#sentichloe

[lullaboid]

listen, the haha adrien is a sentimonster theories were fun and it was a wild time post introduction of the peacock miraculous and its powers, but are we serious with everyone being a sentihuman?

[flightfoot]

This is about the idea of Chloe being a sentimonster. What would you think if Audrey loses Chloe’s amok and Zoe finds it? Zoe wishes that Chloe was kinder, not knowing the amok can control Chloe. Chloe starts acting kinder while not knowing why, and Zoe tells her it’s because she feels guilty. Zoe figures things out and gives the amok to Chloe, but Chloe's confused regarding why she would do that since Zoe seemed happy when Chloe was acting kinder. But later, Chloe decides to be kind for real. What could the show do to do justice to the idea?

Huh, that could be interesting. Glad that Zoe's giving the amok over to Chloe in this scenario, even if it makes her "nicer", it's not right for Chloe to be brainwashed.

I think the main sticking point would be WHY Chloe would decide to be nicer. It'd have to be clear that it's not due to any residual programming, but instead due to Chloe's own decision. Like, is it because she figured out that being kind actually felt good, or that she liked how people reacted to her when she was nice to them, stuff like that? Basically, it'd need to show WHY Chloe wants to be kind now, why she'd make that choice when she hasn't before.

[camelots-rose]

Okay so it took a bit of thinking but here's how Senti Chloé will likely go down in my crossover.

Chloé leaves Pairs a few weeks after Miracle Queen, originally this would have been the end of Chloé's involvement with Pairs till her return and her heroic sacrifice 5ish years later.

However, thanks to Optigami, Gabriel and Nathalie became aware of Chloé running away, so a few hours after she left, he briefly gives Tomoe the peacock to create Senti Chloé

So while the real Chloé gose off on her own misadventures(aka taking part in the Great Holy Grail, making a deal with Alaya, ect) Senti Chloé takes on S4-5 Chloé's role just space out over multiple years.

No one in Paris notices the Chloé living among them is a fake till real Chloé's return during the final battle against Shadow moth.

Some stuff might change, definitely will likely expand upon it but for now at least here's the lore I'm planning on giving her, it'll probably take me a bit but I'll create a character sheet for her, I just need to figure out which class would best fit her.

[sunfoxfic]

The thing that I really like about the "all rich kids are sentis" theory is that it very much so opens the doors to the possibility of having a group home for them once their parents are all arrested. Which is like, tragic no doubt, but also the idea of Adrien, Félix, Chloé, Kagami, Zoé, and (possibly?) XY all living in a house together is inherently funny. The shenanigans. The possibilities.

[erisluna35]

If Chloe is a sentimonster, would that mean that people would owe her help? No... but yes since there a new layer here where Chloe's nastiness might be more directly Audrey's fault. At the very least, you could argue that it makes for a better case regarding why people would "owe" Chloe help.

"Owe" is not the right word here. More like they'd be more sympathetic to her and may be more willing to set aside the hurt Chloe caused if they learn Audrey is more involved in it. I'm just saying a SentiChloe would NEED more help than the standard Chloe because of the whole new issue of being directly controlled. Again, it raises the question how much of Chloe's cruelty was all her own rather than Audrey, this needs to be clarified. But what Chloe has done shouldn't be swept under the rug either. The class would still be valid if they don't want to help her.

Maybe just don't treat the class as a monolithic hive mind. You can have, say, Rose be willing to help her but Nathaniel, for instance, would rather keep his distance. There is a nuance to this situation and both sides should be acknowledged.

[flightfoot]

I'm going to use this Senti Chloe discussion to tell you about my headcannon. That Audrey had Chloe made by Emilie after she found out she was pregnant with Zoe, so that Andre would have to stay with her after the cheating came to light. And that Chloe's attitude partially stems from the anger Emilie felt at Audrey for hurting her friend.

...Huh. Interesting take, there. I feel like "righteous anger at Audrey" would probably have a different result though? And I'm still not sure how Emilie would have been able to create multiple sentimonsters.

Gotta wonder how Audrey would have coerced her into creating Chloe for such a nefarious purpose. Threatened to ruin Gabriel's career if she didn't, I guess? Seems par for the course.

[flightfoot]

If Chloe is a sentimonster, should the show make it ambiguous regarding how much of Chloe’s nastiness was of her “own doing”, or should the show make it clear that pretty much all of Chloe’s nastiness was because of the amok?

...I mean, I'd assume almost all of the nastiness would be Chloe's own doing. Mayor Bourgeois doesn't seem like he'd order Chloe to bully all the other kids, and Audrey wasn't even on the same continent as Chloe for most of her school years, she didn't get introduced until late Season 2.

[camelots-rose]

Senti Chloé

Class: Faker

Possible classes: Archer, Assassin, Rider

Parameter

Strength: C

Endurance: D

Agility: C

Mana: A

luck: E+

NP: B

Class skills

Independent Action (A): Design to serve as a long term replacement Chloe in Gabriel's schemes, it's possible for Faker to last in the world for a week without a Master.

Camouflage (B): At Rank B, it is possible to fool an opponent by appearing as another Class or with different parameters.

Personal Skills

Monstrous strength (C): As a Sentimonster, Faker naturally possesses this skill, Temporarily grants a rank-up to her strength parameter for a limited time.

False Queen's Deception (B): As a result of deceiving all of Paris and herself into thinking she’s the original Chloé, Faker can imitate Rider!Chloé's Noble Phantasms and Skills as her body double. Copied Skills are dropped by one rank, but it is possible to transfigure them.

Disengage (C): The ability to withdraw from the battlefield in the midst of combat.

Noble Phantasm

Venom: "Gift To The False Queen": C (Anti-Unit): As a result of False Queen's Deception, Faker is capable of manifesting Venom, however do to being a replica of the power of the bee miraculous, the effects of this Noble Phantasm is downgraded by a single rank.