#riddler rant

[vinniethecannibal]

I’ve watched Gotham 3 times and I’ve noticed that after my last rewatch that I’m definitely more annoyed at how Edward is written, than when I first started watching the show. Specifically in s4&5, it starts to feel like he’s almost an accessory to Oswald‘s Arc in the show (s5 all he did was build a submarine for Oswald, s4 he had a whole rivalry with Oswald, and was even paired with Lee. Which makes no sense when you realize that he literally caused her miscarriage.) It’s really a shame because you see Cory Michael Smith act his ass off and the writing doesn’t add much or anything at all to it. S2 was definitely Edward’s best season in terms of character development, what happened in the later seasons I think showed that The Riddler does not suit a split personality story line long term—especially with how it was portrayed. If the writers wanted to use that, they could’ve gave Harvey more screen time and sorted something out with him. Galvan’s trial for example could’ve been where he had acid thrown at him.

In Edward’s case, it doesn’t work for him, the tragedy of The Riddler is that he started off wanting to be respected, then when he gets a taste of the infamous Riddler, he can’t go back, he can’t stop himself from spewing riddles/leaving riddles at his crimes, even when he has everything going for him (ex: Riddler’s reform in BTAS.) instead of having Isabella’s death be how he became the Riddler, the show could’ve done something where they made him miss the thrill of leaving riddles at crime scenes and having the police run around trying to solve them, like he did in s2. The Riddler would not “fall in love” with someone after a handful of hours with them. The show doesn’t even make it seem like he sees her as a second chance with Kristen and not as her own person, they could’ve but they didn’t. Isabella’s only use as a character is to separate him and Oswald, God forbid two men are in a relationship. How did they do so well in s2 and even s3 as well but just go off of the rails after that?

Edit: it sort of feels like what the Chucky show did to Tiffany where they made her a one trick pony, that’s what s4&5 remind me of.

[vinniethecannibal]

Rant about Lee x Edward

I've seen a lot of people talk about how "if Lee x Edward was gay you would eat it up" or "you're just mad they aren't Nygmobblepot" and I think this point is stupid as fuck. The problem with them isn't that they're straight or that they're not Nygmob, the problem is that it doesn't make any sense for Lee and they aren't mutually toxic. Edward caused Lee's miscarriage, he framed her fiancé for murder and got him sent to Blackgate, killer her friend (Kristen) and what did Lee do in return? NOTHING. stabbing him once barely covers it. Technically he didn't do those things to directly cause her harm but SHE WAS HEAVILY AFFECTED. it also makes no sense for Lee to think of him romantically or sexually given what he has done.

Do they have cool moments together? Yes absolutely, but when you remember the context of their characters at that point in the show it just gets icky. And the ship is just unfair to Lee, she didn't need a love interest, SHE WAS ALREADY INTERESTING ON HER OWN. I can definitely see the ship in s1 but that's IT.