#romani character

[nerdy-chocomallow]

Hey happy international roma day everyone especially ones who are Romani! While I’m not Romani myself, I do want to acknowledge the day and its significance.

With a bonus look of my oc, Hugo Galante who’s Rroma.

And if I get any terms wrong, please let me know.

And also, you want to, you can reblog any Romani characters you know as well.

[birdiebats]

First time finishing a drawing since October 😩 so gotta get back on that artistic grind ✍️

[romanispoiler]

I'm very happy that there's any romani representation in DC, but I wish there was specification on vistas.

THEREFORE, WELCOME TO MY UNNECESSARILY CONSPIRACY THEORY ON FIGURING OUT THE SPECIFIC VISTAS OF NIGHTWING AND ZATANNA

(NOTE: Romani does not mean Romanian. I'll be making some generalizations and I am not an expert on either of these characters nor on Romani diaspora! I'm just a roma comic fan)

Let's start with Zatanna. We know her father, Giovanni Zatara is Italian and Roma, as is his father, so first we need to look at Romani diaspora in Italy and surrounding areas.

The vistas that are found most commonly in Italy are the Sinti, the Ursari, the Kalderash, and the Xoraxane, so we've narrowed our options.

I'm eliminating Sinti as an option first of all, as the Sinti vista is typically from more German speaking areas, and for the sake of keeping to the more Latinized countries, we'll count that out. We'll also do the same for the Ursari, as they're typically settled in Romania.

Kalderash and Xoraxane are both seemingly the most likely, and this is where Zatanna's mother - Sindella Zatara - comes in. Whilst it is never stated if Sindella is Roma or Gorja, she lives in and around Turkey, where the Xoraxane vista is mostly spread. For this nod to her mother, I'll consider Zatanna a Xoraxane roma.

Now, time for Dick Grayson! My main source is the DC Fandom Wiki, which I know has its flaws, but it's what's most accessible to me. There's no explicit reference to John Grayson being Roma, but there is to Mary Grayson being Roma.

Mary had also met Raptor as a child in Paris, and they became friends - this implies she either knew French well enough to speak it, or he spoke English, but for the sake of headcanon, we'll say she spoke French.

And there is a French diaspora of Romani people! And of course, her making a friend in Paris isn't super viable as a basis for her vista, as Haly's Circus is a travelling one. But there is potential for her to be Manush Roma, but the options are very varied and wide. Unfortunately, like most American Roma, Dick's exact vista is pretty much untraceable.

These are all just headcanons, but I thought it'd be fun to do some research into this! Let me know if you have any information I don't!

[birdiebats]

Wanda 🥺✨💕❤️🥹❤️🥰💕

[dragynkeep]

For those who want to portray Romani culture in setting such as fantasy, do you have a guide of what to do and what not to do in portraying it, I think the reason why it happens so often is like Jewish culture and most cultures in general, there’s lack of an official guide to do so

just to preface, neither myself or luke are romani [we’re minceiri] & have made this clear before because while the two cultures are similar in the uk, they do have their differences.

however as a guide for “what to do”; i have tried to find some but obviously there will not be an “official guide” to do so because subsections of these cultures are ever changing, which is why we always say to talk to people of the culture, multiple people, & get their perspective. things about cultures like romani culture or jewish culture will a. never be the same across the board & b. will have pieces of it missing because parts of our cultures are closed to outsiders. it really isn’t much of an excuse to say there isn’t an official guide because it would probably do more harm than good anyways as different romani or jews would agree / disagree on different things, y’know?

here are some pieces of character writing advice, local advice & more that i’ve found as a place to start off from however;

https://zmlorenz.tumblr.com/post/625467256891195392/how-to-make-a-romani-character

https://kimberleyklee.tumblr.com/post/155354705944/romani-tropes-101-a-comprehensive-guide-to

https://earnestdesire.tumblr.com/post/658606480014065664/this-might-be-an-odd-question-but-even-if

https://romanirainbow.tumblr.com/post/612437240401068032/hi-im-writing-a-romani-character-and-i-was

https://writingwithcolor.tumblr.com/post/185936823487/half-romani-half-caucasian-bisexual-woman

[aliitvodeson]

Fancast

Talia Wagner (Nocturne) ~ Ayọ

Talia is the daughter of Scarlet Witch and Nightcrawler. She is a founding member of the Exiles Team. She often wears locs and micro-braids and both of her parents are Romani. Combing these facts with long standing fan views that Mystique is BIPOC, I focused my casting efforts in finding a Black Romani actresses.

German singer-actresses Ayọ is Nigeran and Sinti. Talia is only 17 in the comics, while Ayọ is 40; but the combination of representation and chance for quality musical scenes in is too much for me to pass up.

[aliitvodeson]

So the costume designer for Marvel did a live stream the other day, and revealed this original art for the WandaVison Halloween episode

which……

okay so it’s better than what I was picturing when Olsen said they originally planned a G*psy costumes (cough cough the fucking George Perez shit)

but still not great

and I’m glad they made the change to her being in 1960s costume like everyone else

(they should have cut the fortune teller line though… why did that make it to the final script? Fuck it’s even worse with the original costume plans)

[yokyopeli]

Memesa Grönlund Musta Perhonen/ Repaleiset Siivet/ Samettiyö (Kiba Lumberg)