#tulhin

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Can you summarize TulHin's relationship?

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How does Tul remember Hin when they are apart? Does he have an item?

He has 2 ways of remembering Hin.

The kind of strongest connection is a stone he keeps in his pocket. He took Hin on one proper date, one proper outing together, doing things Hin would love. Hin gave him a stone, and Tul palms it constantly. So much so that when Hin returns to him, Tul shows him the markedly smaller rock.

The second is more how he honors Hin?

Hin's full name means "stone" (so, the rock is that as well), and Tul named his son Phupha, "mountain". So even though Phupha represents Tul's betrayal of Hin, he named the boy in honor of the only person he ever loved.

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What is Hin to Tul? As in why does Tul have this boy hanging around him to torture without anyone noticing? Or does Tul's family think he is a whipping boy a la Paytai?

Hin's parents are both servants in Tul's house!

Again, I haven't read 90% of Breath yet, so I don't know the whole and full picture, but I get the impression that Hin's parents were hired in part because of him.

Hin is the same age as Tul, and Tul's father has had them raised together ever since they were 6. Hin is supposed to be Tul's companion/best friend, and when they're adults, he will be Tul's executive assistant.

So they go to the same schools, see the same tutors, take the same classes, are meant to go to the same university in the same major, etc.

Also, Hin has his own separate quarters from his parents, which is why they never see the bruises or the blood on Hin after sessions with Tul. Hin also puts all bloody bedsheets in the wash immediately, so no maids ever see the evidence.

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I usually understand Mame titles, but why is it called Breath?

Tul.

He has an extremely dangerous form of mental health problems where the abuse of his family overwhelms him. He becomes... manic, but like, in a very focused and controlled way, so I'm not sure if "manic" really applies.

He will feel like he is suffocating, and ripping apart beneath his skin, and so he inflicts pain on Hin so that Hin feels what he feels.

Only when Hin has taken all of his pain does he feel like he can breathe again.

But also, Tul loves Hin so much that he feels absolutely dead and lost without him. When Hin leaves, Tul feels like a dead man, who cannot feel emotions, and becomes a hollow creature that only knows how to parrot human behavior.

He tells Hin- repeatedly, in kind or cruel ways, in various contexts, across the novel- that Hin is what allows Tul to breathe again.

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What did Tul do the night(s) he was so bad?

I will put this one below a cut for the most part.

I actually mis-remembered earlier, this isn't 2 days, it is 4 days and 4 nights.

Tul and Hin go to a hotel, saying they are going to spend a few days on a class project.

They go into the room, Hin is very aware this is going to be dangerous, because Tul has been absolutely humiliated and demeaned by his family and hasn't even tried to vent it yet.

And then it suddenly cuts to the next day and back-fills.

So the part you don't see:

Hin stripped quickly as soon as they were in the room, and folded his clothes to set aside.

Tul began to beat him. Not entirely clear how much of this happened before or during the sex, but Hin is a bloody wreck the next time you see him, and handcuffed spread eagle to the bed.

Tul put a gag on Hin so he couldn't scream, a black blindfold is tied around his eyes, he is forced into a cock ring, and is beaten across nearly every inch of his body. His face, chest, arms, legs, back- Tul will eventually tell people Hin was jumped while trying to stop a mugging. He looks like someone tried to beat him to death.

And Tul acknowledges that Hin has never screamed or sobbed as hard as he did the night before. Even Tul thought he might torture Hin to death, and he only wants to do worse.

Some of the worst punches were to his stomach as Tul slammed in, or others when Hin was close to cumming and Tul would punch him.

He has strangled Hin in the past, to the point where Hin genuinely expects to die. It is not directly mentioned he did this again, but Hin's bruises extend to his throat.

Tul has also bitten Hin enough that he is covered in blood- he doesn't just do a nibble, he fully bites.

It is a bit vague in the wording, but he has probably sounded Hin as well, he has a history of that too (for those of you who do not know, that is urethral insertion).

When Tul is done, he belts a vibrating anal plug onto Hin and leaves him for a couple hours, saying he is leaving him to be free use to any hotel worker who comes in (he put a "Do Not Disturb" sign on the door).

What you do see:

When Tul returns, he has bought MORE stuff. Hin doesn't know who is there, he is in extreme pain. He figures out it is Tul.

Tul takes out the plug and slams a dildo in with a spinning head. Hin is sobbing and screaming into his gag. Tul takes it off and Hin begs him to stop, but Tul just keeps slamming the dildo in while he screams at Hin, eventually replacing the dildo with himself, but being more violent than ever before.

Tul forces Hin to repeat that he is there to be an outlet for Tul's pain, even as Hin is screaming and crying.

The story time jumps again.

For 4 days and 4 nights, Tul kept Hin chained to the bed and tortured him, either personally or through brutal toys. The beatings did not stop, they just kept getting worse.

When Tul is finally done, he says he needs to return to deal with his family. Hin asks for permission to stay away from the manor- Tul punching and biting his face left him badly swollen, bloody, and bruised. He cannot be touched without feeling extreme pain- even his friendly lightly touching his shoulder is too painful. The handcuffs have also cut into his wrists and ankles, badly hurting him.

Tul only tells him he has permission, and leaves Hin alone.

Hin has no money for a hotel room, and Tul gives him none, so Hin goes to ask if he can sleep on his friend's sofa. His friend is disgusted by the sight of him, knowing Tul did this and Hin won't fight back.

He takes care of Hin for a week, with no real messages or visits from Tul (who is forced to play host to Wadee, he really wanted to find Hin and make sure he was alright) beyond just asking where Hin is staying.

Eventually, when people start to notice Hin is gone, Tul says that Hin was attacked saving a man from mugger and didn't want to disturb the house with the sight of a battered servant. This is the lie Hin told his parents (also servants).

Hin returns, and Tul forces him to strip so that, in the sober light of day, Tul can see the still-visible damage he did.

He puts medicine on the bruises, and is extremely ashamed of both the pain he inflicted and also not being there in the aftermath, leaving Hin to clean himself up and take care of himself.

That is the last time Tul is violent to Hin in a sexual setting unless Hin explicitly asks for him to be rougher. He takes genuine steps to be healthier towards Hin, since he is starting to finally realize that his abuse is killing Hin, very possibly literally with the trajectory he is on.

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Any novels with actual orgasm denial? Like real real begging to cum and maybe cockrings or sounding? Okay the tools/toys maybe too much lol but is there organsm denial atleast in a beginner level?

Sounding for SURE in Breath, with a q-tip jammed in.

Breath by Mame is honestly probably the answer. Hin has no real agency during sex at first, it is extreme BDSM, heavy on the sadism. A few really extreme-edge kink sessions he is subjected to while gagged and bound in some way.

Consent is nonexistent for a lot of it. And no aftercare. Tul is extremely abusive but Hin takes it because he wants Tul to vent his hate and pain any way he can.

Denial itself, not 100% but I know he begs quite a lot later on if he needs something

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So, I will do a reread with a full read through eventually, but I read Breath and... oh boy. Love it, love how it ended, but TulHin are a therapist's DREAM.

Or quite possibly nightmare.

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15 Day BL Challenge!

Day 3: Side Dish That Should’ve Been The Main Course

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I am so tempted to say Chen Yi and Ai Di from Kiseki: Dear to Me but I know others have talked about it a lot and I agree with everything they said (I love Zong Yi and Zhe Rui as well don’t get me wrong but yeah lol)

So instead I thought about it a little more and fell onto

Tul and Hin from LBC2

I do not like LBC2. It is, in my opinion, the worst show of all of the MCU (Mame Cinematic Universe).

The one bright spot for me was the background story of Tul and Hin that ran through the series. Meen and Est sell the couple as well as they can, which for me was very well. I wish we could have seen more of them as a pair since both of them are very good actors and their chemistry was good despite how little they appear together.

So much about this couple is up my alley. Angst, mutual long term pining, a second chance romance now that they are older and wiser. An adorable child. Give me the domestic fluff damm it!

They get entirely too little screen time and I wish we had so much more. I wish they could have had their own series.