#troy saw

[jud4scradle]

Michael Marks and Troy as girls as well for @deadlyrainyvirtue I'm a man of the people

[mirroredmemoriez]

I always have thoughts (I can't be asked to rename this- Rigged traps and etc thinking)

We discuss Amanda rigging her traps so much and it has to be one of the most depressing aspects of her character. It’s somewhat obvious that she doesn’t actually think she should’ve survived her own test, which is why she doesn’t believe that anyone else should either- Amongst other factors.

I sometimes wonder whether she’d come to this conclusion without having to go through as much as she did. For example, if Gabriela hadn’t died and let’s say Cecilia did? If Adam somehow escaped… Or was Amanda always destined to doubt John’s ideology and be doomed. The reason she stuck around was because of him really, not anything to do with the ‘’rehabilitation’’ of others. She always tends to react negatively in the face of any game too. With Saw X I think we literally get to watch any hope Amanda has for John’s methods be crushed. I always get confused with the timeline but with a quick search this movie falls between the first Saw movie and Saw 2… Anyway the bathroom trap, Amanda is quite removed from the game itself, even though she is slightly one of the reasons Adam fails with how carelessly she throws the key. The most hands on Amanda gets in regards to this test is when she brings Adam to the bathroom and then also when she returns to suffocate him. 

But if we look at the traps for the scammers? Amanda plays a very active role in their test throughout the entire process. She not only brings them to the location, but she interacts with them whilst they’re playing their game. Amanda seems to be rooting for Gabriela, being quite empathetic to the younger woman’s struggle with addiction…. And in a sense, Cecilia is Gabriela’s John? Because to me both Cecilia and John are kinda predatory, just in different ways.

John knew of Amanda from the fact she was a patient in the Homeward Bound Clinic, testing her in her own words because she was a ‘’fucking junkie.’’ So he puts this clearly mentally unstable woman in a reverse bear trap and when she survives the ordeal, John proceeds to use her misplaced gratitude to recruit her. However, I do think there is genuine care between them, it’s just a shame the one person Amanda latches on to is JIGSAW. Whereas with Cecilia, she targets Gabriela because it’s easy to hire an employee whose main focus and drive is money. You can say that’s most workers and sure it is! But addiction can blur and shift your morals by a lot. The same way that Amanda got Cecil to attempt to rob the clinic, I don’t believe Gabriela is focused on the good and bad of what she’s doing. She is purely focused on funding her drugs, making her very easy to be taken advantage of. This could have been Amanda in another life. 

Back on track though- Another little detail that always makes me sigh is the fact that Amanda likely was the one to put Valentina’s hair up for her. It’s such a simple consideration and that is what makes it all the more saddening to me. She then watches with her own two eyes, almost every single one of their deaths… EXCEPT CECILIA WHO SURVIVES AND IS THE REASON GABRIELA DIED. Shit man. I’d crash out too. Like, what do you mean the person behind the scam in the first place and who has just stomped on another human being's neck like she’s killing a bug is the person who wins this? What because she did it in the time frame? Because she physically overpowered the other person within her test and KILLED him. That’s who we’re letting out??? Gabriela won but died and even someone like Valentina actually was successful in cutting off her own leg, she just didn’t have enough time. Oh! Did I mention this happens in Saw 2… Like so much of this is a repeat. Xavier physically overpowers almost everyone else in that group, throwing Amanda into a needle pit and killing Jonas. Laura did about nothing wrong except shoplifting and having Eric frame her, yet she succumbs to the poison and dies in Amanda’s arms. Oh! AND SOMEHOW THERE IS A MINOR IN BOTH OF THESE GAMES, DANIEL IS JUST A FUCKING TEENAGER AND CARLOS IS A CHILD!!! DID I MENTION WE HAVE SEX WORKERS HERE TOO? BYE VALENTINA. BYE ADDISON. Oh and people being forced into traps not intended for them. Amanda was never meant to go in the needle pit and a whole CHILD shouldn't be BLOODBOARDED.

All of this is so close together timeline wise too. Amanda is catching no breaks and that’s why it’s not surprising given these circumstances that she’d become unhinged and start actually just murdering people. Might as well everyone else seems to be doing it and getting far. But, let's say things were different as mentioned. Gabriela survived… Laura survived… Adam survived…. So on so forth. Would she have her existential crisis crash out? Because her belief nobody changes is partially engraved in her experiences with others but also based upon herself. If she was helped the first time, why did she keep getting tested? If not the fact of her drug addiction, what was wrong with her? The fact she still self harmed even after surviving the whole ordeal with the bear trap? AMANDA WHAT YOU COULD’VE BEEN IF YOU LATCHED ON TO JILL INSTEAD.

Like I know it's because John's method worked in comparison to the standard rehabilitation but God.

[monixmichael]

I ship them sm

[deadlyrainyvirtue]

I hope they don't hate me

[rotting-posts]

OC INTRO: Edom 💉

My Jigsaw OC!!! She will be put through the horrors!!

Since i do not enjoy drawing humans I've made her a fursona, she's an Iberian lynx because they look scrawny and fucked up.

I don't have a ref or anything, only a few doodles of her (and Troy, who is a cougar!)

She was used as a pawn in one of Jigsaw's games as a child, in which her father died and she then repressed and forgot those memories.

Edom grows up to nervous, jumpy person who prefers to be alone although she doesn't necessarily dislike other people and her dream is to become a doctor, so... She skips a few steps (medical school. She skips medical school. I am NOT putting any one of my OCs through that) and works to open her own clandestine back alley clinic one day.

She eventually finds Troy, who in this AU escapes his trap (like he DESERVED), and treats him. Eventually she becomes one of John's apprentices too, but that's for another post. Lots of horrors will happen!

[muridscourt]

Posting this alone cause I love Michael and Troy

[venusbloodingiscanon]

Most cursed saw ship that is your favorite?

Xavier / Michael

Troy / Amanda ( Classroomshipping )

Xavier / Addison ( Boxshipping )

Lawrence / Michael

Mark Hoffman / Mark Wilson

Obi / Laura

Voting ended onJan 27, 2025

[giveamadeuschohisownmovie]

From the third “Saw” movie, which test subject do you feel the least sympathy for? (The one that made you go, “Okay Jigsaw, I’ll hear you out on this one.”)

Jeff Denlon

Lynn Denlon

Troy (chains guy)

Amanda Young (round 2 since John found out her tests were unwinnable)

Allison Kerry

Voting ended onMar 14, 2024

* I’m excluding anyone who didn’t have a chance to save themselves since they’re more pawns to someone else’s game. That’s why Judge Holden, Timothy, and Danica aren’t in the poll since Jeff was the subject.

* Amanda’s test subjects still count since we didn’t learn her tests were unwinnable until after the fact