venellen replied to your post “I try to accept that people like different things in fiction in...”
she`ll live. That theory of regeneration energy floating away (this time for a reason) is a thing that will save her is very doctor whoish
If Grace truly lives I promise to sign over my soul to Chibnall for good. He can have it. Then I’ll trust him with it.
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actual-bill-potts replied to your post “I try to accept that people like different things in fiction in...”
tbh I found it more tastefully handled than bill's death...obvs we don't know where they're gonna go with grace after this (i think she's listed as a recurring character), but like...her death was framed heroically (slow-mo heroic fall mimicking the doctor's) and there was no blood or gore or giant hole in her chest. If it was done for the shock value (& i'm not sure it was) at least it wasnt as blatant or violent as bill's death.
Like absolutely bill's ending was the exact opposite of fridging but the more i think about it the more im a little shocked that it was the Black lesbian character they chose to kill so violently, no matter what her eventual ending was. I can see how you could look at grace's death and think it was a step in the right direction. (though personally im very undecided, we'll see how they handle it in future episodes)(ill retract all of this if shes like never mentioned again or smth)
Tbh, World Enough and Time is an episode that never quite redeemed itself in my eyes. It’s basically perfect in every other way - the acting is amazing, the direction is out of this world, the aesthetics is truly unsettling, the writing is technically amazing - but the violence of it is something else. I don’t really classify any of it as “Bill’s death” in my mind (she never actually dies at any point in the episode?), but I certainly see it as putting Bill through a lot of suffering that is ultimately way too brutal for The Doctor Falls to be able to transform it into something less traumatic. It’s one of my least favourite Moffat finales for that reason.
As such, WEaT is much less watchablethan TWWFtE, for me personally, no matter the overall quality of either episode and no matter the ending. Frankly, if the argument were “Moffat may have had his heart in the right place, but the result was often still way too cruel to his characters”, that’d be a pretty understandable reading, although I don’t think there’s anything else that compares to WEaT. “That cruelty disproportionally affected black people” is also true. (I’ll defend Danny’s arc to the end of the earth and back, but when two major black characters in a row get converted into Cybermen, that’s really unfortunate.)
But as it stands, the argument seemed to be “what the Moffat era was missing was a lot of dead people, wow I’m glad we’re killing people off now”. There’s no actual shortage of women - and black women - being killed off so that other characters can feel appropriately sad about it on tv. They are a dime a dozen. It’s not revolutionary. It’s just resurrecting (oh the irony) a really shitty trope.
xingshining replied to your post “I try to accept that people like different things in fiction in...”
Yes, killing off the older black woman is such a positive sign. /sarcasm
Yeah, it’s filling a real void in our media landscape. /sarcasm
venellen replied to your post:venellen replied to your post:My problem with...
I picked Ashley on my few last playthroughs. And it realy fits better for my femshep story… also sorry but I love Ash/James pairing… they are cute together
I need to watch them on youtube one day... ;D
It’s not even a fair choice at this point - I like Ashley just fine for the brief time I can spend in her company, but I grew really fond of Kaidan since I played all the games and then ME2-ME3 (with the same ME1 save) with him. It would be like choosing casual acquaintance over dear friend. I’m not sure if I’ll ever manage.
(maybe I’ll start ME2 with default world state and m!Shepard. Then I’ll get Ashley without any moral hangover from my part)
venellen replied to your post:My problem with finishing Mass Effect is that I...
my problem is, even if I played one version.. I cannot make myself play another, I might get different paragon/renegade levels and different LI (started with Garrus this time…but it`s to strange to me). It`s just I cannot kill Wrex, I cannot take Morinth not Samara, or kill Mordin myself, kill Geths? no.
I killed council once, but then there is a moment when destiny ascention ask for help and Joker close the connection.. And I was just… You didn`t… I used last save (had to go through Ilos again…) to save them again
This is me exactly. I was so sure I’m going to pick Ashley, not Kaidan, this time, but nope, I couldn’t make myself do it. Although my lady Shepard got a more complex romantic live than my first, male Shepard and his corrected 2.0 version (he was just waiting for Kaidan ;D) with other main choices I was like okay, I know I’ve already played that, but it worked out really well and it’s a different Shepard anyway, she deserves best world she can get too.
Okay, I managed to take Morinth this time. I hadn’t planed to, but was so surprised that I had enough points that I just went with it. And then today I met Morinth in London. In slightly different form, let’s say. That was terrific.
And my lady Shepard was way more renegade than m!Shepard. That’s something.
Next time I’m killing Wrex, destroying research and leaving Mordin alive. I’m not even going to pretend that I’ll kill him myself one day. Let’ see how it goes.
(okay, full disclousure, though, I was once forced to kill the quarians. My very first Shepard managed to get Tali killed. But that’s why I repeated ME2 and ME3 with the same guy, the same class included, so it did not really happened, thank you very much).