#terrible takes

[thestudentempanada]

In January 18, 2024, Faculty at UPenn published an article announcing the formation of their Faculty for Justice in Palestine chapter.

A fascinating excerpt from the article:

So PFJP…

does not believe Antisemitism and Islamophobia are discrete forms of racism that overlap and interconnect.

Believes Judaism and Islam are… the same religion?????

I have so many questions.

Also allow me to note that antisemitic bigotry predates the advent of Islam by over a thousand years, so there’s that. There’s also the awkward fact that early Muslim conquests were rooted in antisemitism.

[minor-dot-inconvenience]

”Its difficult to argue with a smart person, it is impossible to argue with a stupid person.”is a quote sticks with me whenever I argue with an Epic the Musical fan

im not saying some of ya are stupid… but I am saying some of ya are stupid

some Epic the Musical fans will just have the WORST takes and think they’re Jimmy Neutron. Like someone tried telling me Eurylochus was at fault for the men turning into pigs because he was too busy FLIRTING WITH CIRCE.

FLIRTING WITH CIRCE.

I WANT THAT PERSON DEAD.

okay im being dramatic and hyperbolic obviously but if you actually think that I need you banned from ever touching a device ever again.

and then theres epic fans where if you don’t spoon feed them every piece of information they’ll just think it never happened. Even when it happened they’ll deny it. Or they’ll just make shit up.

OR— worst of all, they’ll bring up shit from The Odyssey. Which is a whole other thing than Epic. If im debating you about EPIC I don’t wanna hear the Odyssey come out your dirty mouth. I don’t wanna hear nothin’ bout Anticlea drowning herself, nothing about Ctimene (especially since she’s only mentioned ONCE), NOT SHIT. If you mention the Odyssey while we’re debating epic and we’re not comparing the two medias your take is invalid. Sorry not sorry.

Oh and don’t even get me started on how they downplay EVERYTHING. “Eurylochus is a big back that wanted food even when they were almost home” and they were starving to death. “The captain ONLY killed 6 men” yeah jackass thats 6 men too many when his whole job is to bring everyone back alive. “Eurylochus is a hypocrite because he should’ve saved the men from Circe” IM GONNA HIT YOU WITH MY CAR.

the epic fandom is so bad at takes it hurts. Like occasionally ill be like “okay I see your point.” Other times epic fans will say some bullshit like “Eurylochus actually caused the death of the 550 men because he whispered the name and location of their home to the cyclops and also took a piss by Circe’s palace so the pigs were his fault too” and then look at me like this.

“Polites would whoop Eurylochus’s ass in the underworld” don’t let me catch you.

[terriblecotrktakes]

This fandom is huge and yet no one in it gives Amos Byrne the credit he deserves as an intricately created foil character for Dr. Saltweather without whom Saltweather's repentance arc is empty and means nothing. Like, the Borlath and Petrello coding is right there

[theconstitutionisgayculture]

You guys ready to see the absolute worst take on taxes I've ever seen? Really? You sure?

Okay then...

There you go

[pluckingstarsoffmoontrees]

This is the most momentously stupid take I have ever seen.

Sure, CLAMP is going to throw their entire story, plot, narrative, foreshadowing, themes and previously established characterisation for some random Mary Sue that spontaneously popped out of the ether.

Even putting aside the fact that they’re big believers in The One True Love, it’s just terrible writing.

Also, Subaru and Arashi have interacted for approximately 2 panels in the entire manga.

But sure, they’re going to hook up together.

[its-our-paris]

I am baffled by how many posts on here I see which go alone the lines of "This character from this media is so toxic and acts so awful, and this situation is so wrong on so many levels, how can people justify liking this". This often goes hand in hand with trashing the author for not realising what terrible people their characters are, which must mean the author is a terrible person, too. The last one of these was someone smugly having a go because JK Rowling wrote Harry being a moody teenager, annoyed at Cho crying all the time, when he's the one also losing his shit all the time and dealing with anger issues in the same book. Because god forbid Harry, a fictional 15-year-old boy, shows a lack of maturity that's actually pretty spot on for his character in that moment. No, no, it's JK Rowling being a terrible writer and a bad feminist.

Jesus H. Christ.

How has it become too difficult for people to comprehend that the point of telling stories is to hold a mirror up to society? To show the good and the bad, the ugly as well as the pretty. A story is NOT A FUCKING INSTRUCTIONAL MANUAL on how to be a good person living a perfect, virtuous life. Because that would be boring as fuck.

We safely live through terrible situations by consuming media in which those situation happen. Authors are not immoral, awful people for writing flawed characters.

[anarchic-miscellany]

I'm one of 8 people who will defend "The New Mutants", because you can see the layers of studio Tomfuckery which went on in it. The film isn't good, but it's got a great core idea: the director wanted to make "Nightmare on Elm Street 3: The Dream Warriors", and the studio went: "Horror won't sell, make a Marvel." So reshoots. Trailer for "It" comes out. "Oh man, horror is BIG! Make it a horror!" I can then only imagine the director sarcastically fawning: "WHAT A BRILLIANT IDEA! I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!" So reshoot after reshoot after reshoot happens.

And yet, the core concept, when the film comes out, is good! 5 kids with super powers locked in a building, confronting their nightmares and each other. The whole thing is encapsulated by the scene between Da Costa and Cannonball: The former is doing laundry, and about to throw his shirt away, the latter notices, asks if he is going to do that, and the former gives it to him with a smile like it's nothing. Done. Character's established. LITERALLY the next scene: "That's Guthrie, he grew up poor, that's Da Costa, he's rich." Come the fuck on, movie! The tone's fucked, from layers of meddling. Like, had you told me it was about a nightmare bear doing battle with a fire man, a human cannonball, a teenage werewolf lesbian and her girlfriend with dream walker powers and a Russian magician and her pet pterodactyl, I'd be like: "FUCK YEAH!" But then, the tone is "we're a Marvel movie and a horror movie and a romance" Fuck me. I defend it, I'm one of 8 to do so.

[masschase]

No but, canonically, Playa died on the boat and the rest of the series is just dying dreams that start off in line with their real life but get more and more bizarre as their brain deteriorates right?

Right?