#thw slander

[nartml]

Httyd 2 Hiccup, after defeating a guy who can mind control dragons to do his bidding, and who made Toothless kill his dad: "We are the voice of peace, and bit by bit we will change the world. You see, we have something they don't. Oh, sure, they have armies, and they have armadas, but we have...our dragons!"

THW Hiccup, after defeating a goofy Viggo-rip off in a hilariously easy battle, no casualties suffered: "Eh, yeah, nvm boys. Time to pack it up, the world fr is too dangerous for dragons rn, we'll have to take a raincheck on our so-far incredibly successful revolution and cross our fingers people will just magically become accustomed to the dragons, which I've made disappear off the face of the earth"

[lilliths-matori-blog]

Toothless doesn't give a shit about Hiccup in the Hidden World. Where he was once Hiccup's best friend, now he couldn't care less if Hiccup died. Toothless might be stupid (in THW at least), but he (arguably) isn't an idiot. He knows what happens when humans get struck by lightning; he witnessed Hiccup get strike by it firsthand. So why does he use his newfound lightning ability to kill those Deathgrippers? Is he really that confident in the flight-suits ability to shield Hiccup from fucking lightning?? Keeping in mind that Hiccup doesn't have a visor or anything to protect his eyes. There's a reason I gave Viggo's lightning-suit a visor.

[cloverofhope]

We probably should've known the hidden world wasn't going to be a good movie when the first words weren't "this is Berk"

[thecosmicmap]

Random person: So Grimmel killed all Night Furies?

Hiccup: yes.

Random person: How do you know? Did he have any proof, like a Night Fury hide or something?

Hiccup: Well, no but-

Random person: any proof at all? He had none?

Hiccup: he had facts about Night Furies! Like they can’t survive in the cold-

Random person: isn’t Berk really cold? You said so yourself, “twelve degrees north of hopeless and a few degrees south of freezing to death. Located solidly on the meridian of misery.”

Hiccup: H-how do you know that? Anyway! He also said Night Furies can’t fly long distances-

Random person: how can that be? Their bodies are built for long flights! And hasn’t Toothless flown from Berk to Dragon’s Edge in like, two days? Didn’t that take Gobber a week?

Hiccup: Have you been following me-

Random person: silence.

Hiccup: … he also said Furies mate for life.

Random person: and? He got 1/3 right and suddenly he killed all the Night Furies ever? Do you know how stupid that sounds? A single man and his six- count ‘em, six! Deathgrippers are able to take out an entire species of elusive, intelligent dragons who hunts at night?

Hiccup: he lured them out with Light Furies-

Random person: still doesn’t change the fact that there’s probably thousands of Night Furies and it’s impossible for one man to kill every last one- and how do you know the Light Furies didn’t just run away when they were released?

Hiccup: …

Random person: you want to continue this argument? I got plenty more.

[obscene-beans]

Thinking about the “who died and made you chief” quip in the hidden world when I’m trying to write and now I’m angry

[10blue10]

Don’t wanna bother OP with a reblog but this post:

https://www.tumblr.com/why-animals-do-the-thing/745962196607107072?source=share

Made me think of the whole “dragons belong in the wild/need to be free!” argument of THW and its stans (if you’re wondering why I’m bringing up a movie that’s 5 years old, hi, you must be new here.)

TL;DR an Eurasian eagle owl named Flaco was ‘rescued’ from the Bronx Zoo by a vandal and people petitioned to give him his ‘freedom’, until he died by flying into a building. At which point they discovered he was already horribly sick from eating diseased pigeons. If he hadn’t been ‘freed’, he would have lived much longer.

So anyway now I’m thinking once again about the dragons who were forced to leave behind a safe place with food and healthcare and things to do beyond surviving, all so they could have ‘freedom’ (which they never lacked in the first place.) All so they could live in the wild, because the wild is obviously always a benevolent paradise and not a vicious, bloody, death filled endless struggle for survival.

[hiccupbutpurple]

I love that Hiccup had a whole episode of rtte dedicated to reminding him to makes plans and not act impulsively out of vengeance or other emotions.

I love that he was the one to remind Stoick that they need to make plans when he struggled with his fears.

And the Hiccup in The Hidden World appears.

(Sure he kinda did a similar thing to Stoick when his fear took over but eventually Stoick listened to reason and he didn’t make any truly dramatic decisions, Gobber and the others were there to remind Hiccup to make a plan. The others could’ve done more but you can’t tell me Hiccup would’ve made such a stupid choice just because of his emotions after the things he learnt. The part where Gobber was like ‘I feel like I’m always asking you this question, but is there an actual plan’ just proves how out of touch it is because Hiccup has learnt to use his brain even when there is little time to make solid plans.

Yes Hiccup can act impulsively from time to time but after rtte, those times had solid reasons and were not decisions that were ‘let’s leave our island and leave ourself completely vulnerable without making any sort of plan for what we are going to do’ levels of stupid.)

Rtte Hiccup would be horrified at what THW Hiccup does.

[misscoolisback123]

I now see why people are pissed off at the third HTTYD movie. I saw it in theaters at the time, and I felt like something was off about it, but I didn't pay too much attention to it. Then I saw the image for spin-off for it, and I thought that it had something to do with another franchise, or it was an original series. It's one for Hiccup and Astrid to have children and descendants, but it felt so forced. Not only that, but the second Christmas movie completely forgot about the fact that his kids actually met Toothless, the light fury, and their offspring. My Headcanon is that over time, the descendants will migrate to other countries and marry people from various countries. Over time, though, dragons will no longer be a thing. The dragons no longer existing after Hiccup and Astrid have children seems way too early. The dragons will still exist, but they'll be a secret. I saw this done in a fanfic in which Belle from BATB finds Toothless and befriends him. Hiccup and the rest of his clan different feel the same. There was no reason for Hiccup to let Toothless and the other dragons go.