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Not everyone thinks in a kind, selfless way like you
[TPN CHAPTER 127 SPOILERS]
Omg this chapter was really intense and interesting. I will be honest, I’m with both Norman and Emma in this, it really is a DIFFICULT scenario.
So, we learn that Musica has that power in her blood, so the obvious solution was that she shared this power with others, but surprise...
The Royal family killed Musica’s allies because this affects their power and influence, as Ray says...
Of course, Emma is shocked, so when Norman says...
I REALLY AGREE WITH THIS. Along the series, we have seen lots of characters thinking more about themselves than others, some even taking advantage of others.
And to be fair, there are people like that in real life, not everyone has the same good intentions that you have and we (unfortunately) need to assimilate that.
Then, Norman says that they need to kill both Musica and Sung-Joo, and that’s when I disagree with him and tbh I don’t understand that point? Why kill them? Because they can be an unexpected factor if they interfere in their plan? I’m assuming Norman don’t expect them to join to their plan (bc it’s a plan about eradicating their kind) so it’s better to eliminate the unexpected factor before it interferes.
Of course, Emma disagrees and says...
That’s exactly what I was thinking, why not give them a choice? A choice where they don’t need to eat human bodies. We know that’s a NECESSITY for them, but if there is a way where THAT could not be necessity anymore, then why not follow that path?
Then Norman says...
He’s right. And what is sadder it’s that there is evidence of this in chapter 51
(“SCREWED WITH RELATIONS, RACE AND SOCIETY ITSELF” now that makes more sense with this chapter)
Sung-Joo, a demon who DOESN’T EAT HUMAN FLESH, wants to get advantage of the human’s rebellion because now he has an opportunity to eat it again even though he DOESN’T NEED IT ANYMORE.
Also the part when he says “it’s because you never had a reason to eat them, Musica” he obviously have eaten human meat in the past, not anymore because that’s not longer a necessity, but if there is a chance to eat human meat again he will take it (we know that his religion is the one that holds him back in these circumstances).
So, when Norman says “Everyone has the same self-control?” “Every single demon would be able to resist their hunger?” The answer is no, and as Sung-Joo there are probably other demons that are part of his religion that would think like that. Humans have been their food for ages, that cannot change so easily.
However, what if there are demons that are willing to change. What if there ARE demons like that. The children would have to risk being eaten by them, being hunted again. There is no guarantee that there would not be more blood of children spilled and that’s exactly what Norman tries to prevent.
If I was there I would like to give a chance to the demons to change as Emma, however that means risking the life of my friends and family because I cannot be certain of the intentions of these demons, can I trust their word? Are they lying? Are they not? Can their nature, which is eat human meat something that they have been doing for ages, be suppressed? Can I put at risk the lives of SO many children but as well demons?
What can I do to protect my family?
Because these decisions would not only affect me but also everyone I love (Emma and Ray know that, especially with Yuugo’s story with the Glory Bell’s kids)
I understand Norman, I understand Emma and I’m really interested in what Ray thinks about this.
I really like the dilemma that the story is trying to construct
Unpopular opinion on Chapter 127 spoilers (see translated spoiler text at the end of this post)
I am actually happy that Norman is being realistic with Emma, even if it upsets her.
I love Emma, but I have always blamed Norman getting shipped to some extent on her unrealistic goal of getting even the babies out of Gracefield, and Norman unable to not cater to that wish.
We know it was unrealistic, even Emma admits it, as she later revised the plan to exclude those under 5, and come back for them later. That was a much more realistic and achieveable goal. It however required Gilda to confront her about it, but then Emma admitted that it was right.
I am sure Norman was also aware of the points, but he chose to never conftont Emma about it, and instead even sacrificed himself. It wasn’t healthy for him to do that, nor for Emma, and I couldn't help thinking that if Norman had been realistic with her from the start, rather than just accepting whatever she asked for, then they would have had time to avoid Norman's shipment.
Maybe not, but the thought kept bothering me, and I thought Norman loved Emma a bit too blindly for both of their sakes.
I am glad they didn't go with Ray's overly pessimistic plan either, but Emma's plan was also flawed, and Norman just refused to accept it. Then he got shipped...
I am happy for Norman's character development, and that he finally learned to say no to Emma. Norman's current approach may not be the ideal solution either, but they need to be able to look at the facts realisticly before they can come up with a different course. Emma has to accept reality, and I think it's really healthy for their relationship that now Norman is willing to be honest and realistic with her.
So yeah, I am glad that this is happening, this conflict has been built up for weeks now, and it is satisfying to see this happen.
Also, this makes me even happier as a Nor×Emma shipper, since I don't like any ships without tension and conflict. The most fun ones for me are the ones where they work through their conflict because they care about each other.
I love seeing those, they are so realistic and satisfying.
P.s.: For anyone who hasn't seen the trans, I pulled these from reddit, don't read if you don't want to be spoiled for chapter 127.
Page 1 Emma: Norman... I Emma: I don’t want to destroy/overthrow the demons Emma: I came to talk to you about that Emma: You can do THAT right? If you had Musica’s blood... Emma: No, even if you didn’t find Musica and the others, the blood of the king or royals... Emma: You could remake all the demon’s so they don’t have to eat humans right?
Page 2 Emma: Then we don't have to fight anymore! Emma: There's no need to fight! Emma: If we can just get the king and royals in place now out of their positions... Norman: It's no use Emma Norman: Even if it's not necessary for them to eat us, if they want to then they'll come and attack Norman: The king and royals have been doing it for 700 years. Norman: Giran and the others too. Humans do it too.
Page 3 Norman: If your favorite food told you "Don't eat me", would you just turn away and say "Okay, fine" Norman: Emma, you might be able to but can you believe everyone else would too? Norman: Do you think all demons will be able to feel sympathy for their food and resist their hunger? Norman: Who would have sympathy for food-- Emma: Then let's run away to the human world! Emma: Cross the seven walls and recreate the promise, let's make it so the demons won't chase us anymore and run away to the human world! Emma: We'll be taking humans away from demons but it's better than killing them all!
Page 4 Norman: Even though you don't know if the human world will accept us, or if it's safe? Emma: ! Norman: Emma Norman: The world isn't so kind you can always get what you want. Norman: I'll say it. Unless we kill off the demons, you'll never have a happy future smiling with your family.
SEE????
SEE????!!
SEEEE??????!!!!
I JUST KNEW THAT THIS SCENE BELOW,
WILL BE THE LAST TIME WE SAW THEM TOGETHER AS A TEAM FOR A LONG WHILE
I already say that last week.. *sobs*
Uuuuggghhhh
apparently i was a chapter behind lmfaoo but anyway
WHAT THE FUCK
of course the vertically placed eyes, must be related to mujika then
bRuuhh what she even dooooo
leave my girl aloooone
tHAT'S all she did? all she is?? man, that's not bad. you fucking scared me, shit.
emma pullin out the roll safe meme lmaoo
atta girl good idea
GOD
DAMN IT
WHY
tHANK YOU MY GIRL
um what
remember children, capitalism is the enemy.
AND THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT
is it just me or the whole idea of going to the human world being the ultimate solution is too good to be true? i mean.. even if they get rid of the Ratri Clan and redo the promise, who said its going to be a sacrifice-free one? they will ask for something in return, and i’m assuming its a flesh and blood one.
also i’m not hyped really with idea of the human world is the perfect heaven.. there is slavery, terrorism, war, human trafficking, organs trafficking, children harassment and the global warming for fuck’s sake. there is ugliness and so much selfishness all over the world.
that being said whether they cross the seven walls or stayed in the demon world and create a safe community for them, like Norman said ‘you can’t have everything your way’.. the question now is what would Emma sacrifice to have things her way? i hope not Ray or Norman again..
the spoilers of this chapter are killing me. And to be honest, Norman makes valid points. I really hope to God that the trio will stay together till the end, and to see Emma on the verge of tears breaks MY DAMN HEART