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The Sage Aberaku Once Asked,

"Are not dragons and snakes kin?"

and then the wise Hoyo answered 5 years later,

"Dragons and serpents were once one and the same..."

Then enters this mf:

(Side note, it's making laugh so hard how Xui just built a snake minigame in his damn server. The dragons were so silly I love them.)

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Dragon Reincarnation

That paragraph says it all if you give it enough thought, but I will still go through it and what it might mean for the lore because this is the biggest "vishap people" proof I have gotten so far. (Thank you Enjou for your enlightenment 5 years ago.)

First let me remind you how this Lusalim was the dragon that betrayed dragonkin and bargained with the reaver using all the dragon's research data to preserve the frost moon just so he can send a message into nothingness.

That research was the basis for the fake sky, the data manipulation Irminsul is capable of, and even cognitive disruptions... in short, everything Phanes has moddified in Teyvat you will find an explanation for in the dragon's findings.

In any case, this is important for only one reason, that even if the dragons did not have time to implement this reincarnation system, then Phanes likely did. There is also the possibility that Lusalim continued to work on it while on Phanes's side.

This also lines up with how Dottore was talking about his soul last patch and refering to it as "data", just like in this research log.

So the takeaway is, the reincarnation system is in place.

But this was already evident due to a certain sovereign. Neuvillette.

Think on it, the dragons were looking for a way to reincarnate, that means that they did not naturally do so. Which means if one of them did reincarnate, then that research was finally completed.

Also, I had previously talked about why Neuvillette being reborn in human form was not due to "vishap purity", and I had come to that conclusion due to a contradiction in the logic of the people of Enkanomiya (the ones that said that). Here is the post in case you are interested.

Moreover, the dragons specify clearly that the form could be different from that of a dragon's... it lines up perfectly with Neuvillette's case.

This gives us one interesting case study... dragon king Nibelung.

Nibelung came back to Teyvat and was allegedly defeated. No one is clear on that at all. Some even phrase it as an assumption. But in the end, there are only three possiblities. Nibelung died. Nibelung did not die. Or that was not Nibelung at all. (some say its was the abyss in his form and he is still out in space and I think that is very valid and I might write about it at some point.)

Case one, he died. Then according to Neuvillette's vision story, he likely already reincarnated and made the Gnoses with Phanes. There is also the slight possibility, though small, that Nibelung is not the second descender. This would just mean he will reincarnate eventually like Neuvillette anyway. The answer is always the same with this case because Neuvillette proves the reincarnation system is working. This also means Nibelung is/will be likely in human form. (I think it might be Vedrfolnir.)

Case two, he did not die. That means he is hiding somewhere and we just need to find him.

Case three, that was not Nibelung. That means he is still in deep space and we also just need to find him.

So in conclusion, either the dragon king is in human form... or we need to find him.

To summarize, my main concerns are, [1] dragons do not naturally reincarnate and that was done through research, [2] that research is the real reason Neuvillette is in human form and you should not believe the idiots in Enkanomiya when it comes to reasoning as they had contradictions in their logic, you are better off believing Enjou, [3] Nibelung is likely in human form as well, and if not then he is in deep space or hidden somewhere, not to mention the other sovereigns that died will likely come back as humans (I am looking at you Xui.)

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Teyvat is Being Used Up Through Reincarnation

After making this theory on the truth of reincarnation, and how Phanes and or Lusalim applied the dragons research to enable reincarnation even if not in dragon form, I want to show you another side of it that makes sense in other parts of the lore. Namely the recurring theme of "using up the planet".

It first appears here, in the mechanical duck level up material.

(note the use of the words "perpetually" and "machine".)

This says clearly that Xuihcoatl had indeed pondered this conundrum and went against it.

Then we have this other instance of "using up the planet", the allegorical tale of the day king.

(note the use of the same words, "perpetual" and "machine".)

I had first thought this was a tale about Khaenri'ah (because "perpetual motion machine" is a Khaenri'ahn concept, but now it seems it was as old as the dragons). However, after the moon lore, I realized this could also go for Phanes. He did try to "perpetuate" this cycle into infinity to attain "eternity".

Also, since Xui was wary about reincarnation, then it stands to reason that the one that applied the reincarnation system Lusalim was working on was Phanes and not the dragons. (and we established in my previous theory post that it was applied because Neuvillette is walking proof.)

There is also another weirder case though, that it was not Phanes, but actually really was Khaenri'ah, that eventually found the dragons' research and applied the reincarnation system. Hence them getting cursed with immortality so they cannot die and reincarnate and use up the planet and doom it in the process. But for some inexplicable reason (could be because they are vishap people), it also applied to the dragons, hence Neuvillette got reincarnated but only after the cataclysm. (He was dead for a while, this explains why the timing. It happened one century after the cataclysm when he's been dead for millennia... rather odd timing.)

This also kind of aligns with how intrinsically connected the Khaenri'ahns are to the dragons. We have yet to know why for sure, but Khaenri'ahns are full of dragon motifs (just look at Thrain), and there is also the Nibelung/Alberich connection. Those two names come from the same story and if you know it you understand why it's so weird we have an Alberich in Khaenri'ah. Not to mention Rhinedottir "gold". There are also other weird coincidences, like Irminsul the king that is named after the dragons' tree.

Then, there is the slightly crazier theory that sort of combines all of this. That Khaenri'ah, being hidden from Phanes' gaze and not being a part of the system of the seven, never got Phanes' reincarnation update, so they made their own. And it "competed" with Phanes' system so they were "inhibited".

And the curse "must" stand... like it was not about punishment at all.

She forsook her own rule for it... That's how necessary it is.

Also

In any case, reincarnation seems to be a bad idea in Teyvat, but it also seems at least someone didn't care. We have yet to see who for certain though.

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The Similarity Is Astonishing and I Cannot Let It Go to This Day.

the fangs, the eyes, the thing on the head...

I already wrote theories on how Ved and Nibbie could be connected so I will spare you the rant this time. I just needed to show this again.

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"Dragon Lord of Darkness"

Nibelung, Takoja Ianikuinen, dragon king, dark dragon king, black-winged lord, dark-winged lord, primeval blacksmith, great father of genesis, formidable father, forger of the earth’s bones and the tripled moons, eternal workman, lord of two natures, and now dragon lord of darkness.

The only titles I excluded were ones that were not officially proclaimed as Nibelung's, but they seem connected nonetheless, like "king of darkness" and "vinster king".

I know this is like the third time I say there is a connection between all these "dark" "kings", but this is really stacking up. And for some reason, what I have deduced from the temple of space NPCs, is that humans after hyperborea (the age when nibbie returned in the war of vengeance), do not know there even exists a dragon king. And those from hyperborea call him the dark dragon king. It made me believe humans might call him just dark king these days, especially with my hunch that he might be in human form now. Like Neuvillette. Which also fits with my Khaenri'ah are vishap people theories.

In any case, if you remove "dragon" from what Columbina calls him, you get "lord of darkness". And though I cannot remember where exactly, I feel like we heard that before too.

Which is kind of ironic all his titles these days are "dark" when he is like, light itself in this world... or used to be at least. I have no idea the extent of the effect the abyss has had on him. Quite strong apparently.

Can't wait to see his "masterpiece" myself though.

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The Reaver is Naught but a Fraud

Since writing this theory about how Nibelung could be the vinster king or have possessed said king, I have revised more lore and realized I was right about Phanes not having created anything at all. Not Irminsul, not the leylines, not the humans. Nothing.

According to Kukulkan and the lord of the night, Phanes modified the leylines. The leylines existed before Phanes. So it stands to reason that so did the tree. Which means Nibelung is the one that created the tree, Irminsul. So the chances of Nibelung being king Irmin, as in my theory, increase.

Also, these two accounts tell of humans as being "brought" or "tossed" here. Making it highly likely Phanes did not even create the humans.

Then there is these two accounts which prove Nibelung might have become one with the abyss and its will was now his which is why the abyss woke up his sovereign. That gives me more confidence that the voice that mimicked Vedrfolnir could be Nibelung's will. Another theory of mine.

There is also Nicole's teaser which just exacerbates the idea this Phanes brought his shit to Teyvat, tried to make something of it that was never meant to be nor was ever his, then failed miserably, and now he can't deal with the consequences.

Just give Teyvat back to Nibelung already.

In any case, I just wanted to share the proof I found that no creation so far has been proven to be Phanes'. He only steals for himself and modifies to his convenience.

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Vedrfolnir, More Than a Visionary

Our trusty visionary Vedrfolnir seems to be more than just a clairvoyant human... so I will proceed to discuss and theorize about the interesting points about Vedrfolnir in the new 6.1 quest.

First, his regenerative abilities. According to Rerir, he has no doubt he can recover his sight in half a day because of his "abilities".

You might think his abilities are just his visionary abilities... but I'd like to argue about that. How would seeing the future obviously (according to Rerir) help with healing?

Answer; it probably doesn't (but who knows for sure, Teyvat has its own laws). I'm inclined to believe that he has great regenerative abilities. And that these abilities are what he put into the ring he gave Dain to reset his body.

They could also be "resetting" abilities... but that would just make him even more special. Why CAN he do something like that way before becoming a sinner? It only makes sense if you consider him special from the very beginning.

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The second point is his other ability. The ability to accurately see the future. It seems he is the only one that can do it this way. Others glean from the stars or hydro or something, but only he seems to be so accurate that all who know him know he is always correct.

This further proves my point that he is no normal human. Who knows, maybe too much pure bloodedness made him a dragon... maybe even Nibelung reborn... (insert my vishap people theory here).

I mean, he talks about vicious dragons like he's met them.

I actually find this comparison quite odd because at some point I believed Irmin could be Nibelung in human form (like Neuvillette)... or at the very least in cahoots with Nibelung.

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The third point is the Voice™.

The Voice could be just the voice of the abyssal will mimicking Ved... And since the abyss was brought in by Nibelung himself, I think there is a chance the abyssal will is Nibelung (or at least his will). In any case, don't you find it odd that it's mimicking Ved specifically?... (maybe he really did meet the dragon king recently).

And if the Voice actually is Ved, that means it's Ved from the future trying to manipulate Ved from the past to take the abyssal power, which is what created future Ved in the first place. A neat little time paradox for our temporally endowed visionary. How fitting...

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The final point is Dain. Dain was so obviously sheltered from everything in a way that tells me the Voice™ is most likely Ved.

Dain wasn't manipulated like the rest. Dain had a choice in whether he took the abyssal power or not, whether he became a sinner or not. Dain was given a ring to spare him from the worst effects of the curse.

Dain was always the odd one out...

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My Vishap People Theory Is No Longer a Theory

The Tsaritsa has fae ears. Fae are made from dragon remains. The Khaenria'hns are descended from the Tsaritsa. This just means that Khaenri'ahn do in fact have draconic origins.

This is a theory that I have been developing for the last few years and made countless posts on and compiled a lot of evidence for. It started ever since Enjou said this actually:

So yeah... I guess I can now move on and focus on dragon theories and Nibelung.

(i did not expect the confirmation to come from a comment in a live stream but here we are XD)