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[petermjs]

you and I are connected

Zendaya is Mary Jane Watson agenda SINCE DAY ONE

EXACTLY!! THAT'S OUR MARY JANE WATSON!!

[petermjs]

you 🤝 me 🤝 having the vision since day ONE. mcu mj watson you are so loved by US!

happy to know another person who’s seen the vision as long as me 🫂

we will be vindicated next july🫡

[petermjs]

Since there was a text limit I have to ask, the people (me) need to know: as an OG Zendaya is MJ truther, what was it like back in 2016/2017?

oh 2016/17 was a time😂 let me try & be somewhat concise so they don't text limit me lol

i think the best part about that time was there were really a lot of people who at the very least entertained the idea that she could be mj. at least i felt like there were, especially in comparison to now. and by mj i do mean mary jane. the staunch separation that is pushed upon them now didn't really exist too much then. i miss that. i also met some of my dearest friends then. we were all so hopeful of what zendaya mj could become. when the image of her potential red hair being covered up came out recently i texted them immediately and it felt like no time had really passed.

anyways personally i like took this URL of mine and made it into a sideblog to support zendaya mj. as it persists today, there was a lot of racist reactions to her being mj and that was upsetting to me. but i watched her on disney channel as a kid and was really excited about her casting. and i love petermj so i was just so excited to make edits and find other people who thought she'd be mj too. and that's kind of how i remember this version of petermjs coming to be.

after the tasm-induced wave of misogyny that mj as a character was facing in the spidey fandom i was so enthralled at even the chance that we'd return to petermj on the big screen. so it was fun to theorize. though at the same time not fun because i just wanted to theorize that she was mj and then there were so many people saying she couldn't be because she didn't have red hair, her personality isn't right, [insert thinly veiled racist excuse here], etc. so it was fun and depressing at the same time. i obviously found people who thought like-minded but eventually everyone moves on in their own directions. i still wish it was a more popular desire to see her get the name, the look, the backstory, etc. i think that's mostly what i find most bittersweet about it. there's such a rich history that could be adapted on screen and so many people just wrote it off and continue to do so. and i understand some of the reasoning but as someone who is a fan of both comic & movie mj i just can't accept that.

there were lots of ups & downs throughout filming & even when the movie actually released. iirc michelle came from the call sheet. jones was pure fanon after needing a generic j name to completely misuse how the initials MJ work and also some people tried linking her to gabe jones from captain america. messy times. there was the obviously the big leak that she was mary jane and tbh idr which came first but i always believed that michelle was just a code name for filming. it's a very common practice for movies/shows and after all mj was hidden & revealed in the comics. zendaya & the rest of the cast could laugh in my face all they wanted but i really just had a devout belief that she was mj. i really didn't care what marvel said. and in july 2017 i was proven right anyways. at the end she says "my friends call me mj." i remember messaging people on twitter who had seen the premiere and asking them who she was playing/credited as before i even saw it. i also have a comic petermj shirt that was sold then with the spider-man homecoming logo printed on it where the branding/tag/size is so to me that was a hint that she was mj. (i still wear it to every new movie too haha) also during press for hoco tom got asked so many times who his favorite love interest for peter was and he always said mj. you'd think he'd be picking liz as she was the female lead in hoco or even gwen given how popular she was coming off emma stone's version but nope. without hesitation he was saying mj.

ofc kevin feige & co had some bullshit comments afterwards about how she wasn't mj but he wanted you to think of mj when they have her say the my friends call me mj line. like give me a break you don't have someone named mj in spider-man and have it not be mj watson. it's kind of a whole other talking point, but the ways in which marvel thought they were being "different" than what came before were not very good lol.

to me that was the lowest point. the outlook kind of being well i won but at the same time i lost. lots of people just completely referred to her as michelle then (with jones for the j even though that was never even used in hoco or ffh) & acted like she was a completely different character. even though as I've said before, i think she's actually quite similar to comic mj but i digress. and i do believe that if more people had been willing to call her mary jane back then things could've been different since they obviously have no qualms taking fan theories & putting them in the movies but unfortunately the fandom just didn't move that way.

after that i really just clung to my own belief & observation about how they were not very serious or committed to her character name. she's only ever credited as mj in the ending credits & in merch mj is the only name advertised/printed. when ffh came out they only ever refer to her as mj in the dialogue. the fact that they never gave her a last name when in ffh you see her passport is even further proof they had no idea what they wanted to do. and a passport should've shown her full name (like everyone else's) not just michelle. like i said very unserious. on that very same passport the numbers at the bottom reference issue 42, comic mj's debut, so once again i'd like to ask the audience who exactly do you think she's meant to be? the answer is mary jane watson. ffh was also when i think zendaya really started committing to the fact that she was mj. she rocked her red hair, posted to her instagram with the caption "Face it Tiger...", etc. in ffh we also got the very tried & true mj storyline of her figuring out/knowing peter is spider-man. their first kiss had a license plate with 143, comic petermj's first kiss issue. the writing is on the wall. she is mj.

anyway it was fun to live thru it all but at the same time i feel quite lonely about it now. it must be more fun for someone who doesn't care as much about mj as i do!! i try my best to mind my business & keep to myself as i know my views on mj are definitely not the popular thought in the fandom. so in that sense it's hard to enjoy it fully at times since i want to enjoy it with other people. i know many people have just moved passed all of marvel's cowardly decisions but i think they'll always bother me to a certain extent. i will definitely never be as bothered as i was after hoco though. in my heart of hearts she's mary jane and i won't let anyone take that from me. if everyone can run off with a fanon name then i'll do the same with mary jane watson, her real name.

i was very happy for the addition of watson to her name in nwh. if they can add watson that late in the game then anything is possible. i will continue to hope that they retcon their dumb decisions. here's to manifesting that they give mcu mj the name, the look, and the storyline she deserves<3

[petermjs]

PeterMJ questions:

when did you start loving them!!!

what’s your dream adaptation of them look like?

of their other partners (both canon and in your mind), which do you love most!

are you reading current comics? If so, which ones/thoughts to share?

which version is /your/ PeterMJ?

as an OG Zendaya is MJ truther, what was it like back in 2016/2017?

trying to answer all of these in one ask is how i found out tumblr has a text limit and i talk/type too much haha. i can fit everything but the answer to your 2016/2017 question here. my ramble for that was too much for this post i guess 😅😂

started loving them after i saw the raimi movies as a child. i would say i got into comic them more during the tasm movie era. which is ironic since mj hate was probably at its peak then… though i suppose the lasting impact of that is still around today lol

dream adaptation is any adult petermj! i'm easy to please! this was something i loved about the playstation games!! i'm tired of them being super young/in high school. i guess the ultimate dream would be a tv show that has more 616 essence than any other adaptation because i love the second love trope. it's kind of sad all the movies have basically had them be first loves (personally think in the mcu liz is more of a crush & they're underdeveloped so in my mind it doesn't count). with a tv show you could really show everyone's development. and ooh if we got the CLICK moment after gwen died (or maybe just left idk it's 2025, i don't think she needs to die lol) i'd really love that. another specific comic i would love to see is kraven's last hunt. what's more romantic than peter literally pulling himself out of the grave for her!! iconic if you ask me!!

tbh when it comes to them i am not a multi-shipper. i don't mind reading/watching stories where they're with someone else but i have no attachments or big interest in their other relationships. in my head, i do love me a good wlw mj ship though haha

most consistently, i am currently reading the new USM. it has what i consider to be a rare pair in comics and that is great writing & great art. i really like the the take on peter not becoming spider-man until he's an adult. in an era where marvel does everything to keep him young, this was a nice new take! i've seen a lot of criticism for how mj isn't utilized enough, and i agree to a certain extent, but i have enjoyed what we have gotten of her. i loveeee adult petermj <3 i am also reading the continuation of the 90s animated show. i actually just started watching that and am on s2. i know vaguely what happens so it's kind of fun to be in it & read the continuation at the same time. just passed s2e3 and it was such a good mj focus episode!! very fun! i am also thinking about rereading parts of 616 & the og USM. USM was the first spider-man comic i bought & ever finished all the way through so i have a huge soft spot for them. i think it's funny how much influence it has on most petermj adaptations. i also love rereading shorter comics like parallel lives, spider-man blue, and spider-man loves mary jane!

hm my version of petermj? I'm sure people will think this is a copout, but i genuinely love all of them!! i feel as giddy as ever whenever i watch or read them fall in love in any story!! i think with any adaptation there are things i like & dislike so nothing really ranks over the other. 616 is always supreme but they're the original & we've never gotten a full adaptation of that so they can't really be compared to their contemporaries. i guess as of now i gravitate more towards the games & movies since current 616 editorial is god awful right now and has been for decades, except for the brief reprieve of the 2018 run & the au comics they put out like renew your vows. raimi petermj is my childhood so i will always look at them fondly. and then i have a huge attachment to mcu petermj because i've gotten to follow them along from the beginning. i truly have been locked in since zendaya's casting. it's been a very looooong ride.

[shizuoi]

CRIMINAL MINDS?????

Girl help pls recommend your fav fics you’ve written (in this and any fandom) clearly I’ve been stuck in the bog too long and missed this

CRIMINAL MINDS!!!!!!!!!

ive only written one fic for cm (truth shall deliver you; i'm in my 2nd person pov delulu era rn) but i have another cm fic in the works that's draining my lifeforce every day LOL

(also idk if you ever watched the acolyte but i did write a fic for that, pspspsps)

[loislaane]

AS IF IM NOT CORRECT IN BEING SUSPICIOUS ABOUT COMIC BLOGS!!! It’s the worst person you know and they have the best url <3

I thought I accidentally followed a random in my Superman reblog binge !

never change your banner <3

i.. cannot argue w that actually 😭

listen i love consistency <3

[petermjs]

hello PeterMJ warrior how are we feeling about BND?

Personally, I’m iffy as it’s not… a great run but since I’m overall pleased with how they adapted OMD, I’m delusionally optimistic.

Still hoping for a name change and/or stage name Mary Jane Watson 🙂‍↕️

helloooooo!!!

i am optimistically excited & anxious at the same time. the name is... well certainly a choice. if nwh is their omd adaptation then i don't think their potential bnd adaptation needed to be titled the same haha but we'll see how it goes. i think the name also expresses well how this is peter's fresh start, as tom said, so i can see why they chose it.

also words can't express how excited i am for peter to be out of high school skdfjlsdf so i'm excited to see the route this trilogy(?) will take.

i, too, am still hoping for a name change for mj!! wanted it since the beginning and will want one until the end. i think the stage name idea would work beautifully, so i have my fingers crossed. i have a big wish that i want them to do with mj in this movie but i doubt it's on their radar lol so i will manage my expectations accordingly.

[gunsandspaceships]

About awkward situations

When people throw around all sorts of offensive words without understanding what they mean or who is the person they are insulting, they can get into an awkward situation.

As stated in my blog's description, I'm a female to male transgender and gay. This "highly intelligent" person claims that I am a "sexist", "misogynist", "transphobe", "homophobe" and "racist".

I already asked you about “racism”, guys. Now it's time to ask, was I ever any of these? I wonder if I have an evil alter ego that wakes up at night and writes something with this "any number of horrid things", lol