Can I just say I love how Frisk straightup fucking hates Flowey? Not in a mean-spirited way, but the absolute “You BITCH” energy they give off when talking about them reminds me of how I felt when he interrupted my True Pacifist Run. (For those who might be confused by this: I’m an IF Server member and am talking about events that occured in #specialhappytime. Frisk hasn’t actually talked about him somewhere you may have missed yet)
Haha, I'm glad that people overall have been receptive to that. I was a bit concerned with how much people love Frisk and Asriel/Frisk and Flowey friendship that my Frisk NOT being as understanding or receptive would bother people.
That's not to say they can't learn to understand how he got this way later, but the trauma and betrayal from what happened really do rule out Frisk wanting to maintain a friendship with him at this time, and probably for a long time, if we're being realistic.
In Vanilla Undertale, he still did some messed up stuff, like repeatedly killing them as Photoshop Flowey, killing Asgore in their face, and similarly "betraying" them, but there it was a lighter "if you beat me, I'll bring everyone back" on top of him not dragging out the betrayal for too long and making it so personally charged.
Here, though? He delightfully laughed at Frisk's tears, attacked them verbally and physically, and even dug up old guilt and trauma, on top of making it so Papyrus had to surrender before he got on with it.
They're grateful that Chara has this second chance at life. It's nice to be able to hug them and hold their hand, especially under these circumstances... but that's still one silver lining after the most traumatic experience of their life.