feel like a lot of the convo around hoax and renegade, and a lot of the themes of betrayal and endings on evermore, were very quickly brushed over because people didn’t feel like they could talk about it without being intrusive. but they were big themes, that made a really big comeback on midnights. and even then I don’t feel like people wanted to connect those themes to the newer work.
i know good faith people felt intrusive, but honestly, a part of it was simply being too parasocially attached to their relationship.
i was just telling waves this in dms that in this post-folklore world, i have tired of how this fandom lets fear of being intrusive or disrespectful keep us from having interesting discussions about the themes in her art. some of these themes are blatant, and others require some reading between the lines, but it's not really that hard to see if you try to be clear-eyed or simply have your lit major glasses on. in this way, i 100% sympathize with people who say the muses are way too important to some people. people's love for joever hobbled a lot of good discussion opportunities.
i want to believe that joever and ttpd have broken this habit, but we shall see in ts12 and beyond.
