#utrinque

[married-to-the-night]

Utrinque Flag!

We were waiting for Alannah to come back to post this, but I’ve decided to do it myself as another utrinque alter in our system.

We actually planned to design this flag when we made the term, but disability and alter switches interfered. I’d like to thank @beyond-mogai-pride-flags for creating one for people to use in our absence (we only learned about it in the process of seeing if there was a wiki page to add ours to). That said, it would mean the world to use if you would use this one, we put a lot of thought into how to convey what utrinque means through the design.

The top two stripes represent cisness. The bottom two represent [binary] transness. The middle grey stripe represents the divide between them, and the white represents the utrinque experience: existing on both sides and in between. This calls back to the Latin, which means “on both sides”.

Anyone is free to use this flag so long as it is used to represent utrinquegender. There are no copyrights to worry about. Seeing the flag used is enough.

I hope everyone likes it!

- Alexx

Utrinque definition under the Read More for those unfamiliar!

Utrinquegender, or utrinque for short, means “both sides”, in line with cis (“on this side”) and trans (“across”). It is a modifier, and NOT a gender.

It is a word for people who genuinely experience aspects of both trans and cis experiences, but do not fit either label: female-aligned alters in DFAB DID/OSDD systems whose system has medically transitioned to male and male-aligned alters in the reverse situation. It may also be used by those that are intersex and have similar experiences. For more details, please refer to our #utrinque tag.

[thepokedexisgay]

Utrinquegirl mimikyu?

I couldn’t find a specific flag for utrinque girl, so I used the general utrinque flag

[momma-mogai-sphinx]

hey uh what's the terminology for when you're afab and transition to feminity? I saw you talk about it in your post about tmes using transfem (great post, by the way!), and I've never heard about it before so I was super curious

Adfeminine is the umbrella term for anyone who is transitioning to femininity, whatever form that may take. If, more specifically, you relate to the transfeminine experience (see also: sensfeminine) due to being a fem-aligned alter in an AFAB system whose system has medically transitioned to male, OR because of certain intersex conditions, the term utrinque(feminine) is also accessible to you.

[married-to-the-night]

i’m a cis male alter in a transmale body. i experience transness due to the body being DFAB, but experience cisness due to being a cismale personally and also the body presenting as male. could i use the term untrinique to describe my gender?

No you cannot. This term is for people that had their gender and body match and then had their body hormonally and/or surgically changed in some way that causes the body and gender to no longer match. What you experience within the headspace isn’t really relavant to your body’s truth for the same reason that different race alters in systems can’t claim to actually experience being that race. And I do know where you’re coming from; we have “cis” male alters too. No matter how you dice it your gender and presentation match now, but once didn’t, and the term is for people who once matched but now don’t.

hope all that made sense.

- link

[married-to-the-night]

Hi! I would like to know if utrinque is meant to be exclusive of people who feel like they are both/neither cis and/nor trans for not physically "looking like" one's assigned gender even though they are their assigned gender, or if it's for anyone who doesn't feel like they don't fit cis or trans in general? I'm asking because the OP kinda implies it's exclusive, but doesn't outright say so. x_x

To be brief: it is an exclusive term. I thought the OP made that clear.

To be long: it’s exclusive, and I also really don’t like this phrasing.

My situation makes it to where I cannot entirely identify with the experiences of cis or trans girls, but can identify in part with the experiences of both. I identify myself as nonbinary because of my alienation from cisness; I cannot identify with womanhood in the same way I used to.

I identify as utrinque because of my relation to our body and society. I am legally male, and I am on testosterone, and our body passes as male. I am actively read as a transfeminine person. There is no gendered restroom I can feel SAFE in. Not comfortable, safe. I’m too feminine for the men’s room, too masculine for the women’s. It’s more than feeling like I’m not cis or trans, I can’t. I’m not ACCEPTED as either. Not really.

My situation is distressing. Extremely so. Because I know that I put our system at risk every time I leave the house as myself, and that my situation is niche and no one really thinks about it. Cis and trans were meant to be inclusive of pretty much everyone (intersex people have their own term for if they identify with neither, but it escapes me at the moment), but people like me fall through the cracks.

It’s not for just anyone that doesn’t identify with cis or trans, because I really don’t want this term used to describe experiences that literally are cis or trans, or are generally considered to be under umbrellas, like nb people who just don’t identify as trans but aren’t cis either —that’s a valid identity, but that isn’t really the criteria for utrinque. Similarly, I’ve seen trans people that stopped identifying as trans because they transitioned, but obviously weren’t suddenly cis: that’s not utrinque either.

Experiences I’ve consciously recognised as applicable to utrinque thus far

- alters in DID/OSDD systems that match the body’s assigned gender at birth, but whose systems have made the decision to transition. This was outlined in the OP- people whose bodies produce too much of the “wrong” sex hormone or too little or the “correct” one, if this results in an atypical, non-cis relationship to their gender

I’ve also given special permission to a system I know whose adult body reads as an androgynous prepubescent child, causing significant gender dysphoria regardless of the gender of who is fronting.

If you’d like to tell me why you don’t identify with trans/cis, I’m happy to tell you if utrinque applies, but it is an exclusive term. I hope this clarifies.