I wonder if regular servants in the royal palace of Arles also got the fancy foods, the same as Damen recieved
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I wonder if regular servants in the royal palace of Arles also got the fancy foods, the same as Damen recieved
I love how Louis' torture is having his head cut off and propped on a platter so that his only option is to listen to Armand who is pressing all his buttons.
And then Lestat's hell is just reliving his life all at once with all the horrible people in it. And I think Daniel knows he himself isn't so good of a sort of buttons presser when the subject is not the one talking, so he just let him reminisce.
Something about how hell can be created, and how sometimes one can be dragged back into it.
Armand is the most diabolical of them all. Go my evil manipulator. You're insane! Yeehaw.
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Laurent's sin
I also decided to write about Laurent, but I warn you that Laurent drives me crazy, I have A LOT of thoughts about him. Since all the books are Damen's POV, many things about Laurent are up to us to interpret. So I also warn you that everything here is MY thoughts, and I know that sometimes I get lost in them. Laurent is one of my favorite characters, so I love seeing other people's interpretations, even if they differ from mine. There are things here that are more speculation since we don't have much information given by Laurent himself.
Laurent’s sin is wrath. Laurent's wrath is so great that it leaves him blind sometimes. Laurent is not the type of person who waits to truly know someone to have an opinion. He hates people from the go and waits for them to prove that they don't deserve his wrath. Laurent looks for the worst in others. It doesn't matter if someone is a great person, practically a saint, if they do something that isn't 100% honorable, Laurent will hold on to that one thing to classify that person as evil. So yeah, Laurent hates a lot of things and people. But most of all, Laurent hates himself most.
For my college degree, I had to do extensive research on victims of sexual abuse who developed PTSD. So I read and heard many stories from victims and I can say that one of the characteristics that most (if not all) of these victims have is that they feel GUILT. In my work, I basically analyze the defensive reactions that people who experience a violent event can have. For example, during sexual abuse, the victim can enter a state of tonic immobility or dissociation, where even though they really want to defend themselves, their body remains immobile. It is a 100% biological and involuntary reaction. But many victims do not know or do not understand this and so after the abuse happens, they feel like they should have done something, fought back, and defended themselves from the abuse. That is why many blame themselves. But what I mean by this is that Laurent probably feels this way. After he understands what his uncle did to him, Laurent most likely feels guilty. He must blame himself for not fighting his uncle, he thinks he somehow allowed this to happen to him. What would Auguste think if he knew this, that Laurent wasn't able to protect himself? So this guilt develops into self-hatred. Laurent's wrath is much more towards himself than against the world. Laurent hates the naive and vulnerable boy he became after his brother's death. He thinks that's why his uncle abused him: because he let him.
After Laurent realizes all this, he forces himself to change. He doesn't want to be vulnerable and weak anymore. He creates a personality that is the extreme opposite of that. He becomes cold, does everything to become physically stronger, and represses all emotions (except anger). He doesn't repress his anger because anger is, in fact, the only thing that keeps him alive. Anger and the desire to take revenge. Laurent also hates this character he had to create to protect himself. Because if he needs mechanisms to protect himself, it's because he's still vulnerable. I swear, Laurent's mind must be a living hell with so many contradictory thoughts. He knows he has become a bad person, he doesn't like it, but he is very afraid of being different.
He wants to take revenge on his uncle, but not just kill him, he wants to take revenge on his uncle by proving that he can be better than him, more intelligent. Laurent not only wants to beat his uncle, he wants to see his uncle lose, again and again. It may seem like the same thing, but it's not. Laurent tries hard to see through his uncle's schemes and plans meticulously to make all these schemes work in his favor, which he knows irritates his uncle more than anything. I would even say that for the last few years, Laurent has been in a limbo where he feels "comfortable" with these "games" between him and his uncle. Everything changes when he realizes that his uncle really wants him dead, because until then Laurent didn't think that, or didn't let himself think about it, which is more likely. Here is the irony of how Laurent is more like Damen than he lets on. Laurent knew that his uncle didn't love him, but he still didn't want to believe that his uncle would kill him in the end.
Meeting Nicaise and Aimeric is the closest Laurent comes to thinking that maybe the guilt he feels over his abuse isn’t justified. Because he sees himself in both boys and he can, from an outside perspective, understand that neither Nicaise nor Aimeric are to blame for the abuse they suffered. But he represses these emotions, especially with Aimeric. When Laurent freaks out at Aimeric, he’s freaking out at himself. It's the first time Laurent is capable of causing harm to himself, looking at the living mirror that is Aimeric. The craziest thing to me is how Nicaise and Aimeric's deaths, without Damen showing up at the end, are the only alternatives for what would happen to Laurent too. Murder or suicide (sacrifice).
Besides obviously wanting revenge on his uncle, Laurent wants revenge on Damianos, the man who killed his brother and then started his years of abuse. This anger and hope of one day getting revenge on Damen is also what keeps him going. Even more than the anger towards the Regent. Because, at the end of Kings Rising, when Laurent is free of the anger he feels towards Damen, after he accepts that Damen is not to blame for his years of abuse (he admits that his uncle would do the same regardless), I believe that Laurent finally admits something he always knew: he would never win against his uncle. Not alone. And, even now in a "relationship" with Damen, Laurent still feels alone. Now without the anger towards Damianos and with the conviction that he will not win, all that is left is self-hatred. And that is what drives him to sacrifice himself. He's all alone, not even his wrath is there anymore. And the love he feels for Damen still isn't enough to quell this self-hatred.
This makes me think that Damen, in a very twisted way, saved Laurent from himself from the beginning. I even thought that if Laurent didn't care about Damianos, maybe he would have killed himself right after he realized the abuse and that he had no chance of defeating his uncle. But no, Laurent is too complex for that, he only sacrifices himself because it would give Damen an advantage to win in the end. Despite all the horror that Laurent suffered and his wrath, he is probably the least selfish character, he would never kill himself to end his suffering, knowing that others are also suffering and that he can do something to help.
In my humble opinion, I think Laurent could be MUCH WORSE. I see a lot of people condemning Laurent as if he were the worst villain, but honestly, I would be much worse, especially against the man who killed my brother. Laurent still gave Damen many chances. Laurent made Damen suffer LITTLE (and it pains me a lot to say that, because I would hate to see Damen suffer more). I believe that the entire time Laurent was torturing Damen, he wanted the opportunity to kill Damen in a more honorable way, perhaps this is what stopped Laurent from killing him when he still had the chance. But this is just an assumption. Sometimes I think even Laurent didn't know what he was doing and what he wanted to do. We need to remember that Laurent is still a 20-year-old who has been isolated from the world for too long. Laurent may be very smart, but he doesn't have the necessary life experience. There's a lot that Laurent doesn't know, but he's very good at pretending he does (even Damen falls for it (and us)). Laurent ultimately regrets what he did, because, again, that was him hiding (protecting himself) behind his villainous mask. He also ends up forgiving Damen once he understands the circumstances under which Auguste died. Something he probably already knew, but didn't want to admit, once again, because that would put an end to the thing that kept him alive.
Laurent finally agreeing to leave Arles to go on border patrol was the biggest turning point in his life. He meets the people of his kingdom, innocent people who have no idea what is happening at court. People who respect and love him. Those who remember him from the past, remember the real Laurent. The freedom he felt from no longer needing to contain his strength. All this and more was important for Laurent to be able to see beyond what his uncle allowed him to see and do. He starts to trust more people, the ones who trust him back. And then that's when Damen starts to see the "changes" and fall in love with Laurent.
This is probably super confusing, but that's how Laurent makes me feel hahahahhaha. What we read throughout the trilogy is still the very beginning of the romance between Damen and Laurent. Damen showing up at the trial was probably a big part of making Laurent realize that Damen's feelings are not frivolous, it's not just a passing attraction for him. Laurent is no longer alone. I go crazy wondering if maybe all Laurent needed was someone stubborn enough for him to start being himself, without having to hide behind masks. Maybe a friend, someone who would look long enough to realize who Laurent really is, like Damen did little by little. Laurent has been alone for so long, with his secrets and his pain. He probably isolated himself like that too for fear of loving someone like he loved Auguste and becoming even more vulnerable (that's kinda what happens with Nicaise). He's certainly done a lot of things he regrets because of his wrath, especially against Damen, so I think Damen will need to work a little harder to prove to Laurent how much he loves him. Just like Laurent will certainly do the same.
I agree with this, but I do look at Laurent's wrath from a bit different side.
I do believe guilt pushes him to hate himself, but I believe he finds power in anger. I'll add on to that helplessness is one of the biggest fears one can have after being abused with no one to help them. He'd do anything to not be helpless again, and since he had no one on his side - he developed the cold and impenetrable persona. Abusers often operate on isolating their victims, and persuading that they're all alone is what works. It worked on Laurent as well.
Laurent was angry, but he was was controlling of himself, never letting any signs of wants and desires to be seen. He doesn't drink, he does not care for pleasures of the flesh, he hides everything he enjoys because it can be used against him. And we know the Regent does use it against him - the public humiliation after flogging Damen; and asking in front of council if he took Damen to bed after the unsuccessful assassination attempt. The sexual abuse ended, but the manipulation didn't. Laurent was very much under his influence as long as the Regent lived.
And when he feels an emotion too big to hide, he slides it under anger. We saw him lash out after Nicasie's death, something he felt guilty about. I also think he was afraid of Jokaste, since he kept the conversation aggravating. We saw him lash out on Damen after meeting him again, but, thankfully, Damen saw through him.
Anger is how he keeps control and hides his weaknesses. And it gave him power, something he was stripped from since Auguste's death. And power can sometimes be maddening a bit, and I think he enjoyed reducing a man with his words. And I don't remember any instances when he did so without a justification (at least good enough for himself). He doesn't destroy an innocent man, but a man he deems worth destroying.
And while I do believe he felt guilty for letting his uncle abuse him, but it wasn't that simple. I think he felt guilty for believing his uncle, for letting him persuade in things. I do think Regent's specialty is mind-games.
I also do think that Laurent let his cold cast-iron bitch personality be the impression of him willingly. If you're known for being unlikeable, there is lesser to work with for manipulation from the Regent's side. I doubt he hates himself for having defensive mechanisms, because he is, very much, still vulnerable. As I said, the abuse continued, just in different format, and he knew this.
It might be contradictory, but I don't believe he outright wants to take the classic revenge on his uncle. He does want to give himself enough power to outrank him, but he doesn't want him punished. I think this is where this gets really twisted - I do think he wanted his uncle to love him. I think that's why he sympathises with Nicaise and Aimeric, because they share the same wish. Nicaise was smart enough to unwillingly entertain the idea that Regent could abandon him; Amieric was destroyed by the abandonment and did everything to win his favor back. That is where the anger at Aimeric is directed at - at the weakness of wanting to be loved by Regent. That despite the evidence, he still let himself be blinded by that want. And assassination attempts from the Regent were probably the last push to completely erase the possibility of being recognised and loved by him.
What else struck me is that Laurent probably worked hard to never be like his uncle. He does not cultivate a favorable image of himself, he takes no pets, and he does not desire power for power's sake. He does not wear jewellery and he does not abuse those under his station (except Damen but that's a different story).
I do love his hatred for Damen, because that's a brilliant showcase in the flaws of his intelligence. He is biased, he is prejudiced, and the hate he holds is simple. And I love how he grows to change his stance, based on evidence that Damen might be a good person all along. Because he was so angry at everyone, it must have felt disappointing when the faults usually proved right, but not in the case of Damen.
And I do agree that travelling to the border is a turning point for Laurent. He learns he is not alone, something that has been ingrained in him for years. It is one of the hardest lessons to accept, that people will help you.
At the end, I do think Laurent would have loved to be like Auguste - well loved and fair king, with people's best interests at heart. And I think he clung on to that, and that it was his driving force to keep himself alive; not the anger, not the revenge (although it is possible). He just had to hide it very well for it to not be taken away from him, as it was done with everything good in his life. Survival is about hiding and attacking, and he had to go through that.
Anyway, that's my take! Only my thoughts.
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What I love about the Captive Prince that the hate at the beginning they held for each other was based on the prejudices already developed in them. They hated each other for the image they both held in their heads, and in times of uncertainty, they chose to cling to that image, not the actual displays of their personality. And it is such a human vulnerability - to distrust and hold on to what you know. Moreover, they also hid their real intentions, to guard themselves and to not let the other know there might be a good person under there.
Examples:
Exhibit A: New evidence emerges to Laurent that Damen might be a decent man
Exhibit B: Laurent has had time to think and turn back to the loathing image he had for Damen
Exhibit C: Damen deemed Laurent as ignoring of him, and yet
Exhibit D: Damen expresses concern about well-being of slaves, and Laurent immediately shuts the possibility down he might do it out of goodnes of his heart
Exhibit E: Damen is surprised Laurent actually helped with the slaves, and Laurent immediately hid behind arrogance to not let him know he actually cares
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This can also been very important core value of fictional characters that drives the plot forward. For example, in the Captive Prince series, both main characters strongly demonstrate scientific attitude, even though it is not used on natural sciences, but their understanding of each other. In this essay I will
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Coworker: I am no longer saying hi to him.
*few hours pass*
The same coworker: he accused me of changing my attitude towards him, which I have not changed.
Me: stares into the camera