#yjdc

[happyfirstpri]

DC:YJ #4

everyone go check on your timkon mutuals

PLEASE HE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT TO SAY-

the whole issue was insane like everyone was fighting and ripping each other a new one holy god 😭😭

also, fitzmartin either didn’t know tim and kon had a conversation about the shittiest time of his life or straight up disregarded it because WHYYYYY would kon say that when he knows damn well about tim’s spiral

[philtatosbuck]

it’s crazy how yjdc was criticizing yj98 & the characters & fandom on how supposedly 

1. tim and kon prioritized each other and left bart out of the bond 

2. how bart was supposedly mean to cassie & treated her as less than the guys

3. how the team was a “boys club” and the girls were left out

and now that it’s over with, somehow people are mostly talking about timkon, disregarding bart & what he did, cassie is being spoken about primarily in the sense of “neither of the boys loved her!” and cissie is being grossly mischaracterized or tossed to the side once again.

it’s almost like using how the fandom perceives & treats them instead of who the characters actually are & what they’ve done to give them an issue to resolve in said comics has actually only made it worse

[gothellewoods]

Am I the only one who finds the attempt at commentary on like, 90s comic book racism and homophobia in dc: yj to feel very hypocritical? Like, you try and make this point, yet Empress, a notable, well liked woc is entirely excluded from the story, except for the one panel where she shows up with the VILLAINS? Seriously, why choose to bring back Cissie over her?

Also, this comic seems to place the blame for all the "problematic" stuff from the og run on the characters themselves and like. While I register young justice was far from perfect, I don't think this story resolves any of the actual problems I had.

If you want to make a point about comic book nostalgia letting us turn a blind eye to racism and homophobia, or argue that racist and homophobic fans look back fondly to the 90s because it was Like That, then why not tell a story focusing on the other characters?

Why not tell a story about Anita, and have the other characters apologize to her instead of cassie? She was written out and forgotten more than Cissie ever was. Why not tell a story revamping the new members from Bendis's run? Sure, I wasn't a fan of it, but jinny hex (who is queer!!) and teen Lantern had a lot of potential. Wouldn't a story where these 3 need to track down the core 4 have done so much more for that message? Made the point feel more genuine?

[harlivy-timkon-supremacy]

If Cassie and Conner really aren't still dating anymore, going off the theory that the context of young justice dark crisis still implies that hasn't changed, then I think it also sets up SO many things in regard to Timkon (since we have canon confirmation Tim is in love with Conner now), and Cassie's own feelings / future relationship.

But also, since rereading YJDC through again, I can see how it could actually end up delivering Cassie and Cissie in a relationship too, which 🥺🥺🥺

Maybe now future Young Justice content can focus on what it's readers actually want going forward 🤞☺️ if only DC will listen now lmao

[radioactive-earthshine]

At least Bart is allowed to be pectorally preponderant in YJ Dark Crisis lol, like, I'm pretty much pleased that he's not been drawn like a little kid, nor also skinny/scrawny, I'm glad he's allowed to be in shape.

I am pleased with all of them in this book when it comes to them visually (once the art flubs were corrected from issue #1) so that is a plus! We are getting GREAT Bart content in YJDC!

I am just hoping the... criticisms... are not our worst case scenario fears and we will have some reveal later that will make them make sense. Such as this reality is just warping perceptions.

Otherwise the anon from two months ago hit the nail on the head; lovely Meghan doesn't have a grasp of basic past DC lore (Kon knew about the kiss, it wasn't Deathstroke that shot Bart it was Jericho in his body), OR very recent series of events either (Kon could not be on Gem World for 'years' it could only be a few months, maybe one year, max).

There are some themes that may indicate she is defaulting to popular fanon (likehavingspeedsterstalkthiswhenthisisanextremerarity) but I am reserving judgement until we see the story in its entirety otherwise it's not fair.

[mariaashby64]

Honestly, Kon coming out as aro the exact same issue Tim confirms the cloning was not 100% platonic is the funniest thing dc could have done.

[otziskiller]

what annoys me about YJDC is that everything feels so shallow

like every single conversation feels like they're going through a bullet point list of things they should say

[philtatosbuck]

the fact some of y’all are writing metas about yjdc and it begins with “are cassie and conner broken up?” like they haven’t been broken up for a fucking decade lets me know exactly who is talking out of their ass because what the fuck do you MEAN