#vegan ethics

[veganeon]

The Invisible Clock: Quantifying Global Daily Animal Slaughter in 2026

New data on animal sentience is colliding with the sheer scale of the global food system. We look at the latest slaughter statistics and the psychology of transition.

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[thebleeding-heart]

Here’s an ethical question: How do other vegans feel about killing invasive insects?

Obviously we don’t typically kill bugs unless they are threatening our lives or heath, but the general advice for invasive bugs (lanternfly, Japanese beetle, etc) is to kill them when we see them because they become too abundant and displace native species and usually harm crops.

If it helps the overall ecosystem to kill invasive insects, is it ethical to kill them? Does it become a grey area? I hate to kill any living thing, it’s not they had any say in coming here and being born in the wrong place any more than I did. But I know that invasive insects can be a real problem to native species trying to thrive.. does that give us a pass to go on a killing spree?

[vegandude74]

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[theonlinevegan]

[vegandude74]

[procrasinatingpumpkinsquare-blog]

If you were a vegan and had your own chickens, would you eat eggs?

I’ve always wondered this. Vegans don’t use or eat animal products. And the reason is different for every person. It’s wonderful coming up with ways and recipes that spread love and joy rather than waste and cruelty. I strive to be vegan in my diet for moral and eco-friendly purposes. I love animals too much to knowingly cause them pain for the sake of my lifestyle. It’s not perfect, I still make mistakes. But there is progress. You learn you grow, you try to change.

I avoid eating eggs because of the industry behind it. I hate the cruelty and the waste that goes into it, both en factory and behind store cooler doors. But, if you removed the cruelty of the egg industry and raised the hens yourself, would it be ok for you to use eggs? Let me know what you think!

[k-bc]

I've been binge watching Ask Yourself's channel (for the millionth time) and thought he did a really thorough job describing Name The Trait here. A really good reference for vegans arguing the logic behind moral value and ethics.

[k-bc]

#namethetrait

When talking about veganism you can get dragged all over the place in arguments. You can be talking about nutrition one minute, then explaining why “free range” isn’t exactly free range, and then debating animal testing or hunting. What is far better than creating a big, complex picture of why these individual arguments fail in practice, going into detail, is understanding the fundamental logical reason why all these arguments fail. And that reason is that the justification we give for killing and eating animals would be rejected in other contexts, so it creates a double standard. The “name the trait” filter can help catch moral inconsistencies in intellectually honest arguments.

Name a difference between humans and animals that justifies the difference in treatment.

There is no difference.

Some examples: “They aren’t as intelligent as us” - would you give up your right to life if you were less intelligent?

“They don’t look like us” - if you looked different to another group, would that group be justified in killing you?

“They don’t have moral agency / the ability to reason” - if you were mentally disabled or a child with no moral agency, would it be justified to kill you?

“Humans created civilization” - if humans lacked civilization, would it be okay to kill them without justification? Is it morally justified to kill isolated tribespeople?

“It’s part of our culture / its natural” - if it were part of our culture to kill humans needlessly would this make it ethical? It’s natural to kill humans, does that make it ethical?

“They’re animals and we’re humans” is simply not the difference and this question is meant to point out where most people violate the 2nd law of logic in terms of veganism - the law of noncontradiction. This line of logic follows from the fundamental golden rule - treat others the way you would like to be treated.

Animals and humans are both sentient. They both have conscious awareness, and can feel pain and suffering. That is the common relevant trait used to determine moral value. Morality, as a social agreement, must be applied consistently unless you do not value human life and are okay with someone applying it inconsistently to you or your loved ones.

Credit: Isaac Brown / Ask Yourself: https://m.youtube.com/#/channel/UCQNmHyGAKqzOT_JsVEs4eag

Emma Page / Banana Warrior Princess: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCKZIqLWqUgW541ldU_MNmkA