#vicnacho

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do you think they ever did it raw and sloppy, freak style, hatefuck nasty mode, big dick riding choking on that thang, on the bed on the floor on a towel by the door, extreme and hardcore, gay moment, real talk?

[idyllphile]

[loadednachosao3]

lacho and nachomingo are great and all but can I introduce you to the gospel of Victor/Nacho

please just imagine the snarky hatesex with me

this ship needs more warriors

[idyllphile]

I have been getting into the UFC again, the horror (RIP Bellator, ngl), and watched Heated Rivalry, so my brain just conjured this shit up. I'm thinking I'm going to focus on Nacho. Lalo wouldn't be in his weight class realistically, so he could be his coach. Tuco is already into boxing canonically, so he is a no-brainer to pick as a fighter, and Victor is Victor. This concept is still a little raw, but Nacho out here with a triple forbidden sex thing with his coach, his coach's cousin + fellow fighter and his rival is kind of funny. Like biblical levels of greed over here

I said forbidden sex instead of romance because this wouldn't be romantic at all. Lalo is definitely just playing into his ego and misusing their power dynamic; Victor is in super mega denial and the type to randomly rant about gay people in interviews or call people fags over nothing; just very repressed, even in the bedroom, and Tuco is threatening him afterwards with "how he has connections" if Nacho even dares to think about snitching.

Lalo's beef with Gus in this AU would be either because he lost to Tyrus before retiring and becoming a coach, losing his belt with Gus being either Tyrus's coach or manager. I thought about him just being a sponsor but needed their petty beef. This would also worsen things for Victor/Nacho if them fucking on the side were to get out.

I'm not sure yet how I'm handling Manuel or how they're going to become estranged. I can't think of a good reason other than Nacho being queer rn. Just leaving him behind for the sport/fame?

We could add Domingo too

This is all I got for now my brother

I looove this lmao, I think combat sports work best out of all the options if you wanna make a BCS sports AU. violence!!

Nacho hooking up with Lalo, Tuco, AND Victor is SO crazy, like. gee Nacho, how come your mom lets you have two pissed-off sadistic extremely closeted fuckbuddies? plus a third fuckbuddy with a lot of power over you who could easily ruin your career for any reason but especially for your thing with the other fuckbuddy who works for his enemy? not a very 'responsible mom' thing to do

for as long as all this lasts, Nacho is never not going to be injured in some way. bruises forever. they all like hurting him. but considering he chose to pursue a professional career in Getting Hit, it's safe to say he's not scared of a beating

he probably even likes it ;) a lot ;) and maybe thinks he deserves pain because of how he's disappointed his father ;(

it'd be nice to add Domingo in there, give Nacho somebody who doesn't want to beat the hell out of him (at least not recreationally/sexually) and who can't and would never fuck up his life like the other three can and might. I can imagine their sparring sessions turning into sweaty-yet-sweet grinding that leads to sex in the showers <3

awesome AU idea, anon!! thanks for sharing!!

[idyllphile]

no one's ever gonna be able to tell me that Victor didn't have a little crush on Nacho that he was so so pissed about. like we joke about Gus having a Frollo-Esmeralda thing for Nacho (and I love that too let's never stop) but he actually had a reason to severely hate Nacho and want him hurt/dead. Nacho almost stole his revenge from him. there it is, that's the explanation, makes total sense

but Victor? what reason does Victor have to be glaring daggers at Nacho all the time, even before all the Shit started? to have been eager to be the one to beat up Nacho before his death? to be fucking smirking when they all left after watching Nacho put a bullet in his brain? hello?? Victor where is all this hate and sadism coming from??? oh I see. Nacho was giving you gay feelings and you didn't know how to handle it. grown-up violent version of throwing pebbles at your third-grade crush on the playground. I understand

[idyllphile]

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Alphas are worthless assholes. Victor wants nothing to do with them, and that includes Nacho. Victor's a violent bastard. Nacho wants nothing to do with him, omega or not. And yet.

it's the vicnacho fic!! :D

[idyllphile]

What are your top 5 BCS/BrBa ships and why?

oooh okay I'm NOT going to be actually ranking these (except for number one) because what I consider 'more of a favorite' changes with my mood and how much I've been thinking about a given character recently! with that said:

lacho takes the gold lmao. it's my first BCS ship and I got into it pretty much instantly! I've mentioned before how I like enemies-to-lovers, and lacho is that but deliciously one-sided for most of canon; Lalo doesn’t consider Nacho an enemy! to him, this is either coworkers-to-lovers or friends-to-lovers, depending on how much you think he liked Nacho in the very beginning

another aspect I like is how differently they feel about their work; Nacho is desperate to get out of the cartel by the time Lalo arrives on the scene, whereas Lalo has been cartel his whole life and is perfectly comfortable with it, feels no great moral turmoil, has no disappointed loved ones (his family are right there with him, rather). such oppositional views on their shared profession makes for great friction (lol sorry)

alright, for the rest of these, disregard the order. I'm just gonna go alphabetical by ship name

gusnacho is, again, enemies-to-lovers lmao. come on, do I need to link the "you are mine" scene? how about the "a dog who bites" scene? there's so much outright dominance from Gus onto a terrified and cornered Nacho. he already blackmails him into working for him, who's to say he wouldn't ask for something else as well? it's definitely been a long time, and Nacho is completely under his control, which makes him safe... conversely, given Nacho's intelligence, desperation, and skill with manipulation, who's to say he wouldn't offer himself in an attempt to win favor (and therefore safety) or find an opening to strike? it's always an interesting situation when both characters in a ship have much more reason to want to stay ten miles away from each other than to want to fuck/get close in any capacity; makes the process a real treat to think about, write, or read!

lalogus and this will be the only ship on this list that does not include Nacho lmao. enemies-to-lovers strikes again! call me a predictable bitch. with the intense cat-and-mouse game these two play in canon, it's not hard to imagine things going further, turning sexual. and a lot of interesting conflict arises from the obvious resistance Gus would have to that, what with his undying devotion to Max's memory and his hatred of all Salamancas. plus, they are narrative foils and as such have plenty in common, and it's a big deal that Lalo is able to scare the normally unflappable Gustavo Fring

tucho is our only entry on this list that isn't enemies-to-lovers. do I have a problem? perhaps. anyway, isn't it fascinating that Tuco - the guy who will eventually beat a member of his own crew to death for verbally backing him up - has so much trust in Nacho? Jimmy was the one who talked Tuco down from double homicide to two broken legs, yeah, but Nacho was the one who got him to accept Jimmy's original statement that he's a lawyer and convince him to let Jimmy go. there's a crazy amount of trust and respect there, considering the kind of person Tuco is. also, we can't ignore the fact that, at some point, something about Tuco's lifestyle (maybe even Tuco himself) was attractive enough to Nacho that he decided to join the cartel. MM says he thinks there was genuine affection between them, and I wholeheartedly agree!

vicnacho time yaaaay!! a pairing with a single-digit number of shippers but by God am I one of them. the best quick explanation of this ship is that situationally it's like gusnacho, but in terms of characterization it's more like tucho. the logical reasons for these two to end up fucking/getting close is about the same for Gus and Nacho, but Victor is more like Tuco in temperament; that's not to say he's actually like Tuco, it's just that... well, pretty much no one is like Gus, lol. also, their very different - and yet, heartbreakingly similar in the end - relationships with Gus can serve as both a source of conflict and something that can bring them together and give each of them a better understanding of the other :)

(now seems as good a time as any to reveal how I got into this ship: a friend and I like to do smutty BCS rps, and we started exploring an omegaverse scenario - yes, omegaverse - between Victor and Nacho. we both were surprised by how much we got into it, and that's how I developed my view of Victor's characterization and backstory! I'm actually considering adapting that rp into a fic; we'll see if I end up doing it lol)

wow, there's not a single BrBa ship on this list... here: honorable mention of gusmike (there, that one's BCS and BrBa) and mikenacho. sorry old man, you didn't quite make the cut. it's not because I don't love you!!

[idyllphile]

Do you have anymore vicnacho thoughts you’d want to share❓I love thinking about them

I have so many vicnacho thoughts because I also love thinking about them!!! <3 <3 <3

like I've mentioned before, I see Victor as having been immediately (and strongly) attracted to Nacho, and being super pissed off at Nacho about it lol. how dare this stupid too-pretty bitch make him feel Gay Things? make him feel anything at all period? death to him

this may have even been part of why he was so much more reckless with that second bullet out in the desert. think about it; he lined up the shoulder shot carefully, took deliberate aim while Nacho was in position and ready for it, but then for the second one he blindsided Nacho and barely even waited long enough for him to turn around before firing? mmm, I dunno Victor, kinda seems like you were either a) shooting sloppily on purpose hoping he'd die so you wouldn't Feel Gay Shit anymore, or b) got horny from seeing him bloodied and in pain and your focus slipped

(listen. he's sadistic. he is)

regardless, I like to think Tyrus chewed him out a little for it in the car on the drive back lol

another thing: it's 1000% Nacho who makes the first move, and he does it for Sneaky Snake Reasons. surely he'll be a little less likely to be murdered by these guys if one of them likes him, right? if he's Victor's fuckbuddy - or even Victor's boyfriend - he'll have a better shot of... not getting shot again. though Victor, once he gets over his outrage about being propositioned/flirted with/whatever Nacho does to signal interest, is absolutely not gonna let emotion come into it

but it's my FunLand where the characters do what I want, so of course emotion comes into it :) oooooh, they're gonna get attaaaaached...

what will help them start to get a little closer to each other is how Goddamn lonely they both are. Nacho is only a few months off from having been pretty much disowned by his father, now staying in a different house from him for most likely the first time in his life. Victor (as I headcanon him) has literally no close relationships outside of work. they both appreciate (even if they don't want to acknowledge it) having someone who gets it to hang around, someone they don't have to hide anything from or justify anything to

Nacho's hope to worm his way into Victor's heart will run into a problem, though, that being: Victor is absolutely allergic to vulnerability, and the desire for closeness, affection, and love? that's vulnerable, bitch! You Will Not Make Him Feel Things, Varga. Except For Hatred

also they have similar cunty attitudes and senses of humor and I think Nacho would have fun introducing Victor to Jimmy so they can torment him together. date night activity lmao