#team green

[lalalalalatechno]

Team Green, Ser Dustin is the MVP of the season.

[tessarionbestgirl]

Helaena’s death was so strange to add in, since they diverged from the book so much her death feels meaningless. Like I understand you don’t want Maelor to die but then you leave Jaehaera? Obviously she can’t get to Dreamfyre but you want to let your dragon to die? And then the others, the tptwp doesn’t come from the greens line, so how does she, simply living peacefully with her children and chickens, cause that?

Aren’t prophecies not meant to be clear cut in this setting? They could’ve still made her a dragon dreamer but left it ambiguous. Still, I enjoyed the little emotions Helaena showed, just wished we saw more of her hate, anger, and grief.

It has been a long time a death in television hit me the way her death did. And I am not talking about making me crying. No. Is like a emotional hangover or a form of narrative grief. It stays quiet, heavy, and hard to shake off inside of me.

So you bet that I also have conflicted thoughts about the whole thing.

Ryan talked about how he struggles to adapt the material in four seasons. So putting Helaena death now is rushed. Because meanwhile in the book is a culmination of all her gifts and her abuse. And Jaehera is not in Kingslading.

Here in the show she is a dreamer. She saw last episode all the possibilities for her future and her kid. And together with her mental state because people ignored but Helaena loves nature and her kids and Rhaenyra took that away from her.. And what lead to break her completely, being tortured, Rhaenyra took the last piece of autonomy she had. It was to much for her. It was the only way out she saw for Maelor and herself.

And that is the thing about suicide. Because as outsider you can't not avoid the feeling this person had so many wonderful things yet experience in life. You can't avoid feeling a level of unfairness that this this person left behind people that were dependent on them.

And this translates into Helaena too. There is so much about Helaena I wish to know. How she end up at weirdwoods? She has any connections with Alys? I wish to have seen scenes with her and Aegon, Aemond and Daeron. I wish to see her fighting for her autonomy.

Jaehera is so important to her as well. But depression does that to love. It is like a parasite. It strangles and drowns any voice of love. So she can't hear anymore. Is only pain. Is only hopeless.

And then there is the cherry on top and I think death could be see as meaningless. Because it was a cliff Ranger. We didn't saw the direct aftermath of that. Just Rhaenyra barely reaction and closing the window.

But listening to Ramin Djwardi musical composition of her death. It does give me hope. Because the music is sad but most of all is hunting. If Ryan play his cards right. Her death will hunt all characters involved.

Rhaenyra killed Helaena. Sure she didn't pushed her out of the window but she still responsible for it. Same as Maelor in her belly. Same as Jaehaerys. So I need to see Aegon and Aemond reactions. I need to see smallfolk reaction to Rhaenyra killing mother and 2 of her sons. I need to see Alicent finally spiraling down.

If it doesn't happennin s4. To me that would be truly meaningless.

[tessarionbestgirl]

who and what is the shepherd?

Shepherd is a rail-thin, one-handed old beggar turn prophet with an unknown past who preaches doomsday warnings to the suffering smallfolk of King's Landing.

His fiery sermons ultimately spark the violent riot known as the Storming of the Dragonpit, leading an enraged mob to slaughter several Targaryen dragons.

I know some arguing that he should have show up already this season. But I think Helaena death is what will spark the actual smallfolk uprising.

[warpig8248]

Here's the primary issue with House of the Dragon....it's written and created with the assumption that the viewer has read Fire and Blood, and therefore has an understanding of how the story should go, and assumes that you know and understand certain story beats and characters....

However...

The show cherry picks what narrative points it's decides to sprinkle in, while telling a wildly different story...so different in fact that it can no longer be classified as an adaptation and forces the viewer to do all of the heavy lifting on behalf of the show. Only the show offers no incentive or payoff for any of the viewers willing to grant it this grace.

It's fundamentally a bad show. Regardless of its accuracy to Fire and Blood.

[sillyzombiedelusion]

I didn't watch this season of hotd because I couldn't bear any more butchery of Fire and Blood in general and The Greens specifically but I'd love to know what those of you who did watch thought of this season 👀 were there any particularly bad moments that stood out? Anything that actually seemed like a good adaptation of the source material?

[the-daily-dreamer]

Grieving like a widow. Rest in peace my beloved Ormund Hightower

[aegoneggon]

So what are your Where’s Vhagar? predictions

I’m thinking she’s just hanging out at the isle of faces and Alys is doing some Etsy witch stuff to nullify her and Aemonds connection for the time being so Aemond wouldn’t be able to leave her