a lot of Calypso haters use the Odyssey as a reason to hate her, which is think is really unreasonable. Yes, Calypso is a horrible person in the Odyssey, but so is Circe and Odysseus.
First of all, Odysseus cheated on Penelope with Circe in the Odyssey. I am so tired of people saying that “he never cheated” or “circe raped him”. You could interpret his encounter with Circe as SA, but he did willingly stay with Circe and use affectionate language with her. It was shown in the Odyssey that Odysseus liked Circe and was cheating on Penelope with her.
You could also interpret their encounter as SA, although I don’t think that’s what happened. After Odysseus fails to turn into a pig, he threatens her with a sword, which causes Circe to fall in love with him and coerced him to go to bed with her.
So if some people use the odyssey as a reason to hate calypso, let’s not forget what circe and Odysseus did.
i hate how this fandom treats calypso. like we know why percy forgot about his promise, we know all of this but she doesn’t. she’s trapped in a island with no sense of time and when a hero she loves promised her he would free her, all she knows is that he didn’t when she was naive enough to believe he would. and about the curse, girls are allowed to have nasty cruel thoughts and the way some people expected percy to act around her is really telling to how they see his character.
aporia (noun): in greek philosophy, an impasse; a declaration of doubt. the girl from the real world has been on the island for two weeks; the daughter of the world is cursed to fall in love with male heroes alone. they do not like each other. are the nights cold enough to share a blanket?
Bro mass murdered 108 people, sacrificed six men to Scylla then sacrificed the rest of his crew to Zeus, tortured a literal god, yet y’all can still baby him and be like “ohh he’s just a lil monster rawr rawr rawr”
meanwhile the only thing eurylochus did was open a wind bag, commit a mutiny (which was well deserved tbh), and then kill a cow when he was about to fucking die of starvation, and the fandom turns him into a mean black bigback
I can’t speak for calypso but the SA is not confirmed in Jorge’s musical, so right now the only thing she did is imprison ody for seven years and alienation of affection. However the fandom misinterprets her and gives her death threats and mocks her.
if y’all can “justify” and excuse Ody’s actions because he suffered a lot, then why don’t you excuse calypso actions because she suffered a lot? Why don’t you excuse Eurylochus’s actions because he suffered a lot?
Odysseus was away from home for 20 years and had to suffer through brutal war, but so did eurylochus. Odysseus lost his best friend polities, but so did eurylochus. Odysseus lost six men (because of his own fault), but so did eurylochus. And then eurylochus had to face the betrayal of his best friend and captain (who is actually supposed to lead the men but end up sacrificing all of them) while Ody gets to rant about how much he suffered and have a big dramatic crashout arc when eurylochus literally went through the same thing, and y’all ignore that and exaggerate how much Ody “suffered”.
Also, Eurylochus’s actions are actually defendable, while Ody’s actions were selfish.
“Eurylochus opened the wind bag, causing his crew to die!!”
Odysseus was the one that doxed himself to the cyclops in the first place? Literally none of the sagas would have happened if not for Odysseus.
“Eurylochus killed the cattle!”
He was starving, and hunger makes you do illogical things.
“Eurylochus committed a mutiny!”
Lol, if your best friend and captain just sacrificed six of your friends + planned to sacrifice you as well, how would you respond? That would be a knife in the gut, so Eurylochus was totally justified in committing a mutiny. Odysseus deserved it, and you can’t just expect Eurylochus to sit back and watch.
“Eurylochus did the “final blow” in dooming the crew because he killed the cattle!”
Um, no, Odysseus did the final blow when he sacrificed the entire crew to Zeus. It started with Odysseus, and ended with Odysseus, so I don’t know why y’all are demonizing Eurylochus for this.
Eurylochus is also a much better person than Odysseus, because he cared about Odysseus AND the crew. He also wanted to go home, but he prioritized the crew’s survival, unlike Odysseus.
Another argument I found interesting:
Now, im moving on to calypso.
Calypso was also imprisoned on an island when she was very young and was alone for a hundred years. That is much, much worse than being away from home for 20 years. Y’all are saying “suffering for 100 hundred years doesn’t justify imprisonment and supposed SA, but suffering for ten years TOTALLY justifies mass murder and torture.”
I don’t know if I emphasized this enough, but why is the white character so loved and praised for being flawed and complex, while the black character is hated for being complex and stripped of all her character. Eurylochus and calypso are demonized and reduced down to “mean dumb black person” while people treat Odysseus as if he he’s more complex than both of them.
Just look at how the fandom treats characters like Odysseus, Zeus, and Poseidon vs how they treat Eurylochus, antinous, and Calypso. In fact, Odysseus commits worse crimes than all three of these black characters and y’all still hate on these black characters more than the white ones? I’m surprised that Poseidon and Zeus don’t get as much hate as calypso and eurylochus. Guys?? Y’all telling me this is not fandom racism?
Y’all are sugarcoating Ody and turning his actions into a joke while calypso and eurylochus are literally given death threats? Y’all are not hating on Poseidon and Zeus but instead hate on the black characters that did not commit half of the atrocities the white characters did? Huh??
Not to mention, I’ve even seen people draw Poseidon as black, despite his voice actor being white. At this point, every single villain and aggressor in this musical is black now, and all of the non-white protagonists are whitewashed, like Polites, Aphrodite, and sometimes Ares.
Black characters in this musical are always demonized and stripped of their complexity, and are always seen as angry and aggressive. Calypso, despite having a softer nature, the fandom makes her a wicked, evil, angry black woman. Eurylochus, who is a much better person than Odysseus, is demonized and pitted against Odysseus. Antinous is also a very aggressive and disgusting character, and Jorge specifically asked for a black man to voice him. This made me feel weird, because why are the antagonists and aggressors ALWAYS black?
Black characters like calypso and Eurylochus are constantly being harassed. People give them death threats and put them in disgusting memes, and also harass people who support them. I’m so done with these haters
For anyone who wants to hate on me because I said calypso didn’t SA Ody, I have a post explaining it
💬 1 🔁 2 ❤️ 6 · I don’t think calypso actually raped Odysseus in epic the musical. A lot of calypso haters say that “soon into bed we’ll cl
Y’all treat calypso and Eurylochus as if they did worse stuff than Odysseus. In fact, I’d say that Odysseus committed the WORST CRIMES out of all of these characters, yet y’all can still baby him. Guys???
Here are some disgusting memes directed towards black characters that I randomly found
That’s not even the worst of it, people actually give death threats and harass these characters and those who support them.
That’s the entire rant, don’t cyber bully me for this
I don’t think calypso actually raped Odysseus in epic the musical. A lot of calypso haters say that “soon into bed we’ll climb” is implying that calypso raped Ody. Uhh, SA isn’t something that can be “implied”. If calypso really SAd Odysseus, he would not have said “I love you, but not in the way that you want me to” to Calypso.
You can also say that Odysseus was saying nice things get out of the island, but calypso would have let him go regardless because Hermes told her to. There is no reason to be nice to her if he was SA’d. If Odysseus really was SA’d, he would not have comforted calypso in NSFLY
Also, she was banished to an island when she was very young, so she might have mental issues from being alone for too long, and she was not properly educated before being sent to an island. However that is my interpretation so you can also say that she did know better, but don’t say that “calypso knew better, and that is canon”
It’s also pretty clear that Calypso’s intentions are to get Odysseus to stay on her island and get him to love her, because she is an isolated goddess who wants Ody’s company. Why would she keep Odysseus on her island to rape him? She wants love and company, not a sex slave.
Also, the odyssey and epic are two different things, so you can’t just say “calypso SAd Odysseus in odyssey so she SAd Odysseus in epic.”
