#show negative

[specialagentartemis]

having watched the trailer… I like everything about Murderbot except Murderbot

[lillysilverus]

Was there a more ridiculous choice in season 13 than having Dean let Michael in? In Supernatural, the land of missed opportunities, how much more satisfying would it have been to have Sam and Jack defeat Lucifer together while Dean and Castiel destroyed Michael? Instead we got the most embarrassing fight in the whole show and a waste of a next season including Maggie, the most perplexing, annoying addition to the show ever. I know the show was on it's last lap but seriously, it's like they all ran out the door and left the monkeys in charge.

[bladeweave]

Supernatural is bad for various reasons, but I feel like the Big One is because it doesn't have a cohesive vision. After season 5, every storyline was cobbled together to keep the show going. The main motivation for making the show hasn't been to tell a story, it's been to sell more ad space and merchandise for The CW.

There have been so many different writers and show runners who all have different interpretations of the characters and the story. Is it really any surprise that there's no unifying theme to tie the whole show together?

[yorugolden]

This whole conversation was done only between Cas and Dean. Don't say !@#/Sam doesn't care about Cas!@#// when Sam even doesn't get to talk to his friend. Cuz surely Cas doesn't care about Sam too that he even didn't check on Sam or say Sam that he's gonna moving on. I know that Cas is hurt but I hope that they don't drag Sam into this.

[morganaspendragonss]

Ummmm that sneak peek??? Do I really have to see yet another Sam centric relationship be written out of existence so that Dean can get even more screen time and man pain???? Fuck this show

[missjackil]

Things SPN Does that Bothers Me

Now you know 95% of the time, im show positive, I love the show, like i love Sam and Dean, and thats flaws and all. Just like the boys can piss me off sometimes, well... the show can too, and these are some regular things they (TPTB) do, that have either pissed me off, or make me very uncomfortable.  I dont like every storyline, nor every character, but if it/they serve a reasonable purpose, I dont dwell on it, and accept the role or what the story developed into as a part of the big picture. Some things however are pointless, and just annoying.  Dean’s eating habits for starters. I can accept, he eats a lot, and eats fast, even that he’s sometimes a messy eater, this is a continuous part of his character. However, the food falling out of his mouth, or getting on his face is ridiculous! I know its more of a comic relief thing, but its gross and it makes Dean look like an idiot. in Tall Tales, its established that Dean eats messy when hes eating chili fries with his fingers, and getting it n Sam’s bed. in Folsem Prison Blues, we see him shoveling down the prison food. We have donut all over his face in The Purge, and these were kinda funny, but the speghetti hanging out of his mouth in Halt and Catch Fire, spitting the chinese food on the floor in Love Hurts, and the pie all over his face in Mama Mia, was just unnecessary. if Dean has enough manners to not eat like a feral dog 99% of the time, I think he can do that ALL of the time. Now, the one time Sam has food falling out of his mouth in Dont You Forget About Me, was funny, and it made the statement that hes been dying for a good roasted chicken, but, if he does it again, its no longer funny, its just gross and makes him look like an idiot. So, sure, let Dean eat a lot, and ;et him eat fast, but dont make him gross anymore.  Sam’s hair. That man has a gorgeous head of hair!! KEEP IT THAT WAY!! IT even looks great messy! Why do TPTB have it looking dorky half the time? This started early even before it was long, and he still had bangs, and dont get me started on S10!! S6 7 and 8, they had his hair consistantly good, with maybe one or two bad hair days, but then S9 came around, i guess they thought he was too gorgeous?? or not nerdy enough?? I know between takes, if his hair got messed up, some lucky af woman from hair and make up comes and fixes it, but is she directed to not make it look good? “Here Jane, over brush it and push it back to accentuate his 5head! He looks too hot right now” Now maybe in s10 (ok yes Im going there) the haircut at the start of the season was unsuccesful, it happens, but why keep it that way? His hair grows fast! We’ve seen this! he can grow it out of a bad cut in 2 episodes! AND NO FREAKIN FLAT IRONS!! GOD! The Brothers lying to each other. Ill excuse all the lies theyve told that served a purpose, like to bring on new drama,  or had a valid (maybe just to that specific brother) reason behind it, but lies that serve no purpose at all suck. Dean didnt need to lie about texting/calling mom and waiting till Sam went to sleep too listen to messages. Sam wasnt telling him not to contact her,, and nothing ever became of it. It was just childish and annoyng. Same with Sam not telling Dean that he decided to work for the Brits and wanted him to do it too. By this time Sam would know Dean would hear him out, even if he growled first, and they work with people they dont trust, BAD people all the time, if it serves a good purpose. Dean basically said this himself. they didnt even have a pivitol fight over the lie, so it was just stupid. 

Ive always been very uncomfortable with the boys relationship with Crowley after S10. especially Dean’s. im not anti Crowley mind you, but when they’ve been chummy with him after he killed the people they saved back in S8, and made Sam watch his friend Sarah die, and let us not forget him nearly killing Jodi, who they are like bff with, also consider that he’s bragged about killing babies, and helping out pervy priests, and made Dick Roman muffins from baby uvulas. It was very uncomfortable for me to hear Dean pray for God to bring Crowley back after he died. Sam maintained at least some level of hate towards Crowley throughout his time, but Dean was friend, then trying to kill him, then friend, then trying to kill him... and it was just weird. Its been a big fear of mind at some point a Winchester is going to be sitting and having a beer with Lucifer, just chatting. 

Teach Sam how to get out of a strangle hold!!! Im not even bothered that he GETS strangled, but self defense 101 teaches you how to get out of that hold before it teaches you anything else. Theres no reason on Chucks green Earth as to why Sam is always punching said stranglers arm instead of doing the ‘up and out” move!! If he needs to be taken down for whatever reason, there are other way of doing so, stop making him look like he cant fight! I think we all hate when they go off canon, but its never really bothered me if it was something small that might have just gone unnoticed but theyve had some doozies that made me mad at the whole staff. You cant tell me that Lucifer suddenly being the older brother, or the Obama, to Rooney to Trump POTUS change got past everyone, including J2? That makes them all look stupid or that they dont think we’re smart enough to notice.  So these are just some things that rub me the wrong way because theres just no good reason for them. Most screw ups i can overlook if something good came from it, but these things didnt. so STAAAAHHHHHPPPP!!!!!! That will be all...

[lillysilverus]

Remember in season 4 of SPN when Sam accidentally let Lucifer out of the cage and not only was he completely vilified for it by his own family and other characters on the show, he threw himself into hell for what he thought was eternity to fix it even though he wasn’t the only one who caused it?

Remember in season 11 of SPN when Castiel purposefully let Lucifer out of the cage because he felt bad about himself and instead of being angry, Dean didn’t believe it and nobody cared how Sam felt and all they did was try to get him back even though instead of being tortured, he was watching TV in the bunker while they tried to fix his mess?

Yeah.........me neither.  

[lillysilverus]

The end of season 13 did Jensen so dirty.  Not only did we get the most ridiculous angel fight in the history of the show (although the fight between Michael and Lucifer in season 15 was a very very close second), the music when Dean appears as Michael in the church with the wings was like something out of an Avengers movie.  What happened to ominous and powerful?  Instead, we got a cartoon.