What Zena & Poppy are hiding about their visit to Noehflake
Here is a Google document with the DMs between Poppy/Zena/Noehflake leading up to and after the December Trip Incident. Included are public Twitter threads (+more) that were posted in tandem with the DMs, providing as much context as I can to this situation.
I don't usually post trigger warnings, but I feel the need to here.
TRIGGER WARNING FOR GASLIGHTING, ABUSIVE INTERACTIONS AND MANIPULATION, PEOPLE IN DISTRESS, MENTIONS OF SUICIDE, MENTIONS OF RAPE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT
Poppyamory 1: what Z&P are hiding about their visit to Noehflake
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This is awful and it sucks I’m going to lose the only community I have, but I can stand by this behavior anymore.
I’ve been supportive of Poppy, Zena, and Saige because I thought they were being harassed and abused, and I do think some of what people are saying about them is overblown, but it’s clear they have mishandled the power of their community and platform.
I just feel like they’re getting worse and I wish they’d take a step back and reflect on their actions. Also the shit about asexuality is awful. I supported Poppy when the narrative was “my ex claimed she could not have assaulted me because she’s asexual” but now she’s trying to deny her ex’s sexuality and is posting their private flirtatious messages.
There seems to be more and more bad behavior documented here and some straight-up abusive stuff regarding Zena’s treatment of Poppy’s kid. I can see why they were so adamant that no one in their community look them up on tumblr.
I appreciate you sending me this. I hope you're feeling okay amidst all of this.
They're going to do these streams anyway. Poppy wants to destroy Noeh, not get closure for what she thinks Noeh did to her. The bell has rung, Poppy. You got fired because your behavior was ruining the image of your clinic. There's no rescinding to be done. You're fired. Full stop.
What's going to happen is Poppy is going to proceed to doxx Dormiyu's legal name again as she and Zena minimize what they did and bring up as much "dirt" from Dormiyu as they can. They're going to invoke its mental health, its relationships, its opinions. Look, you can bring up as much Twitter shit, drama, and fighting as you can. It does not erase the fact that Poppy Diabolique was bigoted towards Dormiyu's asexuality and purposefully exposed her breasts to it as it was obviously unconsenting. You did that, Poppy. You cannot obfuscate that any longer.
I have the DMs of you treated Noeh like absolute shit and gaslighting her into thinking her escape of the relationship was a betrayal to you. No "litmus test" or lie about loving you makes it rape. She told you how indecisive and broken she felt. You trampled over her feelings. And when her alter had to step in, you berated Noeh for "Max" "opening his stupid mouth." You won't bother reading the document on stream because it'd take too much effort for you to come up with lies and excuses for every abusive DM you made at Noeh. But go ahead, I encourage you to.
You have the audacity to make demands when you have tried to take so much dignity from these people and failed, burning yourself in the process. You're bleeding out followers, losing friendships left and right, having your own child speak up about what you did, and you lost your job because you refuse to reflect and take accountability. I can't mind control your friends into distancing themselves from you. Noeh can't mind control your boss and friend of 20 years into firing you. It is all you.
4a. Chronic health conditions & mental illness can be debilitating, but you are responsible for managing them. Boundary setting, using tools to account for your disabilities is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Neither my ex nor the kid chose to do those things.
I’ll pay for you, Poppy & Zena’s one way ticket to start that island arc right now. Fuck the whole lot of you.
Poppy and Zena yanked those tools away from Spawn. Not even tools, NECESSITIES. I'm surprised by Spawns decorum in the face of it. I would not be as strong of will. PZ and Co have no excuse. They have the tools. They refuse to use them.
