#trenever

[mrsmilkovich]

Not my picture but if this isn't me I don't know what is

[mickeys-coming-back-bitches]

screencaps recap of 7x12 Ian Gallagher being dead inside - part 1 - part 2 - part 3

[messy-aries]

"your guy didn't come?" "trevor? no. kinda fucked that one up" "fixable?" "i will have to see" Fuck. This. Show.

[riot-nrrrd]

Shameless 7x12

Obvious by the ending that they thought this actually might have been the end… if only we were so lucky.

Trenever and Ian didn’t get back together, though, so small victories, I suppose?

[messy-aries]

i swear to GOD if ian goes back to chicago and acts like nothing happened and prances right into trevor’s office with coffee and donuts i will gauge out my eyeballs

[captainneill]

Trevor told Ian, after having only two drunken kisses as evidence he was "into him", that if Ian was going to "make it weird" by NOT having sex with him, he (Trevor) had plenty of friends, clearly indicating to Ian "I don't need you for anything but sex." When Ian was upset & ran to Trevor, Trevor was only willing to comfort him if they had sex Trevor's way. It's not transphobic to dislike his character for these reasons, & it's wrong to insist Trevor is the wonderful & caring choice for Ian.

You are completely ignoring the fact that trevor clearly has his own issues with relationships. like i said in my post (which i assume you saw and that’s why you are sending me this), trevor probably feels rejected in a lot of ways, especially related to sex, and is just overcompensating for that. Remember how it took literally 4 seasons for mickey to not actually start not being a dick?? because mickey had his issues?? the fact that people are hating on his character and calling him a bad person without giving him any chance to grow as a character or grow in his relationship with ian, when people gave mickey ALL the chances, is transphobic. Also,,,,, Ian kissed trevor first when he ran to him, didn’t really give him time to react any other way. You also cannot deny that Ian clearly has some more than friends feelings for trevor, and that the biggest reason why he was hesitant about sex with trevor is because he is trans. ALSO,,, they both laughed about both being tops when they first seriously talked about having sex,,,, and THEN spent a long time discussing their boundaries and comforts about sex,,, seems fine to me. I definitely acknowledge that trevor has done a couple of not so great things, such as defending monica over ian and the calling ian a twink thing,, but i think that has a lot to do with there not being enough communication on BOTH sides of the relationship. All of the above reasons you stated for not liking trevor’s character are 1) stupid and mostly innacurate and 2) transphobic. (a side note that no one is ever obligated to be in any sort of relationship with anyone, be it a romantic one or a friendship, so i don’t really see how trevor saying he has plenty of friends is that problematic in this situation. sure it sucks for ian, but trev isn’t obligated to be friends with anyone, especially people that are attracted to him, but are transphobic, ya know??)

As a post note, I like gallavich and i sincerely hope that they are endgame. I really do. But if they aren’t I think it would be foolish to not give Ian and Trevor a chance just out of bitterness and transphobia. I do think that Ian loves Mickey, but it is possible to fall in love with someone over time and while he may never love trevor like mickey,,, he could still love him. if you would like to discuss this further i would totally be open to it, or to explaining anything you might not understand about what i said. Hope you have a great day :)

[captainneill]

People that blame Trevor for being upset about a cis man not wanting to be with him because he is trans and instead turn that around and say he’s trying to manipulate Ian are being transphobic. Trevor likely feels a constant fear that he’s not good enough or complete enough because he’s trans and that’s why he gets defensive and upset, not because he’s trying to manipulate Ian. He’s just frustrated that everything is so much harder cause he’s trans. Cis people don’t think about how difficult it is to have to explain things to people all of the time and answer uncomfortable questions just to live and have relationships. They forgave Mickey for being emotionally and physically abusive to Ian because he had internalized homophobia but say Trevor is just a bad person because he is upset that a cis guy that clearly is into him, doesn’t want to have sex with him because he is trans. T r a n s p h o b i a. Plain and simple. And it’s upsetting to me as a trans guy that people are defending this logic. No Trevor is not a perfect character. Yes he has done a couple of not great things. Yes I think that his character should be fleshed out more. No he is not manipulating or coercing Ian. End of story.

[fleurdelisgigi]

I used to love Ian, he used to be my favorite Gallagher (Carl at a close second and Mickey was my favorite character period) and 7 x 10 made my heart sing. But seriously Ian, you’re going to call your “boyfriend” and tell him “miss you” after you blew him off to sleep and be with your “ex” (even after you assured him that you weren’t going to get back involved with Mickey?) WHILE YOU’RE RIGHT NEXT TO SAID “EX”? Then you’re going to make out with Mickey giving him hope that he will indeed see you again? I just don’t understand that? Then you run away with Mickey without (I’m going to assume) breaking up with the current boyfriend?

I’m done with the show. 7 x 10 is my finale, and I am going to live blissfully in ignorance and believe that Mickey and Ian made it to Mexico and live in a nice hacienda, and drink margaritas and fuck like bunnies for the rest of their lives;  but I gotta wonder?

When Canon Ian comes back is Trenever just gonna be cool with that? Like “Oh, yeah, you ran off on me with your ex-con boyfriend with not so much as a “peace out” but your back now and chose me, so even though you were 100%  fucking him I’m just going to be ok with that.”