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Tbf being 28 and having multiple accounts dedicated to writing fanfic about a kids book series is more embarrassing than being 16
Okay, Anon, now take the pacifier away and tell me with your real account. Are you such a coward you can't tell me directly? I share my passion and my stories, while you enjoy private messages to annoy people. This is truly embarrassing. I repeat, your opinion is worth less than zero.
I'm working on the huge project of writing All the Young Dudes - Severus's Perspective and making the story TRULY canon-compliant. So far, I've published all the chapters covering the first year, and I already have chapters up to chapter 43 finished.
It's challenging, but I have to say that the first part of the story is very... well, flat. Sure, things happen, but very slowly, which is why many chapters, even in the original, are really short. I'm trying to write as quickly as possible so I can complete the story before ATYD is removed from the platforms. I don't think that will happen anytime soon, even given the rumors, but you never know.
This is to say that, yes, the first version of Severus's POV will be less in-depth than I normally would, but it serves as a basic structure to build upon once the story is finished.
Snape Gang Fanart
Image inspired by the famous gang illustration by @souryam How I imagine the gang including Evan (canonically part of the gang) and Caradoc
Bruce Mulciber Severus Snape Evan Rosier Caradoc Dearborn Wilhelm Wilkes Edmund Avery Charity Burbage Aurora Sinistra
SNAPE GANG GUIDE
SNAPE GANG FANFICTION COLLECTION
SNAPE JOINED THE DE IN HOPES OF IMPRESSING LILY
I was thinking about this point since I'm working on the new chapters of TSOTP in which I try to include as many canonical things as possible in a coherent manner. As you know by now, I consider direct statements from the author to be canon, so things like: "He (Snape) wanted Lily and he wanted Mulciber too." or the fact that James was jealous of Lily and Severus's relationship are canon
The point is that inserting this into the story in a credible way isn't easy. Let's start with the obvious: Snape is 16 years old, he's not a child, but he's not an adult either. I remember being 16 quite well, and looking back, I realize how immature I was, at least compared to today. Furthermore, in the story, in 1976/1877, the first wizarding war was about to break out; they were already in a state of war, even if it wasn't explosive. Voldemort was rising to power, albeit in the shadows. The Death Eaters were already known and active, as were their ideals, yet the fact that they were evil is just a vision. Calm down, calm down, I'm not really justifying the Death Eaters; they were horrible people, disgusting classists who wanted to hunt Muggles for sport. But in the narrative fiction, they thought they were right; every good villain thinks they are misunderstood heros, and that's what makes the story fascinating. For this reason, reading and writing about indoctrinated children shows us how sadly understandable their siding with the wrong side actually is. Even today, extremism is active in the real world, and by trivializing the difference between right and left, no one truly believes they're wrong; everyone, or almost everyone, is convinced that anyone who opposes their political faction is the wrong extremist. So, in their minds, future DEs are heroes against the grain. The fact that most people are against their ideals makes them fall, in a distorted way, into the classic "the difficult choice is the right one, conforming to the crowd is the lazy and wrong choice." When Dumbledore says: "We must choose between what is right and what is easy" future DEs interpret it as: "You see, we are frowned upon because we subvert the system. It would be easy to do as the others do, but we choose the difficult path, and therefore we are right." And this is where Snape's tragedy solidifies. He isn't just a boy who needs belonging and protection; he, like everyone else, wants to be useful, to prove that he matters and that he has courage, the courage to fight for what he believes is right. From this perspective, the author's statement makes perfect sense. He doesn't think he'll impress Lily by torturing people like her, Muggle-borns, because he doesn't yet know that DEs do that, canonically. He thinks that DEs fight to defend wizarding rights. And that opposing the superficial do-goodism will truly bring protection to wizards. For Severus, Muggles are dangerous; just look at how his father treats him and his mother. For Severus, growing up with Muggles is a problem that makes him ghettoized; an all-magical society would be preferable. Of course, it's unfeasible, and above all, it wouldn't lead to the results he hopes for, but for a sixteen-year-old, this idea makes sense, especially when most of his classmates who protect him have those same ideals. And so when Muldoon (the sixth-year Defense Professor I created for my FF) makes this speech:
"There's a huge need to be accepted and feel part of something. We're all social beings. But this fear of being perceived as different pushes us to conform, and there's no worse way to kill each other's uniqueness." He saw Lily nod strangely; he had the distinct impression that she didn't like Muldoon at all. “Remember, different doesn't mean wrong, not even in the dictionary. Each of you has your own pace, your own rhythm, and your own mind, and you must have the strength to think with it. I know it's much more comfortable to trust someone else to make decisions for you. Following the crowd is easy, but very often the easy path isn't the right one.” That simple sentence triggered something in his mind; it was so obvious, yet so enlightening. Everyone seemed to have the truth in their pocket, everyone knew what was right, but in reality it was all appearance, ostentatious do-goodism. All the talk of Squibs' rights, defending Muggles, it was all just a facade, a way to avoid feeling out of place, different. Mulciber had told him, many wouldn't understand what his father was doing, what The Lord was fighting for. Most were against it, but those who had the strength to think for themselves agreed with him. Wizards had to be defended, the wizarding world had to be protected. The more difficult path was the right one. He briefly met Lily's gaze; she too seemed convinced, moved by Muldoon's words. She probably couldn't truly join the cause, she was too indoctrinated, too caught up in that rampant do-goodism, but deep down she knew it was the right path. Perhaps, he dared to think, if he truly became an active soldier in defense of wizards, she would be impressed.
From chapter 33 The Story of the Prince
Snape interprets it completely differently from Lily, but seeing that she also seems convinced and nods, he makes the fatal mistake of thinking she'll be impressed if she sees him fighting in a war she can't actively participate in. And that's the real tragedy.
But before writing the chapter, I did some research, and I'm still doing it, and I've come across some very interesting counterarguments, for example:
It’s poor writing, because Rowling doesn’t show in the books what would make Snape think that Lily would be impressed by him joining a hate group AFTER she told him off for wanting to join a hate group.
This actually makes sense from an outside perspective; we know how the story went and how it ended, just as we know almost everyone's points of view. So, of course, fifth-year Lily ends her friendship with Severus, partly because of his closeness to the future Death Eaters, and she's already guessed he wants to join them, but she doesn't know why. She thinks she knows, but she doesn't wait for his response. So, once again, tragedy strikes: they have seemingly opposing views on the same issue. Lily sees the DEs as a hate group, Severus sees them as defenders. Is Snape stup*d, then?
No, it's simply the opposite of the point of view. Try to PUT YOURSELF INTO THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
Let's leave aside the DEs and the adults and just look at the student groups. For Lily and the others, the Marauders are arrogant kids (James and Sirius more than anything). Okay, in some cases they went too far, but practically everyone judged them. Lily herself draws the line at not using dark magic, so for her, the illegal spell used on Bertram isn't that serious, the SA she suffered from Snape isn't that serious, while the attacks the Slytherin gang uses are extremely serious. What Mulchber TRIED to do to Mary is much more serious than what the Marauders actively did. She's not silly, she simply has this view, she has a different value system and experiences, so for her, the Slytherin gang is worse than the Marauders. For Snape, who has actively endured a lot of bullying and aggression, Marauders are much worse than some of the insults his friends use. Neither Lily nor Severus is stup*d or evil; they're simply on different sides, and neither is making the effort to truly understand the other. And they both hope the other will change his mind: Lily hopes the ultimatum will push Snape away from future DEs and the dark arts, while he hopes to impress her by showing her that he's brave.
And as silly as this may seem, I repeat, to a 16-year-old the connection is clear. James Potter, whom Lily considers arrogant and annoying, earned points in her eyes when he heroically saved Snape from a threat she doesn't even know about. The worst bully in school, who curses his classmates out of boredom, had impressed Lily long ago, so why shouldn't Snape actively fighting in a war impress her just as much, if not more? I repeat, it's obvious that it's absurd in our eyes, because we know the whole story and have a clear vision. I'm going to risk making a point that's factual but absurd, but be careful, it's not meant to be an attack, it's just to explain. Let's say you're an omnivore and you eat meat. That's fine with you; there's nothing strange about it, you've always done it. However, a movement for vegan rights is growing, wanting to defend their right not to eat meat and have other foods. In doing so, however, they organize demonstrations that block access to meat shops, thus prohibiting you from buying your food. They use force to limit your rights, and you get irritated. They accuse you of being a mur***er because you eat meat. A reactionary movement for the rights of meat eaters is forming, and you join in. You don't want to prevent vegans from eating what they want, you don't want to force them to eat meat, you just want you and people like you to be free to eat meat. Your joining that movement doesn't make you a monster, just as those who fight for vegan rights don't. But then everything degenerates, the tone becomes harsher, and what were intended to be defensive movements become offensive, personal inclinations become a reason for violent struggle, and your desire to eat chicken makes you the equal of Hannibal Lecter. Conversely, those who fight for the right to eat tofu in peace and defend animals are made out to be crazy people who want to force everyone to be vegan and who would have all meat-eaters arrested.
Obviously all this is absurd and trivialized, but I hope it helps us understand how the vast majority of people who participate in reactionary movements aren't extremist in nature but are lumped together. They don't join together to attack but to defend. When things get too far ahead, even the memory of who started them and why is lost. What remains is the war. And if you join halfway (as happens in the Marauders' area) you don't have a clear idea; you don't know who escalated the conflict. We know it was Voldemort in the shadows, who's been working on this since the 1940s with the first DEs, but the general population doesn't know this; they only see the result.
So ultimately, I think the author's statement makes perfect sense for young Snape, and in fact makes him even more nuanced than many fans see him. It saddens me to see how many trivialize him by calling him stupid or senseless or poor writing, when in reality it shows his humanity.
Okay, I admit, ever since I read a MFan's comment about the comparison they made between Marauders and Dead Poets Society (totally wrong, as I explained HERE), I started thinking about doing some graphics dedicated to the Snape Gang and the parallels with DPS. Come on, I mean, look at them, they're the same person:
I didn't want to spoil it like this, but I'm working on the next chapters of The Story of the Prince, and Defense Professor Octavius Muldoon is partly inspired by Professor Keating, so instead of making it just a vague homage to counter the Marauders Fans' nonsense, I decided to make it even more explicit. I'll post some excerpts from the next chapters.
Snape Gang as "The Dead Poets Society"
I just read this:
And you know what? I think it's really interesting how today's fandom has distorted canonical characters so much that they're the exact opposite of what they are. The Marauders are like the characters from "The Dead Poets Society" really? Dude, are we talking about the same story?
Do you know which Marauders-era group could truly be compared to The Dead Poets Society? The Slytherin gang, the Snape Gang, and we're talking canon, not some absurd, OOC, canon-divergent FF. Let's look at the facts.
Severus Snape = Todd Anderson An insecure, shy boy who feels out of place. An intelligence that doesn't dare to expose itself. A voice that emerges late, but with devastating force. A boy who, from isolation, finds acceptance in a group of more outgoing classmates who truly welcome and praise him for who he is.
Evan Rosier and Wilkes = Charlie Dalton (Nuwanda) Rebellion as performance, transgression that becomes identity, a fascination with chaos, a rejection of rules more by instinct than by reflection. His going against the grain and following his ideals leads him to a tragic end.
Avery and Mulciber = Neil Perry (beginning) They are suffocated by their fathers, so overshadowed by them that they have no identity of their own. They carry expectations on their shoulders, the idea that they will follow in greater footsteps by becoming Death Eaters themselves. But once they do, they are nothing special; they are merely an extension of their fathers. (So much so that in the canon they have no name) But the two like Neil decide to accept the insecure and shy boy (Severus/Todd) and make him part of something bigger.
Caradoc Dearborn = Neil Perry (end)/Richard Cameron (this is the only HC point since it is never said that Caradoc is part of the Gang, but as with Aurora or Charity it serves to create more varied dynamics) Caradoc is like Avery and Mulciber, relegated to a name; he too is extroverted, expansive, and ready to protect and encourage Severus. But unlike the other two, Caradoc follows Neil's tragic descent. He goes against the ideals of his friends and openly opposes the Death Eaters; he follows his ideals, his dream of freedom, and for this he loses his life. This also brings him closer to Richard Cameron, at least from the point of view of his friends, who see him as a traitor who not only distances himself from them but seeks to destroy everything they fight for. The tragic ends of the three Avery, Mulciber, and Caradoc leave Severus alone and disconsolate.
Oh, but I imagine this reading is too uncomfortable for MFans, because it challenges their false certainties and forces them to read the story in an overly mature way. But if they really dare to draw these parallels, then they should be able to manage and argue for them. The canonical Marauders (who are the only real ones) were arrogant bullies, not romantic poets. They didn't rebel against the rules to find themselves, but instead did it precisely to elevate themselves, to appear superior and untouchable. And they picked on the most insecure, like Todd/Severus.
The Marauders would have bullied Todd, they wouldn't have included him in their group. And no, don't even try, don't mention Peter and Remus, because we know that in canon they only included them in the group out of necessity. Sirius treated Peter badly, belittled him, James used him as a mascot to feed his ego, and Remus? I know perfectly well that the MFans would like to compare him to Todd, but he really isn't Todd. He had power, he had the material possibility to stop his friends from making mistakes, and he didn't. Not to mention that both Sirius and James actively suspected Remus during the war, so much so that they entrusted the secret to Peter rather than Remus, the werewolf. No, I'm sorry, but the Marauders weren't the Dead Poets Society; they're the ones who would have destroyed it.
I know you don't like it, but these 6 are the Dead Poets Society
(credit art @eleni-anz / @elenin )
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My friend @the-most-faithful (Monty) just found out their blog was deleted without warning because of a report.
They're appealing but aren't sure they'll get their blog and posts back.
They told me they'd received strange private messages before this deletion. I don't know about you, but I can think of a few people who might have tried to harm them.
Sorry to tag you, but if you can't find their posts anymore, you know why
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Do you know of any way to save old posts or interactions? All the work they've done over the years to dismantle ATYD, his collection in defense of Snape, his posts on fandom issues have been lost otherwise 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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What are your general opinions about the Snape gang and your take on their personalities?
My apologies, I totally missed your message. I love this question.
I love the Snape Gang and their potential. It's a diverse group, much more inclusive than others. I've always imagined Rosier, Mulciber, and Avery as total purists given their families, though I expect Rosier to be closer to Grindelwald's ideals since Vinda was so close to Gellert and the Alliance. I've always imagined Avery and Mulciber as very close childhood friends. It's amazing how throughout the saga, the two are almost always mentioned together; they're inseparable. Aurora Sinistra is such an interesting character. She's sharp, intelligent, and strong. She doesn't accept bullying, defends Charity, and is the one who first approached the Hufflepuff. I like to think she's also a childhood friend of Mulciber and Avery. This gives depth to their relationship, given that when war breaks out, they'll go their separate ways. The affection that binds them will never disappear, but their ideals are too different and this will lead them to drift apart. Wilkes is more complicated for me, I often see him with an outgoing and sunny personality, but I think he's hiding something inside, a pain perhaps linked to the family we know so little about. He's certainly a purist, but his motivations are often hidden. Charity is a bit of an exception in the group, a shy and introverted Muggle-born who one would expect to be targeted by the Purebloods, but thanks to Aurora's intervention, she is slowly integrated into the gang until they all protect her. Mulciber and Avery also respect her because she's rich, and that matters to them, especially given how they were raised. Avery jokingly tries to reassure her by saying that it's not her fault she was Muggle-born, she's a victim. xD She obviously doesn't believe in purist ideals, in fact she often finds herself arguing with Wilkes to defend the rights of non-wizards as well. When the first war breaks out, her friends protect her, and Aurora advises her to stay in the Muggle world. She will return to Hogwarts only after Voldemort's return from the Triwizard Tournament because she fears for her life and hopes to be protected at Hogwarts. Unfortunately, however, we know that this won't be enough because she will be kidnapped by Death Eaters anyway, and sadly, none of her few surviving friends will be able to save her (I wrote this part from Snape's POV in The Most Faithful *cry*). Her d**th devastated Aurora, who screamed in Snape's face for not saving her. And then we come to him, our Severus. Even though the group is called the "Snape Gang," I don't think he's the leader. I find it ridiculous that many Marauders Stan elect him as their leader when in canon he's a poor half-blood living in the Muggle world. He's not the leader of the group, but the glue between the two sides. He's respected by the purebloods for his brains, and they admire him for his creativity in creating new spells and his skill in potions.
He's friends with Charity, whom he understands since they both live in the Muggle world, even though she's in a much more comfortable situation given her wealth, and in some ways she's unexpectedly more similar to her rich pureblood friends than to other Muggle-borns like Lily. Severus is protected by his friends, who will be the only ones to welcome him and accept him for who he is without trying to change him. We don't know much about his relationship with the gang, but one of the few CANON things we do know, stated by the author, is that: "Snape wanted Lily and he wanted Mulciber too" and this, ladies and gentlemen, is our canon bisexual icon, not other characters who transform into wolves once a month. Snape is coded as bisexual; accept it. U.U And finally, if you've been following me for a while, you know I also include Caradoc Dearborn in the Snape Gang. Much like with Aurora Sinistra, we don't have any canonical details to confirm this HC (aside from an old tweet I found years ago where the author stated that Caradoc was a Slytherin), but I love him because, as I said before, the depth and complexity of the relationships. Caradoc is a member of the original Order of the Phoenix; he sided against Voldemort during the first war, finding himself fighting his friends, though I like to think he actually protected them on several occasions. He was extremely close to Severus; he always saw him as the brother he never had; he was extremely protective of him (I love that others have characterized Caradoc this way, too). I have so many HCs about the Gang; I even created slides on Pinterest with some of them dedicated to the members; you can find them HERE.
