#tangled asks

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We got to do something about the Varigo obsession. Wean these users off Varian for a bit while speedballing uknighted dream into their brains

help i always miss asks from like fucking months ago somehow this is from march. so true. you guys know i only started drawing varigo to indoctrinate you into ukd right. I just got too attached and now im stuck here

[finnoky]

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Tangled ask game!

🔮 Something you wish had happened in the series?

I wish... Cass had a better reason to take the moonstone. (Like just one, set in stone reason that’s made sense with her character rather than what she got given.) I also would have liked her to own her role as the ‘bad guy’ in the story, no “Am I the Bad Guy?” But an acceptance that she isn’t exactly seen as good by many people for her actions - sure, she can believe her motivations as for the best, but recognise that she is the bad guy to others. Maybe have her think that they will understand she is still good once she had claimed victory.

Also a proper redemption for her (like showcase her feeling guilty for some of her harsher actions properly, but be tricked into thinking it’s the only was she can win and get her point across. Rather than have her smile while attacking people)

📺 Another show you’d like to see have a cross over with Tangled?

I’m not a massive fan of crossovers, unfortunately! But, I like Of Rocks and Robots, by @rocksandrobots which is a crossover with Big Hero 6! Which is a really neat concept and something I read through a lot.

💎 Favourite AU?

👉👈 I really love AUs that delve into Dark kingdom lore (as well as brotherhood Varian) so is it rude to put the DKAU on here? (I swear there is more coming to it... I just need to actually write it properly...)

🧠 Random Tangled Headcanon you have?

Eugene was the one who introduced hot chocolate to Varian! Chocolate was expensive to buy before they got access to the castle kitchen, Varian hardly ever got it in bar form, let alone hot chocolate! So during a midnight kitchen raid, Eugene introduced Varian to Hot Cocoa and changed his world forever

📚 Favourite Tangled Fanfic?

Just one?? But there’s so many.... Ah oh well, here’s a few I like!

Let’s kick off with one that surprises nobody! - Alchemy Lullaby by @glacecakes which I occasionally throw Ideas on to. I am a massive fan of fluffy content and love reading the plot that Glace has come up with for Dadgene and Baby Varian... I’m so stoked

Plus Est En Vous by @space--butterflies ! Space really kills every fic she writes, her Season 2 rewrite (where Varian Replaces Hookfoot) was amazing but I’m so invested into PEEVS lore right now and always get very hyped to read the chapters as they come out! (It’s a season 3 rewrite where Cass is done right and it’s just reall *chefs kiss*)

Constant Companion is about TTS but from Ruddigers perspective! It’s really sweet, in my opinion, and such a delightful story to read. Lighthearted yet can also shatter your heart at the same time. I’ve found it a really fun read and really enjoy it!

Blood of my Brother -BOY just? Amazing? It’s about Hector breaking Varian out of prison and taking the kid under his wing. I LIVE for brotherhood content so this checks all the boxes for me and is just written beautifully. I can’t wait to keep reading it not gonna lie!

[honeyxmonkey]

For @30-2-50-feral-hogs

Varian wasn't expecting to meet Eugene's dad. He didn't even know Eugene had one of those. He also wasn't expecting for Edmund to already know his dad, either.

"Edmund, I want you to meet someone." Quirin gestured for Varian to join him.

Varian slowly put his book down and went over to where his dad was talking to the guy in the black armor. To say he was wary of the guy would be an understatement. He'd just watched two of his dad's friends get mind controlled by Cassandra. And he wasn't to sure of what to make of the guy. He was big and rather intimidating.

"This is my son, Varian." Quirin put an arm around Varian's shoulder. "He's-"

"Varian?" Edmund suddenly took on an expression of recognition. "Oh, yes. Eugene's told me alot about you. Glad to finally meet one of his friends."

"Uh... sorry but um, what exactly has Eugene told you about me?" And why hasn't he mentioned you? He didn't say that part out loud. So, Eugene knew this guy too?

"Just that you're one of his best friends and he sees you like a little brother." Edmund smiled. "It's good to know you two are watching out for eachother."

Varian honestly didn't know what to say. He knew that he and Eugene were friends but he never imagined Eugene would see him as anything more, let alone as a brother.

"He said that?" Varian was vaguely aware of the goofy grin quickly making it's way onto his face.

"Yes, he did." Edmund looked back at Quirin. "And I also know that you've made your father quite proud of you, Varian."

Quirin nodded and smiled at his son. He was truly proud of everything Varian had done to better himself. The lengths he's gone to, to gain back the kingdoms trust, and how much he's grown as a person since Rapunzel freed Quirin from the amber. "I am."

If Varian's smile could get any wider, it did. The look on his son's face made his heart melt. It had been awhile since he'd last seen Varian smile so much and it was a welcome sight.

"Oh, hey dad." Eugene's voice suddenly came from behind Varian making the teen jump in surprise.

Varian spun around to see a smirk on Eugene's face. He quickly put two in two together.

"Wait a second, you're Eugene's dad?"

Edmund nodded with a confused look, like him being Eugene's dad was common knowledge.

"So," Eugene leaned as much as he could on Varian without knocking him over. "Getting acquainted with the best teenager in the world, I see."

Varian pushed Eugene's arm off him. "You flatter me."

"Can't help it. Team Awesome, remember?"

Varian smiled again. "Right, Team Awesome."

"Well, it was nice to meet you Varian." Edmund gave him one last smile before leaving to talk to Rapunzel.

"You're dad's pretty nice."

Eugene nodded. "Yeah, he is. He's not quite all there but he's a good guy."

"Hey, Eugene? I'm glad you finally found your family."

Eugene pulled him into a side hug. "I already have a family. He just got added into it."

His words touched Varian to the core. He was part of Eugene's family? The question became an answer as he let it stew in his thoughts for awhile. He was part of Eugene's family.

I love Team Awesome. Sue me

[aziofgrim]

The lantern scene is so good bc it's like: Rapunzel: *watching the lanterns* :) Eugene: *watching Rapunzel* :) and it's so pretty and adorable!!!!!

Akdbandnsndxndjf yesss- I rewatched it recently and just- they're adorable ;-;

[whitecatindisguise]

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Favourite AU:

Moon!Varian, as well as AUs where Varian is included in season 2.

Favourite fanfic:

Gosh, I can't choose one. I love Walls of Stone by @justanotherhopelessfanartist, all the stories by @brushes-of-sage, @mycove 's He Needs Me, @tangled-lover-165 's Rapunzel and the Secret of the Scroll (I hope I'm remembering the title right. It's 2AM and I have no energy to go and check), Of Rocks and Robots (which is an amazing crossover between TTS and BH6), YOUR fanfics, and many many more.

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I dunno bro. Seems like it might 🥴

No. Nope. No. It totally doesn’t already have 3k words. It’s just an illusion. A bad dream.

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JAHSBDB sorry for asking you another question, UKD kids have been plaguing my brain like lil bugs :pp question though, what would Ryder's dynamic be with Alina, Ryder and Ilmari? Are they are similar in a sense or is he more close than one than another?

NEVER APOLOGIZE EVER I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE ASK LITERALLY ANYTHING ABT MY OCSSSSS <3333

To be completely honest it rlly depends on the point in the timeline…..starting by the time the twins are like 13 to when theyre like 21 all of their relationships are. Kinda fucked 😭😭😭😭 But umm starting with childhood…ofc since theyre twins, alina and ryder have always been pretty much joined at the hip LOL. Alina ofc was very shy, timid, and kind of a crybaby when she was little, and she hated being alone, so since ryder was much more sociable and eccentric hed usually speak up for her and look after her.

they slept in the same bed from like. Birth to probably about 8 years old. For the first like 6 years of their life it was honestly concerning to find them separated LOL. That being said I dont think they’re Closer to each other than they are to ilmari— as soon as ilmari came along the twins were so fascinated by them. they ADORED them and would always follow them around like little ducklings. it took ilmari a while to warm up but they very quickly became a little trio. they obviously still squabble like any siblings would but theyre all incredibly close

I dont think ryder clicks as well w ilmari as alina does, though…at least not at first. alina bonded with ilmari sooner than ryder did because of his more quiet and softspoken demeanor— ryder on the other hand highkey overwhelmed them at first 😭😭 He was obviously a huge chatterbox as a kid and ilmari was VERY put off by that. ryder did quickly learn to quiet down and approach them more gently, though, and things ended up going just fine

alina and ryders roles kinda switched when they were around 11 and allie rlly started to take note of the pedestal the court put ryder on + the pressure it put on him. alina has always been more disregarded especially Because of that shy nature he had when when she was little— he fits right into that “timid little girl who needs protected by her strong older brother” thing going on, which is why he rebels against it extra hard and refuses to show any emotion but Rage for a while. ryder on the other hand is the #1 overthinker and people pleaser and is 100% willing to change himself to please others…so he masks HEAVY to become that “perfect prince” the court expects him to be. unfortunately that leads to him disregarding the things that actually matter like yk. The people he’s meant to lead

Long story short as ryder falls deeper into this hole and his internalized ableism gets Worse, he starts to look down on alina, seeing him as incredibly reckless and undiplomatic. allie feels really betrayed, since they promised they’d always face everything together…so in tandem he sees ryder as rlly stuck up and pompous. the thing is they’re both right…they’re both on opposite ends of an extreme and they need Balance, but they don’t realize that until they’re finally out of their teen years LOL

Ryder and ilmari are… a little more complicated. ryders always REALLY really looked up to ilmari. they seem like everything He wants to be— calm, collected, calculated, always knows what to do all the time….. but they’re. Not really that. and the truth is ilmari admires HIM for the opposite reasons— they wish they could be more empathetic and effortlessly understanding of people. but unlike ryder, ilmari sees the cracks in his persona and his struggles,,, and they worry. but at the same time ilmari is…kind of a mess

They want to feel Useful and Needed but they also tend to distance themselves away from conflict. they leave the nest RIGHT as alina and ryder’s relationship starts going downhill— and ilmari was very much a grounding force for the two of them so it makes things. Much worse. Worst thing is, they dont tend to think about the fact that like…people actually care abt them and want to hear how theyre doing so aside from a few gifts and visits home occasionally they don’t,,,, really write,,, or anything for that matter. this is rough on both the twins. alina gets REALLY pissed off at them but ryder just tends to blame himself…he thinks he did something to upset them 💔

MENTAL ILLNESSES ASIDE THOUGH /silly theyre my little trio,,, and i dont talk abt them all together enough but its mostly Because ilmari is so absent😭😭 Emotionally unavailable older sibling core,,,,, but since they were little they’ve always been inseparable. the twins have a Special bond because well…they’re twins. but they don’t love each other any more or less than ilmari. thats why ilmari leaving right at their worst years hits them so hard!!!

Everyone thinks ilmari is the straight man of the group btw but it’s ryder. its 100% ryder. Ilmari is insane but just in that stoic dry humor adira-type way

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How would the tangled kids react to Varian and Cassandra’s villain arc? Also I love your art 😊

AJDJDJDGG OKAY SO. this is SO fucking good but ive been putting it off for so long bc i wanted to draw something to go with it but i’ve just. never figured out what so inevitably i’m just gonna answer it on its own

this subject in particular is SO FUNNY for me to think about bc i think the kids’ reactions depend a lot on how their parents talk abt it and both of them handle it in COMPLETELY different ways. like uknighted dream is pretty open abt it (obviously they give the incredibly watered down kid-safe version) and they kinda use it as a learning experience? like in very vague terms.

its kinda just like

alina: oh why are you and mama cass fighting in your drawing :(

rapunzel: <:) well yknow how if you shake a bottle of soda, when you open it it explodes everywhere?? well sometimes when we bottle up our feelings and don’t do anything with them or talk to someone we trust, they end up getting all shaken up in there, and eventually theyll explode! mama cass and i used to have a lot of trouble talking about our feelings, and because of all those emotions that got bottled up and shaken around in there, we found it hard to properly communicate with each other at all. but then we realized how much we really cared about each other and how we really wanted to make things work, so we learned to be more honest about how we felt and how to communicate with one another without everything just ‘exploding’, so to speak. and thats why we always teach you how to manage your big emotions, does that make sense? :)

on the other hand VARIAN? literally could not care less. at least not with the ud kids. he still has one of his wanted posters that hugo grabbed as a “souvenir” on their trip, and the automaton he used to fight rapunzel? its still in the corner of his lab and he pulls it apart regularly for scrap metal.

ryder will be wandering around his lab when hes like 7 and hes like “uncle vari whats that”

varian: that’s an automaton buddy

ryder: did you make it?

varian: yeah

ryder: what’s it for

varian: well nothing now it’s just spare parts. but i actually made it a long time ago to fight your mom

ryder: which one

varian: both actually. and technically your dad. but mostly rapunzel

ryder: oh

ryder: did you win?

varian: no it wasnt really that kind of fight. nobody won

ryder: oh that’s boring

ryder: can i try it

varian: absolutely not

when emery comes along though varian is like “okay we are Never addressing this again” bc em thinks varian is SO cool and varian actually cares So much about his newfound image. (very stupid of him for that to be his main priority obviously bc emery is like 4 and if she knew what he did she would probably just be like “okay. can i have apple juice”)

anyways yeah ilmari and the twins don’t really tell her anything either because they don’t really see it as anything worth telling her about, especially in comparison to way more important things like the fact that lance will sometimes sneak you dessert before dinner if you can convince eugene he has a gray hair without him catching on. so obviously emery grows up fairly unaware of anything varian has done but the defining factor is that shes constantly hearing about it out of context and is just left to struggle with that enigma.

like you know the experience of being like 14 years old at the family thanksgiving and you get to sit at the grown ups table for the first time and hear about all their weird beef and inside jokes and also hear your aunt mention out of context that hey your dad went to prison once bc that’s LITERALLY what the tangled kids experience in relation to their parents’ pasts. like the twins forgot about most of what varian told them by the time they grew up, they knew the watered down version of what happened with cass but they never knew the little details right. so they’ll just be hanging out playing checkers together while the adults are sitting across the room chatting over drinks and varian jokes “oh man its just like that one time cass kidnapped me” and all the kids immediately whip their heads around like “WHAT?”

this is ESPECIALLY true with emery who’s parents are notorious for having more insults for each other than pet names. em could just be reading by the fireplace late one night and var and hugo come out for a midnight snack and just start talking like

hugo: sometimes i think maybe objectively we should be evil again. like just for fun

varian: honestly. i took over the kingdom once i could do it again no problem

hugo: you’re probably actually strong enough to do it yourself now 🥺

varian: you want to kiss me so bad it makes you look stupid

emery: ….right so are we just gonna brush over the “again” part or did you guys forget i was here

varian also eventually realizes that by doing this he is replicating EXACTLY how quirin used to be secretive of his own past and how like one day varian just suddenly had to grapple with the knowledge that his dad who baked pies and fed the apple peels to his raccoon probably had a kill count. and obviously varian is absolutely distraught over this revelation

“HUGO HELP ME. I think im becoming my dad” “oh. well hey it happens to all of us it could be worse. besides your dad is hot so like i see it as a win win” “What” “what?”

i should probably also mention that ilmari knew about cass’s villain arc long before they even MET and ilmari actively tries to use this against her when they’re like 13. like “yeah well you cant tell ME what to do i’m gonna tell alina and ryder you tried to stab mom when you were in your 20s” (it doesn’t work btw)