thekkm reblogged your post and added:
This gets the same reply as always.
The Joker is considered a darker villain than Dr. Wily.
Dr. Wily is responsible for more death than the Joker.
It’s in how it’s portrayed, not the actions specifically.
All the actions you mentioned from the games are ridiculous, fantastic, unrealistic, with no dwelling on the consequences.
Different from seeing him directly take sadistic joy on forced paralysis.
First, I never compared Eggman to the Joker. Second, several of his actions were dwelt on plenty.
When Eggman fired the missile at Station Square, the game treated that with the appropriate amount of gravity with a sense of dread complete with creepy music. Eggman even acted more sinister in that moment than usual. It was made very clear that Eggman intended to blow up a city full of people.
Then when Eggman (nearly) killed Sonic in Sonic Adventure 2, it was treated very seriously. Eggman gloated, Amy cried, and the doctor even had a brief moment of silence for his (supposedly) fallen enemy.
And the body paralysis thing in the comics isn’t very different to what he does to all the small animals he stuffs in his robots. The only difference is that his paralyzed minions in the comics aren’t used as a fuel source (maybe).
Oh, but is it different because the little critters in the games aren’t fully “sentient”? Well, those Wisps certainly were, if Sonic and Tails’ interactions with Yacker are anything to go by. But those little aliens got it worse because in addition to being stuck in a dark claustrophobic space, their energies were being sapped to power Eggman’s machines.
And just look at Eggman in that Colors screenshot. Is that not utter glee he’s expressing?
And just to make myself perfectly clear, I do not think Eggman should be treated seriously all the time. I mean, just look at him! He calls himself “Eggman” for crying out loud! lol
All I was saying was that, as the series’ primary villain, Eggman has sunken to pretty big lows, has his share of truly dark moments and has clearly expressed sinister intentions.
Also, while a lot of my examples were treated fairly lightly in the context of the games, they can certainly be interpreted as being very dark.
The Sonic series is very silly overall, and it would be even sillier to pretend it isn’t. But even the writers of both the games and the comics know that a good villain needs to be intimidating at least some of the time, and since Eggman is the villain, he’s going to be portrayed as such sometimes.
You can’t just handwave everything truly sinister Eggman has ever done in the games and expect everyone to see him as “all goofy all the time” (though Sega certainly tries to, it seems). A good villain should have at least a little depth and provide a sense of urgency, and you can’t get that if he’s treated as an affable clown 24/7.
Anyway, I’m probably wasting my energy on you, as I’m sure you’ve had this argument plenty of times with people who are probably more articulate than me.
And if you actually read this, sorry for all the text you had to wade through. (sorry to my followers too) ^^;
