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I can't believe this has to be said but every girl in pjotv being skinny stylish and femme with perfectly coiffed long hair is not in any world more feminist than the books. Socially acceptable misogyny.

#pjo #pjotv #black girls always needing to look femme and perfect to be accepted is another form of racism and misogyny!!!#I'm in not saying the books were perfect by any means but good fucking lord #there's definitely nothing interesting you could say about the societal reasons a fat girl with adhd turned into a bully 🙄#there's definitely nothing weird about thalia who's been living on the street for 2 years fighting for her life having salon perfect hair #or getting rid of the messy punk drug store eyeliner Thalia that's a rejection of societal norms and her perfect-looking actress mother #annabeth who can barely remember to brush her hair #which could've easily been translated as uneven imperfect braids because she's a self-taught child

batcavescolony

Percy Jackson but Hestia has a cabin. that is where the unclaimed go because she goddess of home and family. Demigods get claimed faster because when they show up Hestia glares at her siblings, nieces and nephews untill they claim them.

demigods-posts

this is what should have happened 😌

#this is cannon now #in my heart

hashtagloveloses

“how is annabeth head of athena cabin” have you ever met an autistic 12 year old girl. she’s running that shit like the navy

rattyjol

#shes been living in that cabin since the age of seven it has simply molded around her over the years until she is its most constant feature #it would be weird if she WASNT in charge #of course. having a twelve year old in charge DOES mean the older kids have a tacit agreement that they dont have to ask her for stuff #and i think they probably feel indulgent abt her. like this is our little boss baby sister. yea she can do our house inspection. we decided (via @july-19th-club)

#my headcannon was always that annabeth was the head counselor in name #and tacitly in charge of cabin strategy and stuff #but like the day to day running of the cabin was left to her older siblings #esp as the series progressed #Annabeth would be off On Quests #or else doing important research and planning shit #and not really participating in all the camp activities at that point

gins-potter

Some of you guys need to see and understand this

thalia-ace

Also: book spoilers - Gabe IS physically abusive Sally has just always hidden it from Percy. He doesn't see him hit her until the very end of the book, after his quest, and then realizes what's been going on when he's not around.

ofswordsandpens

I can't remember how much of this is implied canon or my own interpretation, but I fully believed that Chiron recognized Percy was a son of Poseidon from the fountain incident with Nancy Bobofit, knew that a child of the Big Three being claimed would be a total shit show, and simply chose not to say a word about it

#oh chiron 100% knew #i think he said some shit like “im reading the signs but i hope im wrong”#(i think he said shit like that several times through the series tbf)#and the number of times he + annabeth exchange knowing looks but dont explain too percy is off the charts

My only real complaint about cotg is the fact that Rick apparently forgot Percy wore the Yankees cap for a fairly extended period of time in The Titan's Curse

(also was it really necessary to make a choice that retroactively introduced additional pain and hardship into Annabeth's life? Hasn't our girl suffered enough?)

#pjo #cotg #cotg spoilers #lowkey im wondering if leah asked if it hurt when annabeth turned invisible #to inform her acting choices #which is an insightful annabethy question #but my man rick you did not have to say yes

So far Chalice of the Gods is a cute sidequest of a book and I mean that in the best way

#pjo #this is like the demigod equivalent of just chilling and hanging out with your buds #also cannon that percy annabeth and grover all live in new york and hang out every afternoon like !!!!#cotg #cotg spoilers #(i guess? not really)

what-even-is-thiss

What’s interesting to me about the conclusion to the original Percy Jackson books is that it finds an interesting middle ground between the “returning everything to the way it was before” and “upending society entirely” plots you often get in young adult fiction.

Realistically, Percy and his friends know that the overthrow of the Olympians is impossible at this point in time, and that the alternatives to the current people in charge is even worse. So the system can’t or shouldn’t be uprooted, and in this particular case the uprooting of the system would cause irreparable damage to the world as a whole.

But. When the main character is offered as a reward the opportunity to join the current system, he doesn’t take it. Instead he says, the system you have in place right now is unfair. Amend it. And instead of choosing immortality for himself he chooses to use his favor to make a measurable difference in the lives of the other people being directly affected by the gods in charge.

And this, to me, is a more realistic view of change and what kids reading the series will likely witness in their everyday lives as they grow up. The current systems in place are rarely perfect enough to leave unaltered and the people looking to upend the system from its roots are often looking to do so for more selfish reasons than they’re letting on. But a person or group can make a small change for the better, and even small changes can make life measurably better, and that’s something worth striving for.

thalia-ace

And regardless how you feel about HoO "The change lasted for a while but now the people in power are back on some bullshit and we have to fight again" is also extremely realistic.

aroaceleovaldez

the “canon” fatal flaw that bugs me the most is that Nico’s is allegedly supposed to be “holding grudges” but LITERALLY EVERYTHING HE DOES SAYS OTHERWISE

the only instances we get of Nico even remotely doing anything with a “grudge” is him spontaneously, randomly, on rare occasion referencing being grumpy at something - THAT HE IS ENTIRELY VALID TO BE UPSET AT - and then does nothing with that. other than maybe continue to be vaguely grumpy about it and then drop it. In fact, Nico is consistently EXTREMELY forgiving to people despite him having perfectly valid reasons to not forgive them. Percy literally choked Nico and ditched him in the Underworld and Nico STILL brought Percy to the River Styx and faced off against Hades to bring THREE gods and an army of the undead to Percy’s aid, despite Hades actively suggesting alternatives to Nico and encouraging Nico to not do that.

Nico’s fatal flaw is so clearly either that he does not let go of things (not the same as holding grudges) OR that he’s far too willing to put others before himself, often directly putting himself at risk instead. He’s too self-sacrificial. He was explicitly willing to trade HIMSELF for Bianca and extremely resistant to letting go of her. He put himself on the line facing against Hades to help Percy MULTIPLE TIMES. He risked getting in trouble with the Underworld to bring back Hazel. He WILLING WENT INTO TARTARUS to try to close the Doors of Death himself. He offered to shadow-travel the Athena Parthenos for Reyna despite knowing it would most likely kill him. Etc. etc. The closest Nico has ever gotten to “holding a grudge” was being mad at Leo for faking his own death, and even then he was only Mildly Annoyed and got over it pretty quickly after Leo returned.

Nico “holding grudges” is a load of bull. Percy’s loyalty? Annabeth’s hubris? Absolutely true. Percy’s loyalty to Annabeth and Annabeth’s hubris are what got them pulled into Tartarus (also, interestingly - Percy’s hubris in TLO and Annabeth’s loyalty taking a knife for him is what nearly got them killed then). Nico, though? Nico’s willingness to put himself on the line for the sake of others is what nearly got him killed in BoTL and TLO and HoO and brought him to Tartarus multiple times, now! “Holding grudges,” yeah, right.

thalia-ace

Do they ever say holding grudges is his fatal flaw outside the time Bianca says it?

She says it's the flaw of "every child of Hades" but we see that not every child of the same God has the same fatal flaw. Also Bianca doesn't seem to be holding any sort of grudges either?

It's possible Bianca was just wrong. Or just telling Nico what she thought he needed to hear in order to forgive Percy at that time.

Thinking of a little one-shot where Bianca has a chance to Zagreus her way out of the underworld Hades style and her boons are from her Camp Half-Blood and Hunter friends

#pjo #percy jackson #bianca di angelo #i know she didnt get a chance to get to /know/ a lot of the half-bloods #but she'd definitely get boons from percy thalia grover annabeth the hunters #maybe characters like silena and beckendorf too who were around when she came to camp #hazel and zoe could be her eurydice/patroclus

Actually having one Musicals Guy to cast in everything until everyone hates him is a necessary part of a balanced Hollywood ecosystem

#broadway #musical theater #lin manuel miranda #lmm #pjo #percy jackson #the slowest (see: most cringe) member of the herd #allows the rest of the herd to survive #james corden #lin #if platt isnt careful about his producer daddy getting him roles he'll be next #he should just stick to his music career

thalia-ace

Rick's biggest miss was not giving Percy, Bianca, and Thalia a Big 3 Trio moment on their quest together. You wouldn't have to know Bianca was Hades kid for it to work, it would've been great in retrospect/reread

thalia-ace

If you think about it, Titan's Curse is the only quest novel where they don't have any random, organic monster encounters. They spend the whole novel being hunted by the skeletons and Dr. Thorn. Despite the fact that it's the only time three Big 3 kids, who supposedly attract a ton of monster attention, are traveling together unshielded.

#i dont count the junkyard #because they wouldnt have been attacked if bianca hadnt tried to take the statue #like that book really needed a random chance encounter #(ideally with the Big 3 seperated from Zoe + Grover somehow)#where the monster comments on how they just couldnt resist the smell #everyone would assume they mostly meant percy + thalia until after

#pjo #percy jackson #thalia grace #bianca di angelo #also it wouldve made them the definitive big three trio #as the only three to spend significant time paired up together #which they absolutely should be

enamamesan-deactivated20221118

percy refusing immortality only for uncle rick to make him 17 forever until the next instalment is the biggest L ever HA.

on the up side, he will forever be able to be eligible to sing “dancing queen” and duet “seventeen” with annabeth

(until the solangelo book tho)

thalia-ace

I mean we've established Percy will do literally anything as long as he does it with Annabeth so he probably doesn't mind too much

The discourse around blonde!Annabeth is so funny to me as someone old enough to remember when the discussion was around wether or not people actually pictured Annabeth as blonde. Because a not insignificant number of people, especially reading as kids, missed or ignored the blonde descriptor the first time around and it stuck.

#percy jackson #pjo #annabeth chase #leah jeffries #i was one of them btw #i dont think i reliably pictured her as blonde until several years into my fandom/fanart teen era #and i read the first book when i was like 8 or something

nicolodigenovas

Are you a ‘Oh my god he’s a kid’ (ecstatic because it’s the first sign of a faithful adaptation that will flourish across the years following Percy as he grows up) or a ‘Oh my god he’s a kid’ (horrified being now grown up by the cyclic realisation that awful things are going to happen to a scrawny teenager) pjo fan or both

thalia-ace

I'm an "Oh my god people are going to get so upset when he doesn't hit puberty at the exact time they think Percy did/should"