In the next Sander sides episode it's going to be revealed through a series of suspicious in-jokes and shared looks that Logan and Remus have been fraternising and the whole thing is going to be about this scandal between the two, I can confirm because I'm actually the bigger picture in the back of the videos guys
one of my favorite Remus angst hcs is sometimes he gets these episodes where he literally cannot stop spewing intrusive thoughts out loud like he's just stuck
Do you have any headcanons regarding how intrusive thoughts effect Remus? Or how they come about?
I saw somebody say that they think they're like voices in his head that he needs to get out, causing c!Thomas's intrusive thoughts. I think they're a similar kind of compulsion, but I'd love to see what ideas you have ^^
As I was writing this I just now realised that the post I was referencing was yours (^_^;)
So if you have any OTHER headcanons regarding intrusive thoughts (how they affect the others, their cause, what makes them worse, Remus's fav/least fav/worst/best intrusive thought is/was)
Srry 4 rambling XP
That's so funny omg, and don't be sorry because I'm about to double it and give it to the next person
TW: Intrusive thoughts, Gorey subject matter, SH and Suicidal Thoughts/Tendencies
Please don't read if you are more sensitive to these topics, as much as I love discussing darker topics I also don't want to hurt anyone or cause panic attacks <3
NOW ONTO THE HEADCANNONS!
I will touch on the other sides in a sec but I really wanna rant about my personal take on Remus's interusive thoughts.
Ssssso about that original thoughts headcannon, Remus's own Intrusive thoughts are typically a very low hum/buzz of constant noise and ideas. However, very often things break out through the noise, or that noise gets louder. The only way to relieve this is to say them outloud.
Sometimes, saying a few of the silly owns aren't enough. Often, when c!thomas is going through particularly rough patch, the noise gets so unbearable Remus gets locked in a kind of trace like state/episode just letting it all flow out of him.
A lot of what he actually says to thomas and the others are the more tame of his thoughts... unless he's intentionally looking for a reaction then some of the heavier hitters are let loose.
I like to think this is all due to how heavily repressed he is by everything. As stated in his intro episode, repressing Intrusive thoughts often only makes them worse.
And When you're told everything you do, think and say are pure evil for the majority of your life. You tend to believe it... and that has influence over your behavior.
Acting out or testing ideas does help relieve some of the noise, and in his own twisted logic if tests all these horribly harmful things out (mostly on himself) then he'll be giving thomas valuable knowledge on how far they'd be able to push things "in the future"
While Remus's thoughts often reflects Thomas's mental state, a lot of it can manifest due to his own struggles. You cannot tell me this man isn't a LEAST a little suicidal. Common thoughts plaguing him which are really just over exaggerated things he's been told by the other sides. He is bother by hurting thomas, the idea of not being needed, the idea of never being wanted... being alone. Being better off never existing in the first place.
he definitely has some bad habits such as biting himself when overwhelmed, nervous or as a general "soothing" thing.
Buuut anyways, on a lighter (eh) note
His affect on the other sides!!
THIs is probably going to mainly center around the other dark sides since they would logically be around him the most.
Janus: Jan is the side who has the most "immunity" to remus. Having spent so much time with the other side, he's learned how to not only regulate himself but help remus through tougher instances of his own thoughts. He usually deals with remus through meeting the other near their level, treating it as it usually is, a joke. Often amused by some of the crazier ideas, although even he has his limits.
Virgil: Ha... so him and Remus were once on fairly good terms. Back when Virgie had his villain arc, and presented as taking joy from the "suffering" he brought. He'd often bounce "what ifs" off of remus, and actually on rare occasions the unwatchable insanity of what remus could come up with compared to his own worries help calm him down if things got too intense with Virgil's own anxiety. However Remus has also been the side who can get a rise out if Virgil the fastest. I mean did you SEE thomas in WTIT, he was basically just Virgil clutching the control board/silly
Light sidesssss
Patton: Remus just has to fucking appear and Patton is already on edge and ready to grab a puke bucket. He is by far the easiest to distress with the thoughts, but being a seasoned professional at repression is oddly resistant to his own intrusive thoughts. (I've said that too many times.)
Logan: The least affected, and the most shown in cannon so I'm not gonna touch on that more
Roman: His brothers favourite victim, and VERY easy to implant ideas into. Example: The Shrimp Incident
Something about Remus's own thoughts not really being voluntary scratches a special itch in his brain.
Like he's constantly a flood of ideas but he seriously struggles with keeping anything to himself. Especially if Thomas's own mental health gets worse, him serving as a warning sign is sooooo goooodddddd. Aaaand Thomas is having a bad day, Remus "gets more ideas" and his own voices get louder.
It could seriously be an interesting way to bring more depth to Remus, and just so damn good.
Also there's no way these thoughts don't turn somewhat suicidal, especially when remus feels especially repressed.
Remus calls Logan and Orange Jekyll and Hyde respectively as nicknames because he's actually really well read, especially when it comes to gothic-horror classics (underestimated Remus you will always have my heart)
Tbh someone probably already said this, and said this better, but my personal theory for the role of the orange side is that he's Thomas's sense of justice. (Or injustice, that'd be a sick name)
Like, not justice how morality/Patton considers it, but in a more literal/brutal sense. The best way I can think to describe the difference is like, "if I'm nice to someone, it doesn't matter if they're nice back because it's morally right to be nice" vs "if I'm nice to someone and they're not nice back, they no longer deserve my kindness"
Its a very straight-forward way of seeing right and wrong that I think aligns quite easily with Logans thought process, either as a separate side he would find himself agreeing with more, or as a harsher side of himself he gives into at times.
And even though this way of seeing things is mostly deviod of emotion, it does make for a very angry opinionated side, which is how orange seems from what little we've seen of him.
(Also, since everyone and their granny draws orange with a leather jacket, what if he has his vocab cards as sewn on patches on his jacket? Maybe (if orange turns out as justice/injustice/wtv) the patches are logical fallacies and their definitions so he can call the others out on their bs)
(If this doesn't work or sound dumb or smth blame it on the fact that I've not watched the series in a while and I'm a newish fan (´Д｀|||) srry )
Adding onto this with some self-indulgent implied intrulogical (sorry if that isn't ur cup of tea, it has nothing to do with the initial theory dw)
This is also barely a theory anyways :P
Anyways, so we know that Logan is mostly focused on making Thomas the most productive he can be, and we see him try to wrangle Remus in "Working through intrusive thoughts"
So my concept for an Orange reveal is based on the idea of Logan desperately trying to find a use out of Remus.
First by understanding that he isn't just "Intrusive thoughts", and his main role is still dark creativity! (Mostly because I NEED them to actually state this in canon bcus its killing me) This was already pretty much known, but Logan realises that dark creativity is where he needs to focus on in order to make progress.
My personal concept is that intrusive thoughts are just Remus's outburst caused by Thomas + Sides rejecting/suppressing him, even when his ideas aren't actually that bad (eg. The end of the newest ep). These outbursts are compulsive to him, but he's actually not phased by the subject matter, he's having a jolly time tormenting the others. (I would make an OCD connection/allegory but I am not knowledgeable enough to do that properly) BUT THATS BESIDES THE POINT
Then, going forward by realising that there are some things that Roman can't do, stories like murder mysteries and zombie apocalypses, anything too angsty or gritty is unfathomable and he just has to give them some sort of noble/happy ending (again potentially compulsively, Remus, share your issues with your brother)
This all combines in Logan attempting to bring light to Remus's use cases, not as intrusive thoughts, but as dark creativity helping Thomas cover darker topics in writing/art, but the notion is rejected by the others because cmon dude its Remus we're talking abt here, adding more fuel to Logans getting-ignored-all-the-time fire, and making him lean more Orange.
Yada-yada eventually either Orange makes an appearance to take over with the accepting-Remus quest (if he's a separate side), or Logan goes full Orange in frustration and makes the others stbau (sybau but he improved it for more grammatical accuracy) (if Orange is Logan/Part of Logan)
TLDR: Logan tries to convince the others that Remus isn't entirely useless and goes Orange after getting annoyed because the others won't listen to him
Tbh someone probably already said this, and said this better, but my personal theory for the role of the orange side is that he's Thomas's sense of justice. (Or injustice, that'd be a sick name)
Like, not justice how morality/Patton considers it, but in a more literal/brutal sense. The best way I can think to describe the difference is like, "if I'm nice to someone, it doesn't matter if they're nice back because it's morally right to be nice" vs "if I'm nice to someone and they're not nice back, they no longer deserve my kindness"
Its a very straight-forward way of seeing right and wrong that I think aligns quite easily with Logans thought process, either as a separate side he would find himself agreeing with more, or as a harsher side of himself he gives into at times.
And even though this way of seeing things is mostly deviod of emotion, it does make for a very angry opinionated side, which is how orange seems from what little we've seen of him.
(Also, since everyone and their granny draws orange with a leather jacket, what if he has his vocab cards as sewn on patches on his jacket? Maybe (if orange turns out as justice/injustice/wtv) the patches are logical fallacies and their definitions so he can call the others out on their bs)
(If this doesn't work or sound dumb or smth blame it on the fact that I've not watched the series in a while and I'm a newish fan (´Д｀|||) srry )
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