ALRIGHT! Sprinting to write this before chapter five comes out. Finally doing something I've been wanting to ramble about for a while,which issss: The Parallels Between SSO/TSS Hypno Steve And Susie Deltarune
Because believe me,there are a LOT.
Now. Do I think Tobias Fox watched fms series? No not a chance. However! I do think that the reason they're so similar (besides me seeing Hypno in everything) is that they fall under similar character tropes. And I may be reaching,but using this,I think we can see the role Susie may play in the final chapter
So without further ado,let's begin.
Beginning analysis
So from the moment we meet Susie,she's seen as this rough bully. Everyone is scared of her,nobody in school wants to be around her,and despite living in a town of monsters,Susie is indeed regarded as a monster. And she doesn't push against this reputation. She lashes out and threatens people,she acts like she doesn't care,and she doesn't try. ...because why should she? If no matter what she does or how many times she tries,she has to leave and fight to make friends all over again...why should she bother?
This (on a much lesser scale) is a lot like how we first meet Hypno in SSO. He's scary and off-putting,he lashes out at the entirety of Steve kind and the world for how he was treated,and says that he was treated "like a monster".
Both Hypno and Susie have already given up by the time we meet them. If the world hates them,why would they ever do anything against that?
...but still,they're holding back.
Susie could bite Kris's face off,but doesn't. Hypno could have refused to listen and kept attacking Rainbow,but he didn't. Susie could have bullied Noelle,but Noelle was kind to her,so Susie left her alone. Hypno could have gone on to hypnotize and mind control everyone like he had planned to,but Rainbow was kind enough to explain things to him and trusted Hypno to not break his mind when Rainbow let him in. So Hypno doesn't. Because truly,they needed someone who believed in them. That they didn't have to be a monster. Which leads us to...
Relationship with their friends
So I mentioned these two fall under similar tropes. There's probably a word for it,but this is very much the "evil" character becomes good for their friends then takes that far beyond a normal extent. Oh you wanted them to stop hurting people and be nice? Well now they're felling your enemies like it's a 9-5 and following you around happily. And you'd better be grateful.
If you are familiar with either of these fandoms,you know what I'm talking about. But for those that aren't,let me explain how normal Hypno and Susie are about their friends
-in the span of one day they get attached (Hypno to Rainbow,Susie to Kris)
-They stop hurting Random Citizens because they trust their friends
-They start just following their new friends around (Hypno invisibly,but Susie just does)
-They become willing to take on impossible fights for their friends (Hypno with Origin and technically Nightmare,Susie with the knight and the Titan)
Extra examples
-Nearly every action Hypno takes in the story following meeting Rainbow is indeed for Rainbow (we'll get into the insanity of these feats in the next section)
-Susie stands up to a very intimidating Carol when she's being a dick to Susie and Noelle
-Susie and Kris are strangely in sync with their actions,when Susie has a Strange Idea,Kris just goes along with it,and regardless of the soul they seem to genuinely like Susie
-Rainbow straight up let Hypno into his head and Hypno Mind Controller Steve just lets him wander and explain things. I think the most messing around thing he does is speeding Rainbow to the next memory. He fr lets Rainbow do anything forever and it starts right here
These two are just straight up insane about their friends (though admittedly I am a shipper of both Hypbow and Krusie) and that bleeds into the next section. The one that made me want to write all of this...
Defying Fate
Besides everything else,Hypno and Susie share a very strong theme of defying fate. Hypno defied his creator,defied a natural defeat for the world,defied death not once,but (if you count TWA as canon,which I do) twice. Rip to the afterlife,because it sure as fuck couldn't hold him when he's on a mission to save it for Rainbow. Susie defied her own reputation,the natural "rules" of social expectations,and again a natural defeat. And both of them defy the prophecy.
In Hypno's case,it was actually Rainbow's prophecy,which he called out for being a sham and likely destroyed.
For Susie,it's the prophecy of Deltarune. Whether it's the role of the girl or the dragon,she isn't playing along with either. She isn't a helpless damsel going along with the cage,but she also isn't a mindless corrupt beast. She knows how to fight and how to heal.
They both deface the prophecy too- Hypno adding his little "and the minds will fall" sign and Susie physically destroying the panel of the tragedy. Both of these are more symbolic acts as well. The prophecy Hypno sees is only in Rainy's mind,so adding onto it does nothing. The panels reform,so destroying it does nothing in deltarune. But it showcases something.
The prophecies can be changed.
If you add something,or break it,the meaning changes.
And through defying fate,you can find a happier ending.
I don't think Deltarune is going to end in tragedy- at least the normal route.
Tss wasn't meant to end in tragedy,and it didn't until that dumbass season two ending that I begrudgingly consider canon for season two being my favorite section.
Hypno helped Rainbow defy his prophecy. And Susie is going to help her friends defy theirs.
The Ending
The ending.
How is it GOING to end?
That doesn't matter.
How do you WANT it to end?
If you could rewrite the world to anything,push through natural barriers,what would you do? Would you follow around your only friend for over 7 generations? Would you befriend objects that are really people,and convince them that they're real and they matter? Would you be willing to bear a burden if it meant the world could be saved? Would you refuse to accept defeat no matter what? Even if there wasn't any way out,would you still try your hardest to save them?
What kind of ending do you want?
That's the question that gets asked to both Susie and Hypno. Hypno more metaphorically,but Susie gets asked by Gerson.
And the ending they choose?
Eternity.
Hypno in an afterlife with his dearest friend,watching the worlds together. Susie playing with Kris and Noelle and Ralsei.
Both of them happy with their friends,forever
Isn't that something?
At this late hour,with the bells ringing out in justice
You both choose eternity.
And to save their friends,both of them are willing to do impossible things to get that eternity.
That supposed to be defeat I mentioned? That was when the heroes of the world were up against a god named Origin Steve.
And Hypno destroyed him.
Hypno smited a god. Despite every single thing telling him he couldn't. For an afterlife with Rainbow. For peace and eternity with his beloved Rainbow,and the safety of the world he fought so desperately to protect,Hypno Steve struck down a God.
And who's to say Susie can't do the same?
When the roaring comes? When Titans shape from darkened eyes?
Who's to say Susie can't stop them?
It's not what will stop her,but what will try.
Because Hypno got his happy ending.
And believe me,if I know anything about Susie...
She'll fight tooth and nail to get it too.