#spn theory

[adeptune01]

When Amara said “I can see inside your heart. Feel the love you feel. Except, it’s cloaked in shame.” And later we find out Dean was never in love with her…yeah so what does that mean exactly

[lateto-everyfandom]

The maroon shirt theory:

My favorite color has become maroon/wine red and I think it is supernatural's fault.

My current theory is that anytime this shirt is worn.....because yes, he wore it in the pilot where everything started to go wrong.......crap is going to get crazy. Someone is going to die. Dean is going to get or cause emotional damage. I have now started to see this shirt and curl up into a ball because I just know that something really bad is going to happen. I love it and hate it at the same time.

Episodes to back this up:

Season 1 Episode 1: 'Pilot'

Season 1 Episode 6: 'Skin'

Season 10 Episode 3: 'Soul Survivor

Season 11 Episode 14: 'The Vessel'

Season 11 Episode 17 'Red Meat'

There are more, I am sure. But these are definite.

[giveemhellk1d]

THE GENERAL THEORY OF THE CAGE

(BASED ON THE SPN CANON AND PHYSICS)

INTRODUTION

sup my name is Mark and this is my longread on explaining the nature of the cage from a scientific point of view (kind of). I advise you to familiarize yourself with each topic separately and in more detail through articles/videos, cuz it'll help you to understand what I'm trying to mention here. I won't be able to describe ALL of this in one post at once. this is too much material, and we only need a part of it. I'm not a certified scientist, but I'm still an enthusiast! I'll also combine some of my knowledges for convenience so that at the end of my post we can answer several questions about the plot/plot holes related to the cage together.

and yeah, PLEASE keep in mind that all the data I'll be using relates only to THEORIES, HYPOTHESES and MATHEMATICAL MODELS that help science nowadays, but have NOT yet been confirmed by facts.

however if you're interested in how you can most accurately describe the cage in a fanfiction or in other media — that's why we're here. let's go.

a bit of canon

first, let's agree on exactly how we view the cage. as you probably know, on wiki fandom, the cage is listed in both the "places" and "objects" sections, but I want a more comprehensive approach.

so, I suggest referring to the fact that the cage, in a global sense, is a phenomenon that arises as a result of eternal imprisonment with the help of Chuck's magic (Enochian symbols). in other words, the cage is a state of confinement alone with constant torment, and because of it a place is formed. A prison. That's what we saw a few seasons later:

but is that all? how can the cage be interpreted if it's both a state, a place, and a space too? let's figure it out.

let's start with why time goes differently in the cage. as is the case with the usual levels of Hell, this was mentioned repeatedly in the series itself: time stretches, and one earthly year turns into several hellish/even a century.

we see a similar effect when we talk about black holes: gravity in them is so strong that time actually stops. of course, gravity itself is more a convention than a real force, but according to the theory of the singularity, gravity tends to infinity exactly in the center of a black hole.

however, in the case of black holes, we can detect them, even if they are very, very far from our solar system (look at sum random simulation or a digitized image of a black hole through a telescope, and you will see an accretion disk that gives it a "glow"). this doesn't resonate too well with the idea of the cage, that is almost impossible to find:

but who told us that the cage is a three—dimensional space and object?

may sound corny, but believe me, it changes a lot.

imagine that angels, such as in SPN, actually exist. if they are complex, multidimensional beings with their own structure and energy, not similar in properties to ours, then how will we see them? in fact, there is no way. if we talk about them, without resorting to the whole story of the vessels, we, three-dimensional creatures, do not realize even a part of what angels really are.

therefore, to keep such a creature locked up, without the ability to move freely in space, we need something more complex than, ahem, an ordinary cube. what about the tesseract? or even a penteract?

just look at this... ugh

many people have probably already explored this, or heard about this, but didn't quite understand. that's why I recorded my screen with several objects from "4D toys", so it would be more interesting and easier for ya'll to perceive. :)

since a tesseract, or hypercube, consists of layers of many 3D cubes, this is exactly how it will be perceived by our eyes:

(I'm also pretty sure that the cage, being smth "material", most likely rotates around it's axis, and if we saw it from the outside, it would be smth similar ig.)

this happens because our 3D world, like our 3D perception, cannot capture the fourth plane, and being in it, the 4D object seems to "disappear". the next example is more illustrative:

this is what happens to a dodecahedron from the perspective of a 2D person when it's in his dimension, while you and I know that the object has not disappeared.

the same with this 600-faceted thing. beauty ^_^

well we've more or less figured out the behavior of multidimensional objects that we can't fully comprehend. to summarize, the cage might look like a 5D cube in the picture below:

but what about time and condition of the person trapped in it?

as I already said at the beginning of the post, the cage is not just an object and/or a place. this is also a state of eternal imprisonment. this vision explains the canonical moment when Crowley used Enochian cage spells on Nick to imprison Lucifer in this body forever.

but there's other existing theory that can explain such oddities.

do y'all remember Schrodinger's cat, and how it's in superposition? (which, in turn, is based on the wave function, quantum entanglement and decoherence.) well actually, the cat isn't alive and dead at the same time. the observer's paradox is that we, as an observer, find ourselves in only one of many possible outcomes. in our outcome, the cat may be alive, while in the other it's dying. that's what multi-layered reality theory says. observation doesn't change the position of particles, because particles don't care we are looking at them. we just catch only one result out of all possible ones (a multi-world interpretation).

and here's the point: if there's no such thing as time in the cage at all, which makes it seem to people it's going too slowly, then all possible outcomes of events will never happen. perhaps not for us, lol. but, for example, for more complex creatures. for example, for Lucifer. no, I don't want to say that it makes the reality of the cage simply. I want to say that, in that case it's hell. really. experiencing nothing in one permanent "now", like a constantly frozen frame, he will probably just stop feeling anything at all (no time = no sounds, light and etc). it will merge into one big "nothing", even if a vacuum isn't really empty. "virtual particles" are constantly being born and disappearing in it. but still. all this may well be the reason why the cage is so unbearable. yes, Lucifer is used to enduring this, somehow, but remember about Sam's mental state and imagine the scale of his horror.

overall, this is more my own artistic interpretation of the cage based on what I've already told you above. but there remains one last, important point.

the infinity of the cage

remark: infinity is not a number. it's a word that means endless growth. for this reason, infinity cannot be achieved, one can only strive for it.

what does it mean? well, if we talk about infinity as a property of our universe, then the universe isn't necessarily infinite in the usual sense. infinity can mean a cycle, and here's why:

this is an approximate model of what our universe might look like (yes, a donut). going up we'll return from below, going to the right we'll come to the left, so we'll never return to the same point. in fact, this is a limited version of infinity, which, in my opinion, perfectly match with the concept of the cage.

what do we have in general?

as I promised, now we'll answer (or try to) some questions and inconsistencies from the spn canon. so:

why does the cage have multiple entrances/exits if, according to the prophecy, it only opens at St. Mary's Convent? answer: as we found out together, the cage is a complex multidimensional space/object created as a result of magic that shackles the freedom of a being under it's influence. we cannot fix the accurate coordinates of the cage, because without magic it wouldn't exist at all as a "cage" or a box with chains (XD). that's why it can have more than one entrance and exit. this may also be the fault of the alchemical mistakes btw.

how was Azazel able to "talk" to Lucifer while he was still in the cage? answer: referring to the same difficulties of 4 or more dimensions, in the 3D world we will not be able to recognize such an object/phenomenon completely, we'll only see it's constantly changing parts as it moves through space-time. so I suppose that Azazel, being a 3D demon like humans, just managed to catch the right moment and choose the right place where he "came into contact" with the cage and Lucifer in it.

how can the cage contain an entity "inside it" in practice? answer: this is where magic works (with the help of science, hehe). quantum entanglement is a phenomenon in which two or more particles become so connected that the state of one instantly affects the state of the other, even if they are light years apart. the creature that finds itself "inside" the cage becomes so connected to the Enochian symbols that it can no longer separate itself from them. nope, this doesn't necessarily mean staying in the "same" place all the time. this means that no matter where the prisoner goes, he will remain in the cage dimension. he will remain connected, both literally and metaphorically. subsequently, this generates real torment and, possibly, even hallucinations due to psychological pressure.

what does it take to escape from the cage? answer: it's impossible to break the quantum entanglement. however, it's known that any interaction with the environment destroys quantum states, and entanglement disappears. do you remember how Amara, having broken free, damaged the cage by her mere presence on earth? I believe that this is a prime example of such an interaction. of course, focusing only on the canon of spn magic, it's hard to say why Lucifer couldn't get out right away, but these're more scenario errors lol.

CONCLUSION

thanks for reading. hope you were interested in studying this topic with me! if you find any inaccuracies in my wording, please lemme know, because english is my second language and I'll be very grateful to you. also don't forget to like reblog and comment if u love this format. in the future I want to consider other spn dimensions (heaven, hell, the empty, purgatory), so lemme know if you want this!! bye <3

[angel-fruitcake]

SPN S16 DESTIEL THEORY 🏳️‍🌈

ok please here me out- IF the spn revival is in the works, i believe it will include fully canon, romantically requited destiel. here's why:

the supernatural finale was fucked up, for many reasons. they know that. Misha knows it, Jensen knows it. everyone knows it. if they get the chance to redo the ending and fix things--a real shot at redemption--they won't make the same mistakes again.

yes, i'm fully aware that destiel is not the only thing that spn is about, not even the main storyline. but the moment they decided to let Cas confess his romantic love for Dean, they made it clear that that was a huge piece of the whole story. so if they write a revival that either doesn't acknowledge Cas' feelings (like with the finale), or worse, has Dean reject Cas' confession under the guise of being straight or only viewing Cas as family, they would be officially crowning themselves as The Most Homophobic and Most Hated Series To Ever Exist.

knowing Misha, if he's involved in the revival at all, he will make damn sure Cas gets justice. he wasn't satisfied with the way things ended either, and there is zero possibility that he will allow a revival to include Cas without going all the way with destiel this time. Castiel's love for Dean is apart of his story now, full stop. if they can't give him the ending he deserves, then there is absolutely no point in him even being in the revival.

and if for some godforsaken reason we learn that Cas isn't apart of it, it'll be obvious that Misha couldn't get destiel to happen, so he stepped back (at that point they will likely lose so much fandom interest in it that it'll be questionable if it's even worth making).

but i have a very hard time believing that Jensen would allow a rebirth to happen without Castiel/Misha being in it. he just wouldn't do that, it's too important for the story.

lastly, they won't be restricted by any network that's too cowardly or bigoted to allow the lead characters to be in a queer-presenting relationship. Jensen (or whoever buys/bought the rights to supernatural from WB) has the freedom to choose the company that picks up this project, because there is no actual pressure to make it. they don't have to do a revival; the show is over. if they give spn a rebirth, it will be a labor of love, created with the sole purpose of doing right by the fanbase and by the series itself. so if certain networks shoot down their ideas, they can find one that will be on board.

this is ofc just a theory and i know i shouldn't get my hopes up, but in my mind this is pretty solid.

if you read all that, thank you and i love you 💙💚💙💚

[lillies444lola]

My silly SPN hcs !!

- Gabriel LOOOOVES ‘Pretty fly for a white guy’ by the offspring

- Cas is actually very meticulous when it comes to picking out ties (he’s particular about his blues)

-while holy water doesn’t work on vamps, it is helpful for getting their blood (which has a different makeup than human’s) out of things (primarily clothing)

- Dean tried growing out his hair once, but kept thinking there was a person in his periphery so he buzzed it again

- Sam never needed the demon blood. It was all a placebo. Sam is, in essence, a crack baby. He got his first hit at 6mo and since then, that ‘dirty’ feeling was a longing deep in his bones for another. Ruby giving Sam her blood had two primary purposes: to make him believe he was powerful and to make him dependent on her. Sam had powers (visions) long before he tasted her blood. his powers only grew stronger cause he believed they were, when in reality, he was just allowing himself to use them. like ava and jake (the other demon blood kids) said, he just had to embrace it. nither of the other kids mentioned drinking blood or were shown to drink blood which i believe would be a pretty important thing to show when displaying their descent. i also think that the second sam was put on that plane, every bit of demon blood was washed out of him. additionally, the trials weren’t ’purifying’ him. i think any human would’ve died doing them and the self sacrifice was the final trial.

- jack likes tic tacs

[catsconflictscopicsandchamomile]

Cas is alive and in the Good Omens universe, because Heaven pulled him out of The Empty (as they have done many times before) on September 8th, 2022, and sent him to England to record the death of Queen Elizabeth II.

...and yes. this is supported by actual religious lore.

[bluewritinghood]

[violetpurpleviolet]

Supernatural, Season 7 , Episode 7

The Mentalists

“You are a virile manifestation of the divine.” Is the best possible affirmation Dean could get.

I like this , a normal ish ghost case.

Ellen just gave advice to Dean. He needed that.?

Wasn’t Sam a psychic?????? Was the demon blood he got fed as a kid removed when he got zapped back by god after releasing Lucifer?

I also want to know how the spoon bending works