#snape stan

[hootietpants]

"You guys are overreacting! What James did wasn't SA!"

Like James Potter was the king of consent. The guy couldn't take a "no" for an answer. He literally THREATENED Lily to go out with him. But sure Severus was the creep.

[the-most-faithful]

The Marauders Stan are trying to villainize Bertram now too

A few weeks ago, I posted THIS video on TikTok about Bertram and what he suffered at the hands of the Marauders. Some people, understandably, asked who Bertram was, if he was canon, and that's fine. I mean, he's only mentioned once in the entire saga, but it always amazes me how fans choose which background characters to highlight and which to completely ignore. And well, Bertram is one of them, and the reason is quite obvious. The Marauders, in their attempt to distort history and portray themselves as champions of justice, must eliminate every trace of their bullying and, at most, keep only Snape as the victim, because, as we've said several times, he's not the perfect victim. With him, they can continue the narrative that "it was just a rivalry." Even though we've debunked this lie several times, it's still used, but what amazed me instead is the attempt to blame Bertram as well, to the point of downplaying what he suffered in such an ignoble manner. Well, here are the comments:

THIS is canon, one of the few truly canonical things we have about the Marauders, but for this "fan" this is too much. We're not trying to find fault, we don't need to invent anything, we're just reporting canon facts, and if this makes the Marauders look bad, maybe you should start asking yourself a few questions.

Furthermore, when someone approaches these topics, they try to set themselves up as moral judges by bringing their own experiences into play, which is completely inappropriate. What does being bullied prove? That your opinion is worth more? That I can't blame you because you've been bullied? It doesn't work that way, especially if, despite your own experiences, you end up justifying bullies. But let's move on, because things get worse.

This is seriously so ridiculous that I initially thought it was a troll. As a victim of bullying, you did your research. Are you sensitive about Snape enough to distort the story to make him look like a RIVAL? In what twisted world is 2 vs. 1 a rivalry? Is there really anyone who would call Neville a rival to Draco, Crabbe, and Goyle? But seriously, beyond these endlessly rehashed points, do you realize that you immediately moved on to talking about Snape? In a video entirely dedicated to Bertram where I NEVER mentioned Snape, she talks only about him and ignores Bertram, just like the fandom has done for years. This is because, as I mentioned before, that's all these people are focusing on.

As for Bertram, the problem is that we know nothing about him beyond the swollen head spell. And if you watch videos about him in general, you'll see that Snape fans, especially, go out of their way to make him look like a "victim." They specifically paint him as a Gryffindor/Ravenclaw, they ship him with Snape (💀), but I never see him in Slytherin. Why? Because they don't want to admit that he might also be an aspiring Death Eater.

Oh, there we go, after several comments, she remembers to mention Bertram, but look at the way she does it. "As for Bertram, the problem is that we know nothing about him beyond the swollen head spell." Well, you know, he's mentioned ONCE in seven books, and the only thing we know about him and she wants to ignore or distort even that. -.-

"And if you watch videos about him in general, you'll see that Snape fans, especially, go out of their way to make him look like a "victim.""

Girl, no, we're not making him look like a victim, he's A VICTIM. How can someone who says they were bullied invalidate a victim of bullying in a story? This is problematic on so many levels.

"They specifically paint him as a Gryffindor/Ravenclaw, they ship him with Snape (💀), but I never see him in Slytherin. Why? Because they don't want to admit that he might also be an aspiring Death Eater."

Oh, and here we go, these are really interesting and new points (at least for me). First, she brings up a ship, which is truly super rare. There are literally very few people who ship Bertram/Snape, especially because for years people have ignored Bertram as a character. But then, what's the ship supposed to mean? What does it have to do with the theme? Are you telling me that if a character is shipped with another character, he can't be bullied? Or that being shipped with a gray character automatically makes him evil? I really don't know, this point is thrown in without any logical sense. And then there they are, I didn't see this coming.

"But I never see him in Slytherin. Why? Because they don't want to admit that he might also be an aspiring Death Eater."

Aside from the fact that I've seen Bertram placed in Slytherin and sometimes even depicted as a girl, this attempt to pass him off as an aspiring DE without any evidence is so absurd and clearly the product of all the MS propaganda that wants to see the Marauders as vigilantes who only target aspiring DEs, and this is totally false, denied by canon. This is a clear attempt to blame the victim.

Someone actually asks her the meaning of her comments:

And she replies like this:

See how she's trying to twist the issue? First, she uses Sirius's words to describe Snape. How can you trust the words of a BULLY talking about his victim? How can you take his words at face value and ignore all the other canonical facts? So, with the same approach, can we only trust Snape's words about James, and Sirius? And yet, in that case, you're biased and need to look at the facts. This is pure hypocrisy. In addition to, once again, putting forward completely fanon ideas. James doesn't target those who actively practice dark magic; he targets those who can simply because they exist in numerical superiority, with a clear imbalance of power. THIS IS CANON.

Look how she continues to mix FANON ideas with canon, deliberately creating confusion. First deciding to only consider things that are clearly shown, then, when it suits her, she brings in her own non-canon ideas to reverse the situation. Look at the absurdity, she even goes so far as to say that JAMES IS THE VICTIM? Did the neurons really flip a switch here? This is because Snape knew the dark arts HE NEVER USED ON THE MARAUDERS, and he had his own gang, which, however, in canon, NEVER DEFENDED HIM against the Marauders. Seriously, let's put two and two together: if James and Sirius were truly afraid of him because of his skill in the dark arts and his large gang, they would never have targeted him.

This is really getting absurd (leaving aside the insult, which I disagree with), this Vanessa continues to push her FANON idea that James is a vigilante and refuses to consider all the canonical facts. Despite the "context matters" sentiment, she doesn't look at the context; she's guided only by her bias. And this is a clear example of how the MS think. I remind you once again that all these comments (I didn't include them all) are focusing on Snape, while poor Bertram is still being ignored even though my video is TOTALLY dedicated to him. And that's why I wrote:

You mentioned Mary's case earlier, so I linked to that to highlight the double standard: what Mulciber TRIED to do to Mary is portrayed as something horrible, implying SA when in reality there is none of this, and if you dare say so you are insulted, while what Bertram suffered, which is CANONICALLY an ILLEGAL spell, is belittled and made to look like a trivial prank, something nice, or even something deserved. All of this is shameful.

This all continues to get more and more ridiculous, leaving aside the veiled insult, which demonstrates the lack of argumentation. Do you realize the usual thought process that leads to these fallacious arguments? First, they constantly ignore the theme, they focus it on another character, trying to blame them, then they reverse the bully/victim roles, they justify the bullies (James and Sirius), they invent facts, they remove the context of the actions, and this is important. Allow me a small digression:

Severus in TWM is being attacked, and the fact that he creates a cut on James's face is a desperate attempt to defend himself from two attackers who are attacking him, who have lifted him up, thrown him to the ground repeatedly, and suffocated him with soap while exposing his underwear. Pointing the finger at the fact that Snape created a cut on James's cheek would be like accusing a woman being attacked by two men of being excessively violent because she scratched one of her attackers in an attempt to escape. This attitude is not only disgusting but also dangerous. But let's get back to the sequence. After this, we go back to downplaying The Prank (which is, by Sirius's admission, an active attempt to hurt Snape), we downplay ALL the actions of the Marauders by trying to reverse the consequences, so if a victim tries to defend himself, he becomes the executioner, we reverse cause and effect, and then we go back to poor Bertram, who is still there in a corner hoping to be considered, and we say: "About Bertram, as I said before, there is zero canon evidence that says he was an 'innocent victim' (and James' targets were obvious, people like Snape/Mulciber/Avery)."

Bertram is no longer a victim to her; in fact, in her eyes, he was never an innocent victim. This term is VERY problematic. I've talked about it several times, and still no one has ever explained to me what "innocent victim" means. Someone who simply suffers? Someone who doesn't try to defend himself? This attitude is truly disgusting. Besides continuing to push a FALSE narrative that James only targets a certain type of person, look at how absurdly she lies: "James' targets were obvious, people like Snape/Mulciber/Avery." Girl, where? WHEN??? If you mean only what we see clearly matters, name me ONE TIME where James targets Mulciber or Avery? XD She herself knows she's clearly lying. James and Sirius only target those beneath them in 2-on-1 power dynamics. This is canon.

Notice how she is frightened by the comparison between Mary and Bertram, this is the moment when everything starts to fall apart:

Aside from the obvious lie, as you mentioned Mary in previous comments, notice how she clearly misses the point and uses all the super-fanon FANON information. She denies that Bertram was hit by an ILLEGAL spell and is clearly projecting onto others; she's trying to rewrite the canon, distorting it so that Mulciber's ATTEMPT is worse than what Bertram actively suffered. Look at how absurdly she makes things up:

Bertram got a swollen head from a hex,fixed by Madam Pomfrey.If it was "that" dark magic(by your definition of dark arts,half of the hogwarts students we saw in books would be in azkaban instead of basic detentions),james wouldn't be in Hogwarts anyways he would be in prison

This is a crazy assumption. James and Sirius were punished for this, and the punishment clearly states that they used an illegal spell. Are you telling me you don't believe it, because otherwise they would have been sent to Azkaban? Are we really talking about a school where the staff lets a werewolf study and later teach, where they keep a Cerberus locked behind a door that opens with a simple Alohomora, and you think the staff is too concerned if students use ILLEGAL spells? In the space of two years, the Marauders almost killed Snape (The Prank), they SA (TWM), they used an ILLEGAL spell on Bertram, and you still think that's too much? That's not my idea of ​​magic, it's literally the canon that tells us so. Plus, really, notice how desperately he invents things that never happened:

Mulciber literally used dark charms to cause LASTING harm on a muggleborn/halfblood.

WHERE? WHEN?? Mulciber never did this in the "LASTING HARM" canon????? But when? Maybe you're confusing this with some FF because the only thing we know is that he TRIED to do something bad to Mary, period. He didn't actually succeed, she didn't suffer any permanent damage, so this absurd argument is false.

And after my last comment, she never responded. My optimistic side hopes she's understood, but in reality, I know she hasn't, that she simply has no more leverage, and as usual, the MSs flee as soon as their lies are debunked. As usual, these posts of mine aren't meant to attack any individual person, but to highlight the increasingly distorted mechanisms being carried out in fandom. Here, it's no longer about personal views or values ​​based on one's own experience, but about clearly problematic attitudes that highlight the hypocrisy of certain thoughts and demonstrate why, even in the real world, certain dynamics are not only perpetuated but also justified, especially by those who claim to have experienced them as victims. And, quite simply, in this entire exchange, once again the ignored character has been forgotten, relegated to a corner, belittled, attacked, condoned, and left in the shadows.

[impossible3girl]

Being a Severus Snape fan and a Remadora shipper is really the worst possible combination. I literally chose (well, actually, I didn't choose they chose me) the two things that the worst subgroup of the HP fandom hates the most.

The subgroup being the Marauders fandom (if this wasn't already clear) full of 1. horrible people who 2. don't respect any fandom etiquette. One of those things is already bad but combining both is just, I can't even put it into words.

They have horrible morals which leads them to having the worst possible takes (like threatening to kill a FICTIONAL animal is horrible but sending death threads to REAL humans because of a FICTIONAL character they like is a fun and heroic act). And if that wasn't already enough they think every post is made for them/should be made for them so now they comment those thoughts into communities that are clearly not made for them/their thoughts. 

They say they are the most open-minded and tolerant community creating a safe space but what they actually do is destroy the safe space of everyone who thinks just a bit different from them.

And let me tell you I used to be a Marauders fan and a Wolfstar shipper (even though I was always a Snape and Remadora fan first and foremost). And this is not supposed to be an anti Marauders/Wolfstar post (I do have my problems with both of them, but I couldn't care less what other people like/ship. I mean who am I to police other peoples love for FICTIONAL characters/ships?). This is only anti the Fandom that I used to be a part of but that was so toxic that I had to leave. Not only that but that also lead to me starting to question/dislike their favourite characters/ships. So all their "fandom/thoughts policing" ultimately lead to one of their own not only leaving them but also hating them. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who went through that. Especially in the last few years (since covid) they have become more and more toxic even starting to hate their own (like Jily shippers).

I have wanted to write this post for years, but I never got around to it. Until now where I am barely active in the HP fandom (on any social media platform) any more because the Marauders Fandom has infiltrated so many of those safe spaces that it's destroying my enjoyment of them. And I just needed to say this, so I finally can move on.

I don't know yet what I mean by moving on. I'm definitely not going to move on from being a Snape/Remadora fan but for now I simply can't be a (regularly) active member of those spaces or the Harry Potter Fandom in general. But I'm definitely moving on from the Marauders Fandom.  Both in the sense of finally "getting over" (for lack of a better word) that I once was a member of it and stopping all interactions with them (if possible).

It's also not just the fact that the hate from the Marauders Fandom is annoying/hurtful but that this has filled me myself with so much hate for them to a point where I just couldn't take it any longer. I never went as low as they do, like harassing threatening people in their safe spaces, but I did say some things that just are so not me. Granted they were not unprovoked (usually as a response to someone commenting some shit on my own posts) but I still didn't recognize myself any more. And while I do still think they deserved it I just can't do this any longer (at least right now). I have enough other things to worry about, and my mental health is already not the best but I found another Fandom that is currently helping me to heal at least somewhat (the res t of the healing I sadly have to do in the “real world”).

[oldhpfan]

MFan: Nothing in the Marauders fandom is canon!!!!! We can do whatever we want!!! Me: Okay, then I'll make James and Sirius terrible bullies who choke, beat, use illegal spells, and SA their classmates. MFan: HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!?!

Spoiler, these are the real CANON MARAUDERS

[the-half-blood-princessss]

𝐇𝐨𝐰 𝐈 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐚𝐭 𝐩𝐞𝐨𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐚 𝐟𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐰 𝐒𝐧𝐚𝐩𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧:

[its-just-me-chey]

Let’s talk about the HBO Max Harry Potter series for a second… 🐍✨

I’m just gonna hop on this topic right quick and share some thoughts. As we all know, Paapa Essiedu has been cast to play the enigmatic Severus Snape.

Now, I’m not gonna lie: when the news first came out, I was peeved. Snape is a character so incredibly dear to my heart, and Alan Rickman’s portrayal will forever be my absolute favorite. It’s hard to imagine anyone else in those robes.

But I’ve taken the time to reflect. I’m opening myself up to this new take because Paapa Essiedu is a genuinely good actor and he deserves a chance. I’ve seen a sliver of his work, and the man has talent. However, as a long-time fan, I do have one minor thing...

The costume design stinks. 💀

Is that... leather?

In the year of our Lord 2026, we’re putting the Potions Master in leather?

What is he doing, moonlighting as a background dancer in a Matrix reboot?

Is he joining a biker gang?

Did the costume department mistake Hogwarts for a 2005 Hot Topic?

I hate that outfit with a burning passion, but let’s be clear: that is on the costume designer, not the actor. Don't blame Paapa for the fact that the wardrobe department apparently thinks "Dark Arts" means "Early 2000s Goth Club." Unless he’s brewing Polyjuice Potion at a rave, that leather has no business being in the dungeons. It’s a choice. A wrong choice. A "who let this pass the mood board" choice.

The most important point:

Apparently, Paapa has been receiving death threats just for doing his job. As a Snape fan, I can drag that jacket to the Forbidden Forest and back all day, but as an Alan Rickman fan, I am disgusted.

If Alan Rickman were still with us, he would be absolutely ASHAMED of anyone sending threats to a fellow actor. You cannot claim to love the "original" while acting like a total monster to the new guy. It's embarrassing.

Give the man a chance. Critique the leather—the fashion police are currently obtaining a warrant—but leave the actor alone. He’s just a man with a wand, a dream, and a REALLY unfortunate jacket.

[monty-reborn]

Professor Octavius ​​Muldoon's First DADA Lesson

Professor Muldoon took out the register and began calling the roll, lingering on each student as they answered. Severus tried to sit up straighter in his chair. He hated being next to Caradoc. Even seated, he felt so small beside him. «My name is Octavius Muldoon,» he said when the last student had answered. «It’s Irish, so I do not want to hear the letters mangled the way you English usually do. Is that clear?» «Another bloody Irishman» Evan muttered behind Severus. There was a long moment of silence before the teacher continued.

«I received a letter from Professor Hobday regarding this class. It seems you have a fairly solid grounding in basic duelling.» A general murmur of agreement followed. «But you are behind, very far behind, when it comes to curses,» the professor went on. «So I am here to explain to you, in detail, what witches and wizards can do to one another.» His words dropped to little more than a whisper, but none of them missed a syllable. Like Professor McGonagall, Muldoon seemed to have the gift of maintaining silence without any effort. Severus watched him with admiration as he stood and walked around the desk. «I do not want to see random wand-waving, nor badly pronounced incantations. You are in sixth year. You will learn non-verbal spells, but before that I do not want to see you wasting time without commitment.» He paced the classroom again with a stern gaze. «If you are not willing to give one hundred per cent, you may leave my class without any trouble.» He pointed at the door with a long, pale finger. «But once you cross that threshold, you will not return. Is that clear?» Many students nodded tensely. «Very well,» he clapped his hands, making a few in the front row jump. «Let’s see whether you are a bunch of wooden heads, or whether some of you have talent.» Severus leaned forward so far he could feel the edge of his chair. He wanted to prove he was not a wooden head. «I believe that, given the times we are living in, it is right to be honest. What I will teach you will not only help you pass your new exams, but also, above all, help you defend yourselves from what is out there in the wider world. Over the last few months you will certainly have read about the increasingly frequent extremist attacks.» Severus saw many classmates nod, Lily first among them. «The magical community is under assault from extremists who wish to use violence and Dark Magic to destroy our way of life. You will certainly have heard of last year’s tragedy during a Muggle activist attack.» Lily exchanged a look with her friend Mary, pulling a face. But Severus nodded vigorously. He had told her that the Muggle activists were going too far, but she had not wanted to listen. She had even got angry. But now that a professor was saying it too, surely…

«Yes, Miss?» «Evans, sir,» Lily said, lowering her arm. «Don’t you think it’s wrong to define Muggle rights protesters as extremists? They march peacefully just to obtain…» «Peacefully?» Rosier shouted, making Severus jump. «Those animals have killed wizards!» «They were only defending themselves, they were attacked by…» «Silence, both of you!» Professor Muldoon said. «This is not a debate, nor a political rally,» he drew a deep breath, puffing out his chest. «It is obvious that the violence of recent months has come from both sides, for different reasons, certainly. But we cannot pretend that horrific acts have not also been committed by Muggle activists.» Lily opened her mouth in outrage, but the professor continued, frowning. «Anyone who demands rights must be judged on the same terms as everyone else. That is how the law works. If one wants equality, one must accept not only rights, but duties as well. Killing wizards in cold blood is not tolerable. I know many wizards consider Muggle activists harmless because they lack magic, but the events of recent months have shown us otherwise.» Wilkes and Rosier murmured in agreement.

Read the complete chapter on Ao3 (from Chapter 28)

My Severus Snape Fanfciction Canon Compliant The Story of the Prince (Italian/English) by G_Monti_E

[knight-already]

Knighty opinion: I dont wanna harry potter remake or a marauders period anything

LISTEN

IN MY HONEST OPINON I REALLY DONT WANT A MARAUDERS SPIN OFF.

BECAUSE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT SEVERUS TOBIAS SNAPE IS AN UNLIKED CHARATER -- MANY DONT UNDERSTAND HIM AND REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND HIM. 

THEY GO AS FAR AS TO PRAISE JAMES FOR ABSUING HIM BECAUSE HE WAS A SLIMY GIT -- FUTURE DEATH EATER -- SLYTHERIN 

OR AS JAMES SAYS : JUST CAUSE HE EXIST.

TAKE YOUR PICK.

CAN YOU IMAGINE A WORLD WHERE THE DO GIVE A MARAUDERS SPIN OFF -- CAN YOU SEE THAT THEY WOULD DO SEVERUS ANY JUSTICE?

NO! 

THERE ARE SO MANY  MARAUDERS STANS WHO REFUSE TO ACCEPT WHAT THOSE BOYS DID -- THEY SAY THEY GREW AND CHANGED. 

 THEY ARE THE MAJORITY!

THERE ARE SO MANY WHO FEEL JILY IS LIKE THIS SOUL MATE -- ROMEO AND JULIET -ISH 

AND I MEAN I GUESS IN A SENSE IT IS -- FORBIDDEN LOVE

BECAUSE JAMES WAS ABUSING HER BEST FRIEND ITS SO ICK OF HER TO DO THAT!

AND SHE CLAIMED TO HATE HIM FOR HIS ARROGANT WAYS.  

ITS ALL JUST PERFECT THAT SEVERUS REALLY DID BECOME A DEATH EATER BECAUSE HE WAS GROOMED INTO IT BECAUSE HE HAD NO OTHER SUPPORT AROUND HIM. 

(ITS A WONDER DO YOU THINK JAMES WAS INFLUENCED  INTO BEING A BULLY? BY HIS DEATH EATER RAISED FRIEND -- SIRIUS BLACK.

THEY CLAIMED THEY WEREN’T LIKE THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDN;T USE THE WORD MUD BLOOD --

OTHER WISE THE WAY THEY JUST ABUSED SEVERUS WAS COOL.)

IT PERFECT THAT SEVERUS CALLED HER A MUDBOOD -- BECAUSE NOT A FEW YEARS LATER SHE MARRIED JAMES BECAUSE 

“SHE GOT TO KNOW HIM AND HE CHANGED!” 

“jAME GREw As A pErsON -- SNAPE DIDN’T!”

YALL REALLY THINK THEY GONNA GIVE MY MAN SEVERUS A CHANCE? 

IN THE RISK OF BRINGING TO LIGHT HOW AWFUL LILY WAS TO HIM, AND WHAT A LOSER JAMES WAS?

no

THEY WON’T