Mena's Tangled Blog

My blog specifically made for Tangled related theories, yapping, etc (My main blog is your-local-cattus-enjoyer ((https://www.tumblr.com/your-local-cattus-enjoyer/)) and I post art and stuff there so check it out ^^)

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

Didn't realize I had asks off.. my bad guys

Since I turned them on, some ask rules!

"Controversial" takes/questions are allowed :] I'm not easily triggered so (if it's something potentially triggering for others I'll add a content warning)

No Varian x Character related things. I'm too attached to my boi to be comfortable with those kinds of things, sorry '^^

No Vat7K related questions please! If you want to ask me something about it ("favorite Vat7k character?" "opinions on vat7k?") please ask me on my main blog! ^w^ (in my bio)

I can't really think of anything else to add, but just know I love yapping and rambling, and also enjoy giving character or episode analyses.

[majorabbey]

"Not in the Mood" and "You're Kidding Me"...

@the-writer1988

You know, @twotangledsisters had a theory about this one that stuck with me; I can't remember it exactly, but the gist of it is that rather than swapping personalities because let's be real personalities are more complicated than that, it brings up a side of the character they tend to keep buried. I like this because I think it fits really well (Eugene being anxious, Cap being childish, etc.). But what does it say about Cass? Mood Potion Cass is carefree. She's overly cheery. It's not that she can't be happy or show that she cares about people; she just does it differently. And she's less in your face about it.

The impression I get is that Cass doesn't allow herself to be carefree. Why would she? In a way, she's been "at work" since she was a child, constantly striving to win others' approval. Four-year-old Cass isn't shown running around playing. She's quiet. She does chores. Between that and the kind of person she is, I doubt she'd allow herself to be the peppy young woman we see in "Not in the Mood"...

Except once. That's where "You're Kidding Me" comes in. Not only is this the first appearance of BABY CASS:

But she is a handful. Certainly a far cry from the little girl we see in flashbacks. @the-writer1988 asked:

Is Cassandra as a child in You’re Kidding Ne reflective of what she was really like as a child after she’d settled with the Captain?

You know what? I think she might be: but with one crucial difference. Baby Cass walks all over Rapunzel, until Rapunzel gets a lot stricter. I don't think Cap took that long to figure that out. Not saying Cass wasn't allowed to be a child - I believe she was - but I can't see Cap standing for the way she misbehaves in this episode. He'd put his foot down a lot sooner than Rapunzel does here.

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

this came across my fyp, and although I haven't touched this acc since my hyperfixation for TTS ended, I would like to also reference this post I made to agree with your take :) https://www.tumblr.com/tangled-up-inmythoughts/800067585114767361?source=share

[newdream3273]

Why do people think Rapunzel's love is first come first serve to the point the series hinted it?

So, a great deal of our fandom believe, no thanks to the series episode 'Rapunzel Day One,' that Rapunzel would have fallen in love with anyone who saved her. That Eugene wasn't special. They didn't uniquely bond. It was just she was grateful and bonded to the first person she met who showed her kindness and the world, and saved her.

And if you speak against this, people get rabid on social media, coveting their AUs where they think characters are so exact you can just interchange them and they'll have the same ideas, same events, same scenarios. Once more, thanks to that damn episode.

But what people don't realize of that episode is that Cassandra knew the story, she knew about the tower she had been told the events of the movie. So she knew what to reenact, how to play things, what to do and not to do. She didn't go into it blindly like Eugene. Her ideas and treatment were genuine, they were a replay based on meta knowledge.

She was just a part in a play that already happened, following a paraphrased script of events.

But that's beside the point.

There's an anime known as Haibane Renmei, in it the MCs are Reki and Rakka. And in the last episode, Reki tells Rakka to try to hurt her that she only wanted salvation and that it didn't have to be Rakka, there was nothing unique about their bond, it could have been anyone.

This is treated as a TERRIBLE thing to say that wrenches them a part until Rakka realizes she was lying and does save her. This is a line given to make Reki a bad person in that moment.

And yet, it's literally what this fandom is constantly saying about Rapunzel and Eugene. That Rapunzel only needed to be saved, it didn't have to be Eugene, nothing special about their bond, and could have been anyone.

Why is this treated as terrible by the anime?

But this is pushed in this cartoon and its fans?

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

The Corona Guard is actually so bad at their job bro

[miranova23]

[majorabbey]

Given that poster we see of Rapunzel in NTLTP, that might just be the case...

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

HELP

[selfishlyspikyemissary]

🌙Tangled the Series Rewrite☀️

Okayyy sooo I just am not the biggest fan of season 3. And this is basically my rewrite of it.

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Changes:

Cass is NOT Gothels daughter. Personally I just didn't really like how the show handled this. It just really muddled up Cassandra's villan arc and her motivations I feel like. we all know how season 3 cass is.

Eugene is NOT the prince of the Dark Kingdom. I dont hate this but like I also never really cared for it. Its interesting sure but the show doesn't do anything with it. To me him being a prince kinda felt pointless since he ended up captain of the guard anyway. His future was already rooted in corona so why make him a prince?? Idk but that's how I feel. If that makes any sense.

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Cass as the princess of The Dark kingdom and Edmunds daughter

It fixes a lot of the core issues with her arc like her claim on the moonstone, her motivations.

Years ago, when Queen Arianna fell ill, King Frederic sought out the legendary Sundrop flower to save her life. King Edmund of the Dark Kingdom warned him—taking the flower would disrupt the balance with the Moonstone. Frederic, desperate and stubborn, ignored him of course.

And the consequences were catastrophic.

The Moonstone destabilized. The Dark Kingdom began to crumble from within.

In the chaos, Edmund managed to evacuate his people, including his four-year-old daughter. To protect her identity as the kingdom’s heir, he sent her away.

When Frederic learned Edmund’s daughter had survived, he convinced himself she would grow into a threat to Corona. So he ordered the Captain of the Guard to find her.

The Captain found her. He was filled with guilt, he chose to raise her as his own, giving her the childhood she’d been robbed of. Cassandra grew up in Corona unaware of her true heritage, which also adds an explanation for why she was never properly allowed into the guard despite being more than qualified.

Season 3 (Rewritten)

When Edmund and Cassandra finally reunite, they quickly form an uneasy alliance. Edmund is relieved and overjoyed to have his daughter back—while also furious at Corona and especially at Frederic.

Cassandra isn’t seeking revenge at first. What she wants is to use the Moonstone to restore the Dark Kingdom, to rebuild what she lost. But that begins to change once Cassandra sees the state the people of the Dark Kingdom are in. I imagine that a lot of the people probably moved to somewhere else to live after the Dark kingdom fell. Corona of course sees Cassandra as a threat and is prepping for the worst.

Also maybe old Corona sides with the dark kingdom. Something I never understood is why these people were still loyal to Fredric. Thier homes got destroyed by the black rocks and Frederic didn't even help them and instead he covered up the truth. They should be mad at him. They lost a lot.

So now Edmund and Cassandra have the support of Old Corona behind them.

Rapunzel, meanwhile, is desperately clinging to the belief that peace is still possible. She refuses to accept that this has to end in a war—with Cassandra or with anyone.

Andddd that's about it. Sorry about the word vomit.

I just love the idea of Cass being the princess of The Dark Kingdom and making Frederic a bad guy.

[your-local-cattus-enjoyer]

Okay guys this is the most notifs I've had since my Sonic era 🫣

[your-local-cattus-enjoyer]

Headcanon that Varian swears a LOT when he's by himself, which makes him accidentally swear in front of other people sometimes.

This however, happens much more often when he's in his villain era because he's so used to being alone. I imagine he started swearing all over the place in The Alchemist Returns, and Rapunzel's just like "D:"

[bad-holmes-impression]

“the alchemist” is not an alter-ego of varian’s, to me.

he’s not the hulk. there’s no threat of “you won’t like me when i’m angry”, because varian doesn’t want to make good on that threat. (except for the part of him that does want to.)

“the wizard of old corona” isn’t entirely a defense mechanism either. (in “the incision always follows”, that’s what hugo sees it as, but he’s only seeing the part he’s feeling most connected to.)

i don’t think that mode varian can slip into is another personality, necessarily (although i would like to see that interpretation!). it’s more like an adrenaline rush… sometimes. and sometimes it’s not.

it’s instinct and blind action and well-thought-out plans. it’s a collection of skills that varian had to learn on the fly. it’s an expansion of things he knew all along. it’s part of him, the too-far progression of his core traits, and somehow the antithesis of him at the same time. maybe it is another personality. maybe it’s his own desires that he usually keeps locked away.

it’s just so compelling, and part of what makes it compelling is how hard it is to describe.

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

Lighthearted and lowkey offtopic, but this post reminded me of it so I wanted to share that I always headcanoned that "The Wizard of Old Corona" was a rumor he intentionally spread to keep people away from his lab. For reason number one, the reason he tells people: to keep people from constantly interrupting his projects. After all he did ask Rapunzel for two months of solitude when he solved the scroll in a mere few days.

And reason number two, the one he keeps quiet and you have to really prod him to get out: He wants to protect himself from the hateful people, who bully him for his endeavors or try to shut him down. Or know nothing about alchemy, and insist that he's using witchcraft and needs to stop.

We know from Great Expositions, even though this line was mostly joking, he spreads rumors about himself like that. "Rumor has it that my invention is a shoe-in for first place! I started the rumor ;)" And just because of his personality, and the fact that he's a 14 year old boy, that he would totally be the person to spread rumors so people think he's some COOL and INTIMIDATING figure.

I also imagine that he probably started the rumor as something like "Great Mad Scientist", but as rumors go, and with what was already said about him, it probably morphed into "Wizard" instead. Since he corrects Rapunzel and Cassandra when they assume he's a wizard.

Related to your post though, I completely agree. I've always seen his "evil" self as just him, but he's acting like something he shouldn't have to be. He's been so damaged and harmed by his environment, he's forced to go down a dark path out of desperation. As he puts it in Nothing Left to Lose, he chose to be the villain because he thought it was what would save his father, and bring justice amongst all of the wrong that was committed against him.

Hope this makes sense because it's so hard for me to put my thoughts into words aghhh >.<

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

I love "You're Kidding Me!" so much because it teaches such great lessons about what it's really like to parent kids. Parenting isn't a "one size fits all", and you can't come up with one technique and use it on every child you have. Each kid is going to have a different personality, and thus a different response to what you say and do. This doesn't mean you should abuse your children, just that some need you to be a bit firmer with them!

And it's also fine for both parents to have slightly different parenting styles, as long as you both work together to make your respective styles collaborate and work properly.

[bad-holmes-impression]

You said you wanted asks and I really admire you but couldn't think of anything right now sooo opinions on the Vardaros Goodwill episode? (I talked about it here but idk how correct I am because nobody really saw the post 😔)

aww, thank you!

i fully agree with that post, but please keep in mind that you decide what’s correct. yes, there are canon events that did happen, but you are free to dismiss what is out of character— like you do in that post— and make your own headcanons! please do not worry about the “right” way to approach things like these.

the conflict in that episode was very forced in my opinion, too.

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

YEAH it was so forced lol. you can tell how filler the ep wasss 😭😭

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

Hugo, change my mind

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

Can somebody please explain why they used Faith's model for one of the birds in Freebird???? I'm assuming it was just a mistake on the animators' part or something but like ? ? ?? ? ??

[tangledbea]

No, it wasn't a mistake, per say. Before that episode, Faith had only made one (unnamed) appearance, in "Tangled Before Ever After". At such a point as they were animating "Freebird," they had not yet given her a role in S3, and it was cost effective to use character models they already had instead of making whole new ones.

All the miscellaneous people who had been turned into birds appear previously in the series at some point, mostly as background characters, which Faith was at that point.

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

Ahhh I see!! That makes plenty of sense and I thought that could be the case, but I couldn't remember if Faith made a noticable appearance before the episode or not Thank youuu

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

Can somebody please explain why they used Faith's model for one of the birds in Freebird???? I'm assuming it was just a mistake on the animators' part or something but like ? ? ?? ? ??

[nerdasaurus1200]

I almost wanna count this as a feat of Cass's strength, but then again Varian probably weighed like two pounds in season 1

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

This scene always makes me giggle because... Rapunzel isn't even phased or anything. She's just. standing there. Like she knows Cass is gonna do this stuff no matter how much she protests, so she's just accepted and learned to dissociate while she violently threatens people 🤣🤣

[mooncalf87]

What if Varian went with the gang in season 2 guys. . .

Someone couldn't decide what background to use so you get both

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[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

I actually really really like the idea of this AU, because instead of his punishment being prison, he would get like a therapy + community service mashup. Obviously Frederic wanted to put him in prison, but Rapunzel persuaded him, and with his newfound "Rapunzel doesn't need someone to overprotect her" lesson, he would concede to it.

Rapunzel probably said something along the lines of "Please, just let me take him with us as his punishment. It could be.. community service! And I can help "rehabilitate" him, too." I imagine part of her motivations for this is to make up for her not helping him in the past- this is what she can do to help. Plus, his alchemy probably wouldn't hurt, right?

Then Cass chimes in with "Yeah, plus I'm sure being stuck in a wagon for who knows how long with these bozos is prison in itself,"

Note this would not be a Moonstone Varian AU xD Those are already common enough, so I think this kind of AU would be better

[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

Oh my gosh, to add onto this, I think Frederic (and basically everyone else on the ride 💀) would insist that, at least until he is more trustworthy, Varian be handcuffed most of the time? Something to that effect.

Punz: "No, no. There is no way I'm doing that. Yes, he did some.. awful things. I mean, he tried to kill my mom and Cass but... he lost his father. And it was my fault that he broke, because I never checked on him."

Eugene: "Sunshine, please. I know you want to trust him, and you want him to feel as welcome as possible, and you care so much about people! But the wounds are still fresh, and he's still angry. And for the safety of not just yourself, but all of us with you, let's just keep him in cuffs until he's not so..... upset."

Also during the first few episodes, I'm thinking before the island, he's just brooding constantly lol. It's actually mostly out of stubbornness though. About midway before the island, he becomes guilty and remorseful on the inside, but still stays acting cold. There will def be a scene where Rapunzel starts getting through to him, and he's being vulnerable like before, but something happens that makes him act cold again

[mooncalf87]

What if Varian went with the gang in season 2 guys. . .

Someone couldn't decide what background to use so you get both

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[tangled-up-inmythoughts]

I actually really really like the idea of this AU, because instead of his punishment being prison, he would get like a therapy + community service mashup. Obviously Frederic wanted to put him in prison, but Rapunzel persuaded him, and with his newfound "Rapunzel doesn't need someone to overprotect her" lesson, he would concede to it.

Rapunzel probably said something along the lines of "Please, just let me take him with us as his punishment. It could be.. community service! And I can help "rehabilitate" him, too." I imagine part of her motivations for this is to make up for her not helping him in the past- this is what she can do to help. Plus, his alchemy probably wouldn't hurt, right?

Then Cass chimes in with "Yeah, plus I'm sure being stuck in a wagon for who knows how long with these bozos is prison in itself,"

Note this would not be a Moonstone Varian AU xD Those are already common enough, so I think this kind of AU would be better

[nerdasaurus1200]

If Rapunzel had social media she would totally have an account just for posting her art