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Tears of Tlāloc
“His realm is above and below. His four aspects dwell within the mountains. His eyes are like deep wells, and there is no end to them. He wields flaming serpents, and his bellows herald the rain. He is the earthen one, known as Tlāloc. One may still feel his presence in the misty air.”
May I have a fun fact in this trying time?
So, uh, I am out of town, so I wasn't planning on answering any Fun Facts, or even being on Tumblr today, but I will try to give a quick one to make this time less trying. So, you know in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, that Namor is from a place called Talokan? Well, Today You Learned that's based on a place from actual Aztec mythology, Tlalocan!
Named for Tlaloc, the Aztec god of rain and storms, Tlalocan is his level of heaven (Aztec afterlife has Thirteen Heavens, actually!). The idea is that those who died from drowning, struck by lightning, or from diseases associated with Tlaloc, or, I imagine, being sacrificed to him, went to this afterlife.
It was a place of abundance, full of greenery and plentiful food. I don't know if it was underwater, as the Marvel movie depicts it, but I don't think it's a bad interpretation.
A version of it appears, I think, in the Obsidian & Blood trilogy by Aliette de Bodard?
I have seen many posts circulating around that stated the Flower-Feather Clan is a Pyro tribe/we're lacking an Anemo tribe... and to be honest, I find myself taking an issue with it?
I have two suggestion:
1. The Flower-Feather Clan IS an Anemo tribe, but with a Pyro twist due to a mythological origin.
Everything about Flower-Feather Clan screams anemo:
• Their ideology of freedom.
[Ifa's character story]
[Chain breaker weapon lore. Telling about the Flower-Feather Clan's founder, Lianca]
• They have a Saurian sub-species that can fly.
• They literally has 'feather' in their name.
• All the current playable members as in 5.6 are anemo.
"But- but Radaedan! The- the tribe's color is red! And- and their Wayob is Pyro! So surely-" Let me speak first bruh.
The Flower-Feather Clan has another name, Tlalocan, and it's probably inspired by the Aztec's Thirteen Heavens, where each level housed different gods. Tlalocan is likely taken from Ihuicoatl-Tlalocan, where the gods who dwelled in them are related to sexuality, rain and water (like Tlaloc, god of rain and thunder, where we get the name Tlalocan), and finally, wind.
You see Ehecatl there? Right, lock in on him. Because he's important here.
Ehecatl is the god of the wind. He's also another aspect of Quetzalcoatl, the god of life, light, wisdom, and the sun.
He's represented with the planet Venus. The two other gods represented by the planet Venus are Tlaloc (his ally and the god of rain) and Xolotl (psychopomp and his twin). So you get the Tlaloc-Quetzalcoatl's connection.
You see, Ehecatl is tasked with moving the sun with his wind. So he has a close connection with the sun too.
I'm still not done. This sun-wind duo is already referenced everywhere in Natlan, such as:
• Kachina's saying of encouragement for the Natlaneses people in the 5.3 AQ.
• Citlali's Signature Weapon's Passive name.
• Ifa and Xilonen have pink-cyan braids/accessory. I think it means to be a representation between Pyro and Anemo. Also, Xilonen's normal attack is named "Ehecatl's roar".
As for the in-game reason of why the Anemo tribe has a close Pyro association... maybe because the founder, Lianca, was an adoptive daughter of CL-08 "Priestesss of Floral Candles and Skyborne Feather", one of the Dragonlords and Xiuhcoatl's, the Pyro Sovereign, kin. Her draconic heritage might influenced her clan's elemental affiliation.
Also, the Qucusaurus's ancestors are said to be in the closest form with the mighty winged dragons.
It's just like other Saurians' archives, that often compare their ancestors with ancient dragons. The Koholasaurus one even straight up mention the Hydro Sovereign, so I believe the ancient dragons here that these saurians take their forms from may meant the other Sovereigns' vishaps or even the Sovereigns themselves. But Natlan Saurians have the Pyro twist in them. It makes sense, Natlan housed Phlogiston, the origin of all elements, so no wonder their dragons mimicked other elemental dragons.
2. You are bamboozled! I still think that the Flower-Feather Clan is the Anemo tribe, but you might bring up Vanessa's tribe, so...
I believe Vanessa's tribe is the missing Pyro tribe. I mean, hello, fiery red hair and their ancestress was Murata, the Lady of War? They're Pyro bruh. But in the spirit of the Sun-Wind duo, it's kind of poetic that the Pyro tribe was stranded and finally made their home in Mondstadt, the nation of Anemo.
That's it for now. There are probably more so feel free to add.
Edit: ah yes indeed. In the Chain Breaker lore, we have the poetic words of Lianca that might explain the narrative purpose of the Anemo-Pyro connection the Flower-Feather Clan has:
Lianca was talking to Xbalanque here. The wind was stoking the fire of rebellion.
Natlan
My favourite nation/region
Children of Echoes (Nanatzcayan):
Related Characters: Xilonen (5 Star), Kacchina (4 Star)
South American
Element: Geo
Scions of the Canopy (Huitztlan):
Related Characters: Kinich (5 Star)
Unknown
Element: Dendro
Masters of the Night-Wind (Mictlan):
Related Characters: Citlali (5 Star), Ororon (4 Star)
Indigenous
Element: Cryo
Flower-Feather clan (Tlalocan):
Related Characters: Chasca (5 Star), Ifa
Unknown
Element: Pyro
Collective of Plenty (Teteocan):
Related Characters: Iansan, Varesa
Unknown
Element: Electro
People of the Springs (Meztli):
Related Characters: Mualani (5 Star
Polynesian
Element: Hydro
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NOTE: THIS IS BASED ON WHAT I KNOW SO FAR AND WHAT ETHNIC GROUP I THINK EACH OF THE TRIBES ARE BASED ON
All the Pretty Courses from Eternal Sun, Eternal Want Peijia You, HOYO-MiX
Tenoch Huerta behind the scenes of Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
First Appearance of Talocan in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever!!
First Appearance of Talocan in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever!!
It has been confirmed that Namor's underwater kingdom of Atlantis from Marvel Comics will be known to its inhabitants as "Talocan" in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever!
In Aztec mythology, the realm of Tlālōcān is ruled by the rain god Tlāloc and the water goddess Chalchiuhtlique.
MCU Namor's name has a new origin: "El Niño Sin amor", the boy without love. So naturally, I made an edit with the song "Man Without Love" from Moon Knight.
