubleshooter"... Idk, this makes me sound smarter than what I probably am tbh, anyway test is lame and boring, I'mma pass it to INTP

INTP: bro this isn't like a mic or something 😭 but fiiiiine grrrr, I will take it because otherwise ENTP won't get off of my case *takes it* INTP-AS, "Dissecting Explorer of Truth", eh idk how to feel about that but whatever, I do like art of it though, most of it is space themed and that tracks lol

ENFP: yeah the fucking space cat and the space guy that looks kinda witchy 💀

INTP: see idk why he even looks witchy, like it's supposed to be science

ENFP: 🙃 oh not this again...

INTP: what? Magic isn't fucking real, "magic" is just unexplained science-

ENFP: *closes INTP's mouth* how about, you let people enjoy believing in things 🙂, what is the harm in that?

INTP: it makes no sense...

INFP: *deep frustrated sigh* we can't keep having this same conversation over and over with you INTP

INTP: you don't have to I'm not forcing you, I'm not ENTP

ENTP: HEY NOW 💀 I AIN'T FORCING ANYONE ON ANYTHING

ENFP: YOU JUST FORCED US TO TAKE THIS STUPID TEST!!!

ENTP: 💀 I mean, it's not like I had a gun at your head calm down

ENFP: 🥴

INFP: I'll take the test, *keeps talking as he sits down* personally I don't vibe with the entire concept, the fact that people still insist on putting humans into 16 boxes is one of the most ridiculous things to exist, *keeps talking as he's taking the test*, the human brain is too complex to be boxed down into some mindless category, *looks at a question closely* SEE? this one makes no sense, because what context are you referring to? What's the situation? And how do you know if me acting one way or another is not related to trauma, or perhaps being neurodivergent? And I could go either way depending on the context, this isn't good *keeps taking the test and eventually gets a result* INFP-TS "Explorer of Inner Universe"

ENTP: well that explains the philosophical tangent 💀

INFP: YOU DON'T LIKE THE SYSTEM EITHER...

ENTP: BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACCURATE, most of these tests, again, don't test the functions themselves, most are based on "the big 5", and even then, the ones that ARE based on the functions can still be inaccurate because so much goes into people's perception and choices-

INFP: -THAT IS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE. PEOPLE ARE ALL INDIVIDUAL UNIQUE BRAINS, NOT ONE PERSON IS THE SAME

ENTP: ok but they're not CLAIMING that everyone of the same type is "THE SAME" 💀, they're just saying that a group of people collectively tend to prefer a specific stack of the 8 functions-

INFP: -what if there were 16 functions.

ENTP: 😭 that makes no sense, they work in an axis...

INFP: ENTP, these haven't even been proven to exist in the first place, psychologists don't even back these up

ENTP: I KNOW THAT, THAT'S WHY I ALSO HATE IT

INFP: 🥴 then WHY do you pay so much MIND to it in the first place?

ENTP: for fun 💀, LOOK MY BRAIN IS BORED AND THIS IS ALL I CAN THINK ABOUT OK, maybe when I get hyperfixated on an anime again I can forget about MBTI 💀

INFP: 🥴🥴🥴💢💢💢

ENFP: you haven't retaken the test yourself btw

ENTP: actually I did before y'all walked in here

ENFP: so, what did you get?

ENTP: 💀 I'm not telling any of you

ENFP: 😐, so let me get this straight, you MAKE US-

ENTP: -again, no one held a gun at you 💀

ENFP: 🥴💢🙃🙂... take. this stupid. test. again. And then have the AUDACITY, to not tell us your result 🥴

ENTP: 💀 stay mad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

INTP: it was ENTP-TS "Self-Destructive Cynic" or some shit like that

ENFP: HAH... HAHAH THAT MAKES PERRRRRFECT FUCKING SENSE

INFP: mmmmhhhhhhhhmmmmm...

ESTP & ISTP: 💀💀 *huge snort*

ENTP: INTP 🙂, you're sleeping on the stairs tonight 💀

INTP: I've slept in worse spaces it's cool lol

ENTP: 🙂

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Age Crisis...

ENTP: *puts shaping cream on hair and messes it up with the hands until he notices something weird* 🤨🧐🥲 INTP...

INTP: *just observing him* Mhm?

ENTP: 🥲 tell me that's the cream... I mean it's white... or light?... Its the cream right? 🥲 *keeps frantically rubbing the 2 hair strands*

INTP: *looking at the two strands closely* 😬 eeeh 😅

ENFP: it's prolly the cream don't worry 😌 *as he deludes himself too since he just turned the same age as ENTP days ago*

ENTP: *has a short realization that it's not, in fact the cream, but wants to stay deluded* 🙂 I'mma forget I saw that *covers it with the top hair*

INTP: *concerned* uuuuuhhhhh....

ENFP: 😌 you know sometimes it's ok to stay in delulu land

ENTP: 🙂 I'M GONNA. FORGET. THAT I SAW THAT. *keeps doing daily things like taking meds*

ESTP: *looking and listening from far away concerned* *thinks to himself: wait do I? fuck 🥲 I've been dying my hair green for many years so I don't even know 🥲...*

[suchprettypieces]

Not sure if you're familiar with the enneagram personality type system, but I was wondering what Riko and Mish's types are?

I kinda picture Riko as a 3, since he seems very performative but I could also see him as a 7. It's hard to know since we don't get very many Riko POVs that are just him being normal and not in great distress. What is going on in that head of his (if anything)?

As for Mish I frankly have no idea lol.

Familiar?? Darling. Baby. My love. You have no idea how FIXATED I am with the enneagram. Also MBTI and to a lesser (but no less enthusiastic) degree, Gallup's Strengthfinder.

omg omg omg I get to talk about this

OK, first the gobbledygook. The rest of what has turned out to be an essay will be less technical sounding, I promise:

Riko is: ESTP 7w6 so/sp.

For Mish, she is asserting herself more and more as an IxTJ 8w9 so/sp.

(It hasn't yet become clear to me whether she is N or S yet... a lot of stuff happens in later arcs that would make that aspect clearer.)

OK, brace yourself. Because I am grabbing your vest and we are going on a DEEP DIVE BAYBEEEE.

So yes! Riko does present as a an Achiever (3) because of his (somewhat grotty) charm and chameleon-like behaviour. He is extremely adept at looking at situations and figuring out what they need from him and how to fold himself into the shape people want. His actions can look look very very very close to that of a 3.

BUT! The reason why he is an Enthusiast type (7) and not an Achiever/Performer type (3) is because of his CORE motivation:

A 3 is trying to prove their worth.

Riko on the other hand, is trying to stay free - of pain, of helplessness, of being trapped.

A 3's strategy is centred around effectiveness, reputation, or achievement. Riko doesn't do that. If anything, he actively resists being put on any sort of pedestal (he resisted Vetch calling him Ghosthands in the Selah arc).

In Surface Tension, Riko shows he really doesn't care about his reputation. He'll happily tell people he has an STD if it will achieve his goal of them leaving him be.

He lets people underestimate him, constantly undermines himself, and acts a lot stupider than he really is. If the spotlight ever lands on him, he worms his way out from under it. (Duck & Weave)

Not because he doesn't enjoy the attention; he actually is quite the slut for it. He's great at creating it AND holding it, when it serves him.

But he resists having people turn the spotlight on him because has learnt early in life that when people are watching you, your options dwindle. When you are in the light, you can't escape.

Vetch's attack on Riko in the Selah arc was particularly damaging because it targeted ALL the pain points of an Enthusiast (7). Riko became the centre of Vetch's obsession, and he couldn't escape. And then Vetch removed his ability to escape or speak, and trapped him in that maintenance corridor with him. No exits. No talking himself out of it. Pretty much a game over scenario for him.

Aaaaagh.

This constant need to keep moving is also why he very almost leaves in Plant, even though it's probably the best place he's landed in.

It's safe (so far), he's valued by his team, and he's built a deep relationship with Mish. You'd think they are reasons to stay, but for Riko they are reasons to LEAVE. Because they are temptation to stay still. And staying still is dangerous.

The plant is not just a cute gift from a good friend. It represents taking root, and having to STAY and take care of something. Mish and the plant and everything else GOOD are the things that terrify him, because they are all pulling at him to stay put rather than move on, which is his SOP. THAT'S why he's so scared and anxious in Plant.

And talking about fear, it's not his love for Mish that makes him stay. He's used to leaving good things behind.

It's his FEAR of seeing how she'll react to the news of him leaving. The moment she walks in that door and sees him packing, he's pretty much done for. He's been rewired so completely he cannot survive watching her be upset with him because of something he's done.

In that scene, he's stuck between the fear of being trapped by his affection for Mish and his fear of making her sad pissing her off.

Stupid boy.

Sorry, back to the enneagram.

So the reason he is 7w6 instead of 7w8 is because of how he behaves under pressure.

If he was 7w8, he would be more confrontational, a lot bolder, and less concerned with belonging.

But because he's 7w6, he tilts more toward wanting to help and to contribute. Like in Grit.

So even though outwardly his rebellion and stubbornness looks very w8, as a w6 he aims that behaviour to being in service to a group, a person or a system. That's him idiotically disobeying direct orders to evacuate the gassed tunnel and trying to his superior officer to safety in Grit. (Also, he really did delusionally think he could make it out.)

It is also very clear in how he acts with authority. A 7w8 would act in open defiance. A 7w6 reroutes. He finds loopholes, charms, redirects. In Grit, he pretended the blast had damaged his hearing and he couldn't hear his superior's orders to leave her. (That little shit.)

Oh yeah, and the fear he displays with disappointing Mish? Also very 7w6. A 7w8 is a lot more comfortable with conflict and would actually rise to meet it.

Should I write more about instincts (so/sp stuff) and his MBTI? I feel like this has become a lot longer than anyone expected... I seriously get over-excited when it comes to character design with personality frameworks. I've had to learn to gently pump the brakes when I get like this hahhahahah

Aaaaaand I haven't even written about Mish. This... is concerning.

But seriously, is this too technical and obscure? I can write a version that is less so! It does kinda count as Riko/Mish lore, I think. So I'd love for those unfamiliar with the enneagram to know what I'm on about!

For the people who haven't read the fics mentioned:

Surface Tension - Riko doesn't want to hook up. Says he has an STD.

Grit - Riko disobeys orders like the little shit he is

Plant - taking root. Very scary (for Riko).

Selah arc - he can't run, he can't hide, he can't talk his way out of this.

Duck & Weave - Riko avoids the spotlight like his life depends on it. (Because it does). This is part of the Selah crc.

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MBTI & Characters

Jack: ESTP

Episode: Lord of the Flies 1x02

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1) Hey Charity, I've been going back and forth between ESTP and ESFP for my type. I think I could have Fe cuz when my emotions are high I feel the need to extrovert them. If I'm sad or hurt I need to cry and look for understanding, consolation and advice from others. If I'm angry I need to vent or confront the person responsible. When I'm excited I need to tell others about it, in general I look for mirroring of my emotions. But I only open up with people I can trust.

2) I'm in tune with the vibe of the room and people's emotional cues (I automatically read body language and facial expressions). But I could have Fi cuz I have strong morals I can't ignore. My sense of right and wrong is clear and I'm selective about who enters my life. I also know my likes and dislikes. I think I could use Ti since I trust my own interpretation of events and my own theories over accepted facts and external sources. I'm generally impersonal, critical, pragmatic and logical.

3) During arguments I focus on the logical consistency of the reasoning and if it makes sense with how I understand things to work together. Many times I find external sources to be irrelevant or unrelated to the point that is being made. I want things/people to be consistent, make sense and be free of contradictions. But I could have Te since at work and uni I like to have clear guidelines and expectations to meet, it makes it easier to work when I know what's being asked of me.

4) I do ignore rules when they are inconvenient and when I know I can get away with it, but I'm not a rebel. I'm good at creating structure when it comes to work/school projects, but I'm very undisciplined, generally lazy and highly hedonistic. It's a weird combo where intellectually I'm very organized and want things/people to be clear, but physically I'm messy and laissez faire. I've tried analyzing myself, but I ca't introspect to save my life. I only understand myself in hindsight.

ESTP seems right. There’s more logical detachment and emotional mirroring here than a strong sense of Fi, which makes decisions based off things like “is this fair?” “is this authentic to my feelings? Does it violate my values?” You’re asking if it makes sense, if it’s internally consistent, if there are contradictions, and dismissing external facts or evidence (no Te) in favor of your own logical theories (Ti). I doubt you argue from a place of personal conviction; you probably argue from a place of desiring coherency. So… ESTP.

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