"That’s being bisexual with a preference not heterosexuality. a woman who likes other females is a bisexual or lesbian if she doesn’t like males either."
She doesn't like women. She likes men and transmen. That's not bisexual or lesbian. It would be misleading to call herself bisexual.
"If a male/ female is really a homosexual the male/ female will loose their attraction as soon as they find out the person is of the opposite sex. And if the trans identified person didn’t tell them of their trans status they committed rape by deception."
It's wrong to sleep with someone without telling them of your status, but you're incorrect when you say that every single gay person loses their attraction at the point of being told. You're simply incorrect.
"Proof? -if you come at me with brain sex studies you already lost since they’re heavily biased and try to justify the inferiority of females."
They are different conditions with different criteria. Go actually study psychology and learn the medical definitions of words before you go throwing them around willy-nilly.
"One is trying to change an innate attraction often by manipulation, in some countries torture or corrective rape for lesbians and the other is trying to get them reconnect with their natural body."
Gay men and bisexuals can all also experience corrective rape. So can trans people. And it's not just "reconnecting with their natural body", it's ineffective, often torture like, practices that do not do anything to treat the underlying condition - gender dysphoria.
"Where exactly? Because all I see are entitled white teens with attention issues who try be part of the LGB community. I doubt that people in countries where a fucking war is going on worry about their “felt gender”"
Genetically Modified Skeptic did a video a little while ago about fundamentalism in Israel, and his guide was a trans person who lives there iirc. There are lots of trans people around the world, including in war torn countries. Gender dysphoria isn't just about daydreaming about gender, it's a persistent discomfort due to one's sex characteristics.
"Transes with body dysmorphia need a real therapist. Most trans identifieds don’t even have dysmorphia, they just do it for the attention and/ or to fullfill their fetishes. As for the troons who make themselves problems. Yes, if you have nothing significant going on in your life, don’t have friends, a hobby, you start to search for something to do -> you start finding problems that aren’t there. They try to fix things that weren’t a problem to begin with."
Gender dysphoria is treated by transition, and once it's been properly assessed and diagnosed then that's what any "proper therapist" will refer you for. That is what trans people are, and your degrading assumptions that most trans people are doing it for attention, fetish, or loneliness are based on internet arguments with teenagers, who of course have a lot of other shit going on in their lives and aren't the most emotionally well equipped. There are sometimes people who are wrong, who don't have the condition, and a proper therapist can figure out the difference and refer people to the correct treatment for them - to disregard all trans people over the mistakes of a few struggling teenagers is dumb.
"In case of these transes they don’t have physical pain, they don’t have a medical need to remove their uterus or breasts like actual cancer victims do. What evidence is there that it helps? The suicide rate actually increases after transition!"
Physical pain is not the only kind of pain, and gender dysphoria is a serious condition with dangerous consequences and a lot of pain if left untreated. The suicide rate does not increase - if you're basing that nonsense on the Swedish study or that study where people mistakenly thought a lifetime rate was a post-treatment rate, then I've already debunked that. I'm assuming it's the latter, since that's the one that most people defer to... I hope you know the difference between lifetime rates and post-treatment rates.
https://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/129625828802/have-you-done-stuff-on-how-most-post-op-trans
https://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/132497292602/no-the-swedish-study-does-not-say-that
https://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/183438812697/i-really-think-we-should-research-treatments-for
https://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/183501276652/i-really-think-we-should-research-treatments-for
https://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/183438300362/eeveelutionsforequality
https://eeveelutionsforequality.tumblr.com/post/183425718332/i-forgot-to-mention-in-that-chart-the-rate-of
"Are you seriously trying to tell me that the shit we females have to go through from basic street harassement, over enduring on TV-groping and rape fantasies in porn to real rape and murder is in anyway comparable with male victims? The system can’t be in favor of women if it’s controlled by men they just can’t hide the shocking numbers of male crimes anymore so the truth comes to light. I know males can get raped but it’s no where near the numbers of female rape victims."
I literally just told you that even CDC stats show men as victims more when you account for prison and made to penetrate, and with my own country not even counting men victimised by women as rape... is it any wonder that the stats often don't include male victims for bullshit reasons, and therefore inflate the difference. Men are victims of all the stuff you said - street harassment, rape, and murder - as well as being more likely to be victims of violent crime, to receive harsher sentences, to not have their rape even legally recognised as rape, genital mutilation as babies and children being legal. Do you think a little boy being raped by a woman and then it not even legally counting as rape, her getting a lesser sentence, and even potentially her being able to claim child support, is not as bad as some mean words being yelled at you in the street? Because that was what your argument at the beginning of that paragraph seemed to be.
"Until women get the right for abortion, anatomy over their own bodies in medical situations, the same wage, are not potrayed in a sexualizing way in media or demanded to be sexuually available to men I start to believe we have more rights."
Women can get abortions in my country. Men and women can both have or lose bodily autonomy in medical situations, that's the same for everyone. Women have the same wages as men, once you account for hours worked, jobs chosen, etc. Men are sexualised in media too. Men are expected to be sexually available even as fucking children - have you not seen all of the disgusting people who say that teenage boys raped by women are lucky, wanted it, etc?? Again, I talked about rape laws not even including male victims, and you brought the repeatedly debunked wage gap to the table to claim that women have it worse... wow.
"My advice helped other dysphoric females before and prevented them from going through a life-long of painful medication that destroys their body. If she wants to butcher her body she should go ahead though. Nothing I can do."
He's happy with his choice, so leave him be. It's not your job to convert people. Politely advise people to talk to therapists and make sure they've made the right choice, sure, but that's not what you did and you were far from polite. You talked about his private body parts, you badgered him, you keep tagging him after he asked to be left alone, etc.
"Then you don’t know as much about the pharma industry as I do and how many “scientific studies” are actually not believable at all with all the tricks they use. Go on insidiouswife blog to read more about it. She’s skilled in that department."
Me and insidious don't get along iirc. Besides, where I live there's a national health service - now, I don't trust the faceless bureaucrats in charge, I don't trust administration, etc, but I know that the doctors aren't making bank off this, there's not enough centers, there's not enough doctors, they're stretched thin and doing their best to figure out who needs help and give the right help to them. You keep demanding I give you studies, yet you keep saying that you refuse to trust those studies... I've seen that trick from anti-vaxxers and woo salesmen and cultists before, and I'm not an idiot. You don't trust anything that I'd provide you with, and you will twist the wording any which way you like, but you'll keep demanding more sources, more energy, more time, because you think eventually one of them will actually have a flaw and I'll actually buy your snakeoil.
"Because living with body-destroying medication is worse than actually accepting your female body. Next."
You said, in your earlier reply, that escaping via transition was better than living as a woman, and that was why people transitioned... now you're changing your tune and it's actually better to live as a woman, because that's what currently suits your narrative? It's not body destroying. It's a hormone not uranium. If you genuinely have gender dysphoria, treating it actually does feel better.
"As I already told @ilililian she needs to find a better excuse than “don’t trigger my dysphoria uwu”. That’s pathetic. The only thing she’s triggered off is that I don’t cater to her role play."
Stop tagging him when he asked you to leave him alone, you hag. You described body parts that you know cause dysphoria, that's intentionally triggering somebody. Not catering to somebody's dysphoria is one thing, outright setting out to aggravate it by listing things that trigger it is another.
"Transition doesn’t change anything. It’s literally cosmetic surgery to immitate the opposite sex. It’s not something personal anymore if you try to redefine words, trans children and convert homosexuals. I don’t think I’m spooky I’m telling the truth."
Transition literally changes the hormones in your body, your body fat distribution, your muscle mass, your red blood cell count, and I could go on. It's a lot more than a cosmetic surgery, and it's a medical treatment for a medical condition. You're the one trying to redefine words (bisexual, delusion, gender dysphoria, and body dysmorphia, to give a few examples), trying to dictate people's sexuality to them, talking over bisexuals on what their sexuality means, talking over gay people who like trans people, and trying to convert trans people. Nobody here is trying to convert anyone - my argument has consistently been that some do and some don't and that's that. Nowhere on this post did anyone support transition before somebody is old enough to make drastic life decisions. You're not telling the truth, you're preaching an incorrect gospel.
Anyway, I think I'm done arguing with this brick wall, it's pointless.
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