#trans-exclusionary

[reasonandempathy]

Thoughts on this? What is superstraight?

Superstraight or Supergay is a trans-exclusionary phrase to mean “not interested in trans [x].”  Which is...transphobic.

So a straight man would be interested in women.  As would lesbian women.

Superstraight men would only be interested in afab cis women, preferably/usually woman-presenting.  As would superlesbians.

[catladyterf]

Other TERF wlw:

I want to know if/how many of you relate to this.

When I'm talking with a woman I'm only recently acquainted with, whether I'm attracted to her platonically, romantically, sexually, or some combination of the three,

that attraction becomes at least 50 times more intense if she admits publicly to being a TERF.

Like

holy shit

she's confident enough in her ideology to proclaim it to the world, even in this world of idiot libfems that tell us we need to get raped until we turn bi, this world that wants pain and suffering and death for us, this world that hates us because we speak the truth and refuse to swallow their bullshit. And she's honest. She's not about to lie just to make a good impression or retain some libtard's respect. And maybe even she got a vibe that she could trust me enough to tell me that.

Like, damn. That's just incredibly attractive.

[similarsutures]

*scrolls through the “critical theory” tag* *sees a bunch of useless TERF bullshit* Why are you people like this?

[forevrdreamingofbetterthings]

I acknowledge what you are saying about how LP may not be that inclusive to trans or nb individuals. And at the same time I think that your comment takes attention away from the issue of this abortion ban being not grounded in facts but fiction. Look, in a perfect world we would never offend anyone ever, but in reality it's impossible to make everyone happy bc someone will always complain. The best is to look at the intentions of the words and practice a little bit of empathy bc no 1s perfect

[I’m prefacing my comments by stating that my brain fog and pain are pretty bad this AM so I apologize if this makes no sense]

My comments take NOTHING away from the original post. In fact, my comments were specifically intended to try to make it MORE INCLUSIVE so that ALL people for whom that post SHOULD address are included (i.e., all ppl with wombs). Isn’t that the most effective way to do this type of awareness work? Shouldn’t all ppl with wombs be included? Indeed, shouldn’t ALL ppl with wombs have easy access to abortions???? 

And I have no clue why you think it would have been so hard to include everyone in this poster bc that sounds like privileged laziness to the nth degree. Also, your “fact but fiction” comment is IRONIC bc the whole “LadyPartsJustice” thing is a bit of a fiction itself bc wombs and vulva are NOT lady parts, lots of men and nb ppl also have them. Can we stop making pro-choice activism so cissexist and trans/nb-exclusionary pls?? It’s 2k15 for fuck sakes!!!

I’m sure you meant well but honestly, I’m really disgusted by this ask. It’s clear to me that you’re totally fine with prioritizing cisgender women in this activist work while excluding non-binary folks and trans men and women. Seriously, no thanks….

[snarkytransman]

Radical feminists believe that feminism is by, for, and about females, regardless of gender identity or presentation. And that males, regardless of gender identity or presentation, can be allies and supporters but not active members of the movement. This isn't trans exclusionary; there are many trans women who are radical feminist allies (snowflakeespecial and atranspaige, among them), and many trans men as well (including me, but I prefer my anonymity).

[About this post]

Imagine there were a set of public toilets. If trans people were not allowed in, that would be trans-exclusionary. That’s a rarer situation; more often what happens is that trans men are told that they must use the ladies, and trans women are told that they must use the gents. 

When women’s spaces are inclusive of trans men and not trans women, and men’s spaces are inclusive of trans women and not trans men, this is trans-exclusionary.

And pushing for one thing does put pressure to prevent the alternative; when you expect to get into women’s spaces as a trans man, that is increasing pressure to exclude trans women from there, and to exclude trans men from men’s spaces.

by, for, and about females, regardless of gender identity or presentation

In other words, transition no real. However a trans man ~feels~ or ~presents~, no matter how many male pronouns he accessorises himself with, he’ll always be female. He can treat his dysphoria with HRT/surgery, and he can play-act, but he’ll always be female.

There are two ways that you can consider yourself:

You have a medical condition that means, biologically, you were never 100% female. You transition to live as a man (such as relinquishing your claim to women’s spaces), and as long as you pass or are accepted as male, are treated as a man. You change your body so that some sex characteristics that were female are now male.

You were born female, and will remain female. You may feel different, but you can’t change your sex. You are a female with a couple of body modifications.

I go for #1. I was AFAB, but that does not define me. My body is not female, and I do not live in society as a woman. If you go to #2, that is little different from the ‘womyn-born-womyn’ thing.

This form of radical feminism is trans-exclusionary, for the exact same reason as the second toilet scenario I opened with. And it matters - it is damaging hard work done to try and have society view trans women as women and trans men as men. It is undermining my position as a male and a man, and my claim to men’s spaces, so I have every personal reason to speak out against this.

[paganofgoodtimes]

I don't get the point of trans-exclusionary feminism?? Like that's basically saying "power to women but not those women" and that's not dissimilar to how we ended up in a patriarchy, like by saying "power to the people but not those people" so.. Like we're all women?? We're all people?? So shut up with your smug cisperiority?? Which is a word I just made up by combining cisgendered and superiority??