#wild speculation time

[sepiidae]

More wild speculation time but the imagery + phrasing combo make me think said guild may be tied to the Wizard's Court

[sinnabonka]

It’s cursed speculation time: worst case scenario

I’m drunk Chuck and this post is my design for the ending. Or, I am Gabe from “Mystery Spot” and i am here to teach you a lesson.

Disclaimer: I believe with my whole heart that nothing from this post is anywhere near what we are getting. It’s me being sarcastic. It’s a joke. I think I’m being hilarious, please don’t take it away from me. None of this should be taken seriously. On the opposite, the solemn goal of this post is to show that you should put all the negativity aside and stop worrying. We are up for a happy end!

You can check my opinion here and here.

About ep 19 here.

Light, camera aaaand action!

Cas is not coming back. He just isn’t. The best season arc ever written in Supernatural? Oh no, you are just seeing things again.

Has been to empty before, bounced back twice? Naaaah, this time it’s different. This time it’s for good. No further explanation, just take my word for it.

Regarding Dean. He is not feeling this way about Cas, he can’t reciprocate and he won’t, this was a strictly brotherly relationship for him all way long. The looks? The jokes? The prayer? The parallels with Cain and his wife, with Sam and Eileen, Charlie and Stevie? The despair every time he loses Cas? He’s just a flirty little drama queen, sweetie, and you are delusional.

Sure, he is brokenhearted by the loss of a friend, but never mentions to either Sam or Jack what has really happened in the bunker. Why? Castiel is gone, that’s enough. No reflection on the matter whatsoever, they won’t ever speak of him again.

Character development who? Dean is still an angry man with his rock music, his car and his daddy issues, with “DON’T DESERVE - DON’T CARE” tattooed on his knuckles.

Cas’ confession goes in vain, as well as his sacrifice. Dean doesn’t get the message.

Dean keeps the jacket on as a reminder how hard he fucked up with the whole kill Bill(y) idea. It’s the coal fueling his anger, you know, the only thing Dean Winchester knows.

There’s also guilt, caused by the idea that, at the end of the day, Dean is the reason Cas is dead. Silly angel puts another brick in the wall of his self-hatred. The wall so high he soon won’t need Falcon 9 to reach Mars.

Forgiveness? Redemption? Learning, discovering new things about himslef for at least the last five years? Uh-huh, thanks, but no thanks.

Jack who? Something definitely went wrong with Billy’s plan of taking Chuck out, but we just pretend it never happened. We need Jack to sacrifice himself somehow, for the only acceptable ending, so he simply goes supernova. Again. But this time doesn’t miss.

What about Ruby? What about “you made it loud”? What about Lucifer attempting to get out? “Last time it took all the archangels to cage me” anyone?

Just sweep it all under the rug and forget it ever happened, for god’s sake, it’s not like every second of the show has to actually mean something.

The issue of Jack dying is also never addressed ever again, it just was meant to end this way. No biggie. His troubled relationship with Dean? Their touching conversations with Cas and Sam? The character’s arc screaming “I’m perceived evil, but I don’t want to be” not finished? Come again?

The show is about family. The Winchester family. And following the logic of never ending brothers’ deathly ping pong, it all ends with one of them dying during the fight. To save the second one, of course.

Which one? Dean always throws scissor, so it’s kinda predestined.

How? Heroically, given his unhelthy and unhelpful tendency to put everyone but himslef first. He didn’t even have to die, we see it clearly later, it’s done just for the sake of the Winchesters early seasons dynamics. Dibs on dying first!

Bobby? Eileen? Charlie? Another twenty humans? Sorry, kinda forgot to write them back into the script after they’ve vanished.

Let’s say they are not dead, just away. That’s a happy thought, right?

Everyone we cared about for years is either dead or gone, monsters are still lurking under the kids’ beds, but at least God is dead. That’s a win!

Fifteen years, a few apocalypses, a handful of deathes - yet no reflection, no regret, no lessons learned. The message from the creators: no matter what’s the journey, you still end up where you begun.

The last Winchester takes Impala, salts and burns the dead, and finally drives back to Stanford, following the dream of finally doing law after the exhausting years of killing, being killed and all the side effects.

And to celebrate the beginning of his normal life, Sam hits a dog, for crying out loud.

Happy end!

[catgirlcaliphate]

Since we're all speculating wildly about who Nona is...

I'm thinking Gideon's soul, damaged by her time in the River and severely missing her memories, in Harrow's body.

[spiritofsnows]

Someone else has probably brought this up already, but i was talking to my sister about what’s gonna happen at the end of this tour cycle, (especially since last time, papa 3 was bodily removed from office as it were) and they mentioned that those plague doctors sure did look like they were looking for something...

And anyway now i have to live with the possible ramifications of that observation

[flying-elliska]

I'm getting this feeling that they moved a lot of emotional beats forward so that they could add more drama and we're going to see some actual differences in plot now.

I hope we will ; we've had a lot of girlfriend drama already, much more than og, it would feel tiresome to go through the whole 'oh no he's more into his girlfriend and he was just playing' thing again, because we're been there before. In og the first beat was 'oh he's just a straight guy nvm' ; but we didn't get that here because after the piano scene, there was clearly a sense that they knew they were attracted to each other. Besides at this point Eliott and Lucas's relationship just seems much further along, much more intense. In the OG you had 'I'm not in love' playing and they were both smoking during that cuddling scene, they were high on each other but there was still a level of playing it cool, no big deal.

Here...not so much. (Both are amazing, it's just different.) Besides, the mystery of 'what is Even playing at'...for a lot of us, we already know and they must be aware of that, as they seem to play with expectations, and use the fact that their audience is partly aware of the story, in the story itself. So tension has to come from other places than 'oh no he's just playing with me' - because if they went for that too much, it would somehow cheapen the cuddling scene I think. If they make us doubt Eliott's intentions now, it wouldn't feel realistic. He doesn't have this cool guy facade Even had, he's much more obviously vulnerable, we already know that he's lonely, that he's been doodling about his encounters with Lucas, that he saw him on his first day of school. We know they're both incredibly into each other and so do they. Of course Lucas is insecure enough to believe that he chose Lucille again but I don't think it would be very satisfying storytelling if they centered that too much in terms of dramatic tension.

So where would the new emotional beats come from ? We are obvs getting Lucas talking about his mother's issues and this might deter Eliott. I think however this time the fallout of Lucas's being outed will be much bigger. I am expecting his friends will not all be supportive. And the girl squad will be involved somehow too ? Basile is probably going to do something stupid (regarding Daphne maybe), and Arthur might support him, dividing the boy squad. Chloe is mad but she seems to blame Eliott, so does she know enough to out Lucas ? What about Lucas meddling a little with Emma and Alex's relationship, or what happened between them in the past, could that resurface ? With the ranking videos and shit too, I feel like they're setting up drama between the two squads. It feels like such a powderkeg. Did Arthur make that forum post and is he actually even more repressed than Lucas (and has a crush on him or sth) ? There are so many ways this could explode - with Lucas in the middle and Eliott mostly out of the picture...this is not going to be fun.

There's several pictures of them sitting together in the school though, if i'm not mistaken and they do belong to this season - then that means that them being shown together in the school has like, a big narrative importance, cause we never saw that with og - if the drama involved more people then the resolution would be logically showing 'yeah we're together fuck off'

Yeah this is just wild speculation basically. They've done a good job so far of making it work, so whatever drama happens, let's trust them before we get on the barricades this time lmao

[sepiidae]

I THINK this is the who's who for the gods on the trailer tapestry

Tantalizing to think we might be getting deeper insight into The Six, but especially the deposed ones though there's a chance that's Grenth and not Dhuum

[sepiidae]

and if we do get more of the Wizard's Court pleeeeease Anet more of Mabon can he please take his mask off, Snargle doesn't exist yet for that to be a concern, pleeeease

[sinnabonka]

Skeleton dude on promo photos is Misha. At this point why the hell not.

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You can’t just come to my ask box and bombard such a thing at me while I’m trying to work here, man!

(What is real? I don’t know anymore, I lost my mind the day I’ve watched the show for the first time back in 2008. I won’t be even surprised if you are right. I won’t, I swear. )

I mean, I’ve been thinking about it. And know what really concerns me, dear nonny?

WHY THE HECK THEIR CLOTHES LOOK SIMILAR?

Also, this dude kinda gives me the Uriel vibe?

So, if we agree the big dude from the barn is Uriel...

We know what else is happening there.