Which side character in storm hawks do you think deserves a stand alone episode?
While I’m absolutely fascinated by the Colonel as a character, as well as what life is like for the ‘average’ Cyclonian, I’d have to say I’d most want to see a standalone episode on Repton and his Raptors.
We don’t get told anything about their culture except they eat any prey, including humanoids. Often described as cannibals, how did a seemingly primitive reptilian society manage to subdue and enslave the much more intelligent Terradons into doing their bidding? Is there another species of apex predator that preyed upon the residents of Bogaton, requiring an alliance until the creation of the Bogaton defence system?
Also, what about their social dynamics? Reptiles hardly have any variations between male and females of the species save for size and occasionally some colour difference. Is the gender ratio of Raptors 50/50? Or are females rarer? Repton seems to hold his mother in high regard, enough to keep him from killing off his nest-siblings (I’m guessing they’re from the same clutch) because he promised her not to. Is this standard for Raptor society? Do the females focus on the architecture/farming/cooking while the males are sent out to scavenge or hunt? Do they hold males in high regard? Or are females considered the most respected? What traits do Raptors as a species look for in a mate?
On a different tangent, why did Repton ally Bogaton with Cyclonia when their air defense mechanism is considered so incredible, especially when this happened before the Terradons ran for it? Did he respect Cyclonia for having a powerful elder female ruling them? Or has his Raptors efforts at raiding nearby terras like Mesa been repelled so often that the Raptors could be facing a famine? Do Raptors truly commit cannibalism by eating their own species or do they hold some respect for their own kind, exclusively eating other humanoids?
There’s just so much I’d love to know more about them, it would also set a standard for just how weird other cultures or species on Atmos could be.
What is the main currency in Atmosia? Could it be significantly different from the currency of Cyclonia, or do both terras use the same monetary unit?
I apologize in advance if you have already been asked a similar question 🥲
Nah don't worry about it :3 Even if someone had already asked this I'd just be happy to share it again. I talked about this a while back in the discord server... nearly two years ago, whoops. Time for a refresher course!
In canon it appears that Atmos uses some sort of dollar system because we see Finn in Energy Crisis buying that puzzle box with "a buck" and holding a green piece of paper that looks like a dollar bill. I find that to be a bit of a copout for multiple reasons, so here's the system I use for my lore and hope to apply in fics.
I'm starting with Cyclonia purely because they're the easier one to explain. Every Terra in the Empire is required to use the same currency (₯) for ease of access and currency conversion stations are very easy to find in most major cities and towns.
Meanwhile in the Free Atmos, currency is far more varied, and as a result being able to afford things becomes significantly more complicated.
For example currency that is accepted on Terra Atmosia and Terra Mesa ($) won't be accepted on Terra Rex (£). Terras that are close together (Amazonia, Toledos, Ray, Tropica) use the same currency (₲) due to convenience, but it's difficult to find a place to convert your outsider currency to the one you need.
Only a handful of Terras such as Saharr and Zooma will accept any kind of currency due to the fact that their economies are based off of trade, gambling and bartering, and many Terras on the edge of the Known Atmos will resort to a barter system rather than a standardised currency.
As for what the currencies actually look like, most Terras use thin metal discs (thinner than most irl coins) with small holes in the middle and engravings to indicate which currency it is and which Terras it can be used on. This is to save on materials as metal is best used in other areas such as ships.
We've seen stork rant and rave about mind worms, are they real in your universe? Cause I've never seen anyone utilizing that yet
I’m like 50/50 on that. Cuz sometimes I’ll be like “pff, yeah they’re not real” but then other times I’ll be like “maybe they are??”
I haven’t thought about it too much, since it doesn’t come up in my fic but I dunno. If we have heart worms and tape worms irl, why not mind worms in a fictional world? XD
I wanna say it’s rare to get them if most people don’t even believe in them. Maybe they only live in one area of Atmos that people just don’t frequent anymore.
where the storm hawks founded by lightning strike?
Now that there is a question I don't actually have the answer to.
The Condor is 117 years old during the run of the show, and the presence of the Storm Hawks emblem implies no, but they also repeatedly refer to Lightning Strike and his squad as the "original Storm Hawks", which they would not be if they'd been founded before Lightning Strike; the founders would be the originals, while Lightning Strike and his squad would be the previous. Wording matters.
Now, this could always be poor wording due to the fact the plot was very obviously not fully hashed out when the show started (Dark Ace's backstory as a traitor has very obviously not been established yet during The Code, otherwise it would be painfully obvious honour would mean very little to a traitor, and Harrier would know that), but I, personally, think the Condor just got repurposed for Squadron use, meaning that yes, I, personally, headcanon that Lightning Strike founded the Storm Hawks.
Whether or not that's actually canon, I couldn't tell you, because I'm pretty sure that's not ever actually established at any point. We really do know very little about the shows' lore from before Aerrow and his squad. It's actually a huge part of why I love the show so much; it's established just enough lore that there's a lot to play with and no more, so it leaves a lot of room for fan reinterpretation.
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Aka I gave this girl a family and then had to figure out why so many of them are absent from the show. This was the second most popular option in that poll I posted, so here we go.
I headcanon Cyclonia to be a matriarchy. Every ruler of the Empire since its founding has been a woman, with rare exceptions when the men take the position of regents for one reason or another. Even if the firstborn of a generation is a boy, they will never have a claim to the throne.
Queen Alyka Prosperis was the second ruler of Cyclonia after its founding as a kingdom. She was gifted the throne by First Queen Marinia, as they were close friends prior to Marinia's death. Since then Alyka's descendants have ruled Cyclonia and its expanding empire in one of the longest-running bloodlines in recorded history. No one is entirely sure who her partner was, who helped father the bloodline.
Master Polaris is a black mark on the royal family's history. Many say she cursed all the men in her family to take the form of monsters, in a fit of jealousy towards her brother Hemlock. Ever since then, the men of Cyclonia's royal family have been sickly and weak.
Cyclonis's great-grandmother is Master Roburis. Originally the youngest of four sisters, Roburis was not expected to rise to power. Then a plague hit Cyclonia, devastating the royal family and leaving her as the last survivor of her sisters. She wasn't a particularly attentive mother to her daughter, Morrigan, and some sources say she's the one to blame for instigating war with the Free Atmos, only to palm off the fallout onto the next generation.
Empress Morrigan Anarchis started her reign with the goal of doing better than her mother. Instead, she lead Cyclonia into a 50 year war that didn't end with her death, and repeated history by handing it off to Cyclonis. There are rumours that she orchestrated the assassination of her own husband and let the Sky Knights take blame for it in an incident that almost killed her only child, Cyclamen. She wasn't particularly popular as a ruler when she died, in fact it was no secret that the public greatly favoured Dark Ace over her.
Delphinium Cyclonis was seen as a symbol of hope for Cyclonia. A chance to finally end the war one way or another, but unfortunately she proved to be just as bullheaded as her grandmother. More concerned with learning new magical secrets and accessing the far side than actually ruling her Empire, it all ended in disaster after Cyclonia Rising. Now her brothers Larkspur and Cardin (Cardin largely belongs to @ashe-alter, thank you for helping me figure out these brothers :3) are struggling to pick up the pieces.
Oh this is a good one. Anyone who's been in the discord for a while will know more or less my ideas for this one.
Unlike Energy Crisis, I have actual grievances with this episode, and they are as follows:
The Raptors' disguises were just… why? I know why, it's because Storm Hawks is a kid's show, but surely you can give your audience a bit more credit than that. It's Dark Ace in Velocity all over again. I forgive it for the most part because it's a cartoon, but Nerd Corps is on thin ice XD
The people who are on the war path after the Hawks makes no bloody sense for when the episode happens in relation to the rest of the show. Yes, the show has episodic writing but by AMW, the Rex Guardians, Absolute Zeroes and Rebel Ducks all have an established history with the Hawks. If anything, more people than just Dove should've been trying to help them clear their names.
The crimes and items stolen is just nonsensical. There was no end goal for the Raptors here, they were just being evil for the sake of it and as a result the stakes were depressingly low. We deserved a bigger threat than what we got.
With those problems established, let's go over how I'd fix them, starting with the teams who think the Storm Hawks robbed them.
This episode would've been a great opportunity to introduce some squadrons we don't know very well. Perhaps the Buff Buzzards and the Screaming Queens, both teams we've seen in passing during Velocity, but that never got much development.
As for the teams we do know better. All of them felt like they were being written terribly out of character, excluding Wren. Wren can stay the crazy accusing old man he originally was. This man almost yeeted these kids into the Wastelands on their first meeting because he refused to believe that they weren't Cyclonians until Radarr bit him.
So we have Wren on the war path making false accusations again. How about the rest of the Rebel Ducks are following him to make sure he doesn't give himself an aneurism. Meanwhile Harrier and Suzy Lu are trying to get to the bottom of these thefts before pinning it on the Hawks. These kids surely wouldn't steal such valuable and even dangerous items, would they?
Now what is actually being stolen? And why?
The Cheese Stone is funny but ultimately useless. Let's replace it with a box of high-grade explosives, because one of my headcanons for the Rebel Ducks is that blowing things up is their favourite way to get shit done. Nobody makes a bomb like a Galeman can.
The snow blaster is… ok, I guess? One of the few instances of gun weapons being seen in Storm Hawks. But let's make it a bit more specific and have it that one of Suzy-Lu's frost crystals was stolen. An extremely rare one that's capable of freezing metal to the point where it shatters.
The Rex Guardians always seemed to me like one of the most influential squadrons in the Free Atmos, so as well as old Sky Knight relics they probably have archives of current and recent goings-on in the war, maybe even things that let them access high-security locations such as prisons.
If anyone can see where I'm going with this, you can have a cookie.
Stealing the Aurora Stone pieces is a brave move, and I'm sure anyone's attention would be grabbed by an attempt at such a crime.
So we have some new antagonists, and a running theme for the items that have been stolen. What can these things be used for? What goal shall we give the thieves of this rewrite?
How about a prison break?
The Atmosia Stockade is a high-security prison that houses Carver, and no doubt numerous other prisoners of war, such as high ranking Talons, turncoat Sky Knights, powerful Murk Raiders, the list goes on. The Free Atmos would stand to lose a lot if so many dangerous individuals escaped. Imagine the chaos!
And if that wasn't enough, I have one last major change to bring out.
The Raptors aren't the thieves in this. Not the main ones anyway. Perhaps they were hired as distractions, perhaps they did help with a couple of the thefts, but they're not the primary culprits. It's the Storm Hawks Reserve team.
This ties into other rewrite ideas I've got lined up, specifically Talon Academy. I decided a while back that several members of the Reserves that Aerrow suggested in TA and that never got mentioned again what the hell were in fact Cyclonian double agents. People with a huge motivation to break people out of the Stockade. And it'd explain why the likes of Wren are so sure that it was the Storm Hawks who robbed them. They have the right uniforms, the right insignia, and they are not a pack of giant lizards in paper masks.
...Sorry, I'm a bit salty.
I want the Storm Hawks to fail in this episode. It would've been interesting to see how they handle a loss like this, and I think it would make things incredibly interesting for the lead-up to Cyclonia Rising. Imagine all the new threats we could've gotten.
So that's my extensive ideas for how I'd rewrite Atmos's Most Wanted. Maybe one day I'll do a fanfic or even an audio drama based on this rewrite, because apparently recording my attempts at voice acting is something I want to so. I hope you enjoyed my ramblings!
Inspired by this post by @crossyyt. Saying what we're all thinking, Number One Fan was a lackluster episode despite the fact that it furthered what little overarching plot we managed to get out of the end of Season 2.
And it's because of this guy.
Gifs from this post by @atmosiacyclonia
Yeah, Noob. "The fan", and the writers' way of making jabs at both the fanbase and the industry as a whole apparently. Kind of entertaining on a first watch, especially over a decade after the show has ended, but looking at it critically...
He's just kind of a nothing character overall. We didn't need him to get involved in the quest for Warp crystals, he doesn't add anything to the story, he doesn't leave any meaningful impact on the story and yet he gets frozen in the prison crystal in Cyclonia Rising. Anyone could've been in his place and not much would've changed overall.
But I'm a believer that all characters have a use, you just need to find one for them. Noob didn't have much potential, but the potential that he did have feels wasted.
So let's see how he could've been put to better use.
TL;DR: I put him on the reserve team that was mentioned in Talon Academy and then never brought up again. Alternatively he could be a relative of Dark Ace.
Edit: I hit post on this too soon, added more thoughts as soon as I realised this wasn't in my drafts anymore.
First off: remove the meta commentary aspect. Poking fun at fans is bad form and commentary on real-life merch production in a fantasy setting like this is, in my opinion, nonsensical and makes my worldbuilding brain itch.
Second: Let's take a look at this kid's design.
When did y'all notice that Noob has black hair
and red eyes?
I only noticed a year ago.
Remind you of someone?
Allow me to freak out a bit, because
This can't have been an accident, right? What was the intent behind it? As far as I've noticed, these are the only two characters with this specific colouring. What was Nerd Corps trying to tell us??
Ok, freakout over. What are our options?
Noob and Dark Ace are related, and Noob's obsession with the Storm Hawks comes from knowing that he had a relative who was part of the old team.
Possible, but considering how quickly Noob bounced from being a Storm Hawks fan to an Absolute Zeroes fan, I don't think it's likely. If that is the case, then a rewrite of the episode would be needed to show a little bit more loyalty from Noob. I don't know about everyone else, but the jump from one fanbase to another feels like a pattern of behaviour in my opinion. He rotates through special interests on the regular. Nothing against that in a real-life context, but it feels like another mean-spirited jab at fans.
Meta commentary aside, Noob could be rewritten to be a fan of the original Storm Hawks because of this potential relation to them. It'd give us something close to a "real" origins episode if Noob was given a chance to infodump about his old idols. Maybe he dislikes the new team for being "inauthentic", or he doesn't care all that much about them, he's just interested in the Condor; a crucial piece of Storm Hawks history.
As for Dark Ace? Noob could either be unaware that the copilot he might be related to was a traitor (possibly indicating that the Sky Knights tried to cover up the traitor aspect), or he rejects the copilot out of disgust. He's just a traitorous Cyclonian after all and fodder for an identity crisis in Noob if he was anything close to a main character.
In short: Noob could've been used as an exposition device.
Option 2, and my personal take on how Noob can be made useful:
Rewrite him in full and give him a touch more screen time. Put him in Talon Academy for a scene or two, and then have him beg to join the reserve team that Aerrow suggested to Lynn. "Number One Fan" makes good on this suggestion and is about the whole reserve team, not just Noob.
I see this as a two birds, one stone solution. Noob gets to be useful, keeps his character trait as a mega-fan of the Storm Hawks, and that loose end from Talon Academy gets tied up somewhat. As much as I love the show, its episodic writing lead to quite a bit of disappointment. But it just means we get to play with all the elements like dolls.
Let him be an exposition piece for the world in regards to sky knight merchandise, but have it make sense in the context of Atmos. If he really is the only Storm Hawks fan out there (which I find doubtful), why are action figures of the team being made without the Hawks knowing? Either all his figures be handmade, or repurposed from existing figures of more popular teams like the Rex Guardians. Or hell, keep the joke that there aren't any Piper dolls in production, but have it be due to resource scarcity brought in by the war. Or Cyclonis bought every single Piper doll to use as target practise for whatever machine or weapon she's working on.
As I said above, let him be from the Talon Academy. Have him be so enamoured with the Hawks' takedown of this Cyclonian institution that he latched onto them as heroes and then got wrapped up in war propaganda in his efforts to become their number one fan. He's obviously a good few years younger than the team, so have his understanding of the war be incredibly shallow, and maybe give him an arc where he learns from that.
I was going to add more to this a lot more but a misclick or some kind of tumblr goof caused this to he published half-finished instead of saving it to my drafts, so eventually I'll make another post elaborating on these ideas. For now though I'm curious to see what everyone thinks, and their own takes on Noob. Is he a waste of screen time? Did you guys scrap him in your AUs? Did yall forget about him? Let me know.
