#winchester dynamics

[nooooahhhhh]

Do you ever think John Winchester was jealous of Dean in a way he could never admit?

He’s the one who taught the boys that “family” is all they have, the one who conditioned Dean to make Sam his entire world as his protector, caretaker, stand-in parent. But in doing so, John built a bond that even he wasn’t part of anymore.

Imagine the way that must’ve felt on hunts. Something goes wrong, Sam’s in danger, and for one gut-wrenching second John thinks he’s too late. He’s already halfway to reaching for his son only to realize Dean’s already there. Dean’s already holding him, already the one Sam clings to, seeking comfort.

And that’s not even Dean’s fault. It’s John’s own making. He created this dependency, but now he’s on the outside of it. Sam’s instinct isn’t to go to his father for safety, it’s to go to his brother. And somewhere deep down, that must’ve burned.

Because John didn’t just lose Mary. In a way, he lost the right to be “home” for his sons too.

[saccharine-dean]

i think we should have a fic where season 2 dean, who just found out his father wanted sam dead because he's "dangerous," meets season 13 dean, who wants jack dead because he's "dangerous." and s2 dean can't understand for the life of him how he got this way, what his future self could possibly be thinking to condemn a child that hasn't yet done anything wrong, and then s13 dean shouts, "he's a monster!" and s2 sam, who's been by dean's side this whole time, goes deadly quiet. and then s2 dean beats the shit out of his future self

[casually-dreaming]

Been listening to Adrianne Lenker songs recently... thought of them through the lens of SPN and they've really been interesting to me.

anything- sam and jess to me. or sam and dean's complicated brotherhood, not that I have experience in the sibling department to be sure on this

half return- little sam and dean just after mary died

not a lot, just forever- dean and cas, I think. idk. it has just enough yearning and want mixed with the way they want things to go while being tainted.

forwards beckon rebound- probably sam and dean, especially somewhere around season 5 or midway through season 13. anytime they have conflicts that are more emotionally rooted, I think

my angel- the obvious answer is dean and cas, but could also be a strange metaphor with sam and his autonomy- or rather, frequent lack thereof. how he wants to cry out for it but never finds a way to in time

come- ellen and jo harvelle. oh man.

zombie girl- how I think sam is as a character- sort of strange, vacant, potentially dangerous, but a gentle giant with a lot under the surface if you're soft enough and take the time to know him, and then quickly becomes something you want to keep learning about and staying with as you hear more of his answers and understandings

ingydar- another sam one (biased) but could be any character. has the vibes of sam and mary's estranged mother/son relationship

two reverse- s2 finale, i think. any time one of the winchester boys dies without the other

heavy focus- early seasons, particularly dean I think. the desire to try and appear tough, when he's a little bit sentimental for times captured only through polaroids and snippets of memories from a childhood where he had a full, honest-to-god family

These may not be educated or reading into the lyrics 100% but this is at least what they're like to me, take it or leave it :) ah the places my mind takes me late at night

[sammygender]

i just feel like looking at precanon dynamics going ‘oh the main reason sam and john clash is because they’re sooooo similar’ is ignoring actual canon and implication in favour of taking a specific comment about a specific arc of sam’s that dean makes and running with it.

for one it’s missing all the context which is. this isn’t two random people who clash for unknown reasons, this is a father and the son he’s actively abusing and neglecting. sam has a right to be angry!! it’d be more concerning if he Wasnt angry (a la dean)!!

also just what we do see in canon is like. totally the opposite. john’s always hated the fact that sam’s different from him… that sam wants different things, doesn’t want to hunt, a different life…. DEAN’S the one who tries to be identical to his father. whether he succeeds is another story (i don’t think he’s innately very like john but i do think he leans into the same coping mechanisms and behavioural patterns, wholly for the worse!) but john seems to mostly believe him. even going by the journal which like. i know people don’t take as canon but i like it <3. john thinks dean’s practically a mini him (ofc he Isn’t but) and that sam reminds him of mary. 🤷‍♂️ ofc you can still see sam and john as being similar in some ways. i can certainly see it and i’m sure i’ve written it. kids r often like their parents. but 1 that’s not, like, the Secret Reason they’ve always fought so badly and 2 sam is like john sometimes but he’s also like mary who’s like dean who’s also still like john. and sam and dean are often like each other. i already went on about this in my last post so i’m repeating myself but. reject the false binary inside your head where a sibling like. picks a parent and grows up to identically be them.

[saccharine-dean]

To Be Honest there may be something of psychological importance about my need to project things from me and my brother's dynamic onto the winchesters but: who cares. anyway i'm actually so upset we have barely ANY stupid nicknames thrown out in between sam and dean banter. like nicknames that probably Did start with their names but have now just progressed to "anything with the same starting letter." i'm talking shit like sam-som, dingus, deanbean (often shortened to "beans"), sorbet, samba,

[feathersandflannel]

sam, you're so judgey LET DEAN SING, DAMMIT

[raziella]

woman: i just watched the person I love die; there is no normal after that

sam: *has died multiple times*

dean: *has died multiple times*

sam: well, back to normal (•‿•)

[raziella]

Sam knows that Dean is lying about knowing Sam was alive, because Sam knows Dean would never leave him in that situation, i.e. not breathing, defenseless against approaching werewolves.