#pro liars

[pro-abortion-rights]

i love how racist conservatives whine about margaret sanger also being a racist as some reason why we shouldn't support pp like...pot calling the kettle much.

It’s not racism when they do it, obviously. But if they have to lie to make one of their targets look racist then they will lie out of their lying asses.

[quotesfromall]

A number of scientists have argued that these miscarriages are not simply the failure of an embryo to develop. Instead, the mother's body may be using chemical cues to asses offspring quality and spontaneously abort embryos that show signs of genetic abnormalities. Miscarriages are a source of great psychological suffering, but they are favored by natural selection because they can reduce nine months of investment to a month or less for embryos that are unlikely to survive or reproduce on their own.

Carl Zimmer, Making Sense of Life

[pro-abortion-rights]

You know statistics show that women who abort become depressed afterwards. Even doctors who abort babies are proven to be in a unstable mental condition. You know aborting babies isn't something someone can really feel passionate about, it can't be someone's 'dream job'. Do these words and statistics mean anything to you? Or do you wish to continue to bathe in your pool of ignorance?

I know the anti-abortion crowd have a bunch of distorted or misinterpreted studies for the basis of their fake statistics, something that finds no support under rigorous scientific methodology. From the linked APA page:

The best scientific evidence published indicates that among adult [AFAB people] who have an unplanned pregnancy the relative risk of mental health problems is no greater if they have a single elective first-trimester abortion than if they deliver that pregnancy. The evidence regarding the relative mental health risks associated with multiple abortions is more equivocal. Positive associations observed between multiple abortions and poorer mental health may be linked to co-occurring risks that predispose [an AFAB person] to both multiple unwanted pregnancies and mental health problems.

Also I’m seriously going to need a source for abortion providers being mentally unstable, because I looked and couldn’t find anything of the sort. If true, though, could it have anything to do with the relentless harassment and threats they face from anti-abortion assholes, hmm?

Providing necessary and, in some parts of the world, stigmatized services so that people can safely exercise their reproductive choices can’t be anyone’s dream job? Maybe not to you, anon, but as with so much else you speak for yourself and not for everyone.

And honey, the only pool of ignorance I bathe in is made of the tears of know-nothing anti-abortionists like you. Ahhh.

[Image description: Oprah relaxes in a bubble bath with a glass of champagne]

[pro-abortion-rights]

to proudmom and nomorekids, which ever one said "[Crisis Pregnancy Centers] offer FREE prenatal care, including FREE ultrasounds". Okay. How many licensed doctors work at crisis pregnancy centers? Unless actual legitimate doctors are working at these places, they have absolutely no business providing anyone with prenatal care OR ultrasounds.

Yeah, the quality of care some of these centers offer is dubious at best. From the legislative hearings for a California law regulating CPCs:

Therese McCluskey, the perinatal services coordinator for the Alameda County Public Health Department, said many patients who transfer from crisis pregnancy centers to the clinics she oversees come without prenatal records, lab reports, or the pregnancy verification form that entitles them to pregnancy-related health care.

At a Senate hearing on the bill, one OB-GYN testified that crisis pregnancy centers can pose a risk even for [pregnant people] who wanted to be pregnant and planned to carry their pregnancies full term. Sally Greenwald, of the University of California—San Francisco, is an OB-GYN and recalled taking over the care of a pregnant diabetic woman from a pro-life center. The crisis pregnancy center had failed to treat the woman’s alarming blood sugar levels. “The fetus was exposed to lifelong risks, such as cardiac malformations, brain anomalies, and spine deformations,” says Greenwald. “We could have lowered the sugar in her blood and we could have had better outcomes both for mom and for baby.”

And look, I’m fine with volunteer organizations offering what care they can given limited staff, resources and funding. It’s perfectly okay, for instance, for untrained volunteers to hand out prenatal vitamins or baby clothes to people who want those things. A lot of people mean well and want to help out pregnant people and babies in need, and I think that’s great.

But any person who holds themself out as a healthcare provider should be honest and aboveboard about their qualifications and the level of care they can provide. They should also be proactive about referring the people in their care to actual professionals who can give them the help they need. It is absolutely despicable for people who are not medically trained to masquerade as medical professionals, deceiving pregnant people and actually hurting them and their wanted fetuses with substandard care.

[pro-abortion-rights]

"Those who stand for nothing fall for everything." Remember that when you feel like saying something that you consider to be fully justified. I.e., "facts", and "statistics" you pulled from some back alley liberal website.

Hey everyone, the Centers for Disease Control is some back-alley liberal website! We should totally take @no-more-kids​'s unsourced assertions as fact instead.

[pro-abortion-rights]

the www[.]prochoice[.]com link the that-is-what whoever they are left for you when they reblogged your response to them is not actually a pro-choice website (it sounds like it should be, but anti-choicers bought the domain to confuse people and make themselves look more legitimate)

Yup, it’s pretty transparent–and desperate.

[kiwianaroha]

OK, so now medical organizations defining pregnancy as beginning from implantation are apparently a part of some Machiavellian scheme to get a hold of embryos for stem cell research:

There has been a great deal of discussion about whether or not emergency contraception / the morning after pill is in fact abortifacient.  It should be noted that a war of words has been undertaken by those who have a vested interest in working with the embryo prior to implantation.  Many now state that conception actually begins at implantation rather than when the sperm fertilizes the egg (conception).  This is a play on words to allow for experiments to be undertaken on the nascent human life

(emphasis mine)

The quote keeps getting better though:

as well as to add acceptability to the use of abortifacient drugs such as the morning after pill, oral contraception, implants such as Jadelle and the "injection", Depo Provera

(emphasis also mine; source)

[thecynicalhippie-blog]

Literally just now.

"I value all lives and will do anything I can to save their lives!!" *person refuses to be pregnant, wants to commit suicide* .... "If they commit suicide, that's they're fault, I did what I could."