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Your Ao3 link, please?
Ah that's right! I have an A03 account where I write stories from time to time! Here's the link to anyone interested in reading them.
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The thing about Charlie is that the writers and voice actor don’t understand is that her goal to get sinners into heaven isn’t out of selfless or altruism. I’ve heard the writers and VA say that if Charlie succeeds in her goal that she’s end up all alone in hell. When we just saw in season 1 and 2 that she can actually visit heaven anytime she wants, has Emily who can send letters to hell and heaven, has two scientists they can just voicecall people from heaven. AND we see Charlie go to heaven, because será gave her a pas to visit or whatever and Charlie got hangout with Emily and go to a zoo, so she’s not alone, now is she?
Charlie is redeeming sinners for herself and because she wants to make mommy proud. Charlie does hurt people not because she cares about them but because she wants to use sinners to make herself look good. In episode 3 season 2. She is told by Angel that Vox is bad news and not to trust them, she doesn’t listen and hurts Angel but what’s funny is that Angel learns a lesson, not Charlie. Angel learns that he can’t trust Charlie’s sorry because she hurt him once, now she did it again. So her saying “sorry” means nothing to her. So he doesn’t accept her apology this time. She didn’t even care that Angel is gone by the end of the season except “we’re still sad he’s gone but life still goes on and things are great for me and my hotel” instead of trying to be a good person and redeem sinners she instead wastes a season trying to show/tell Vox she’s a good person.
In season 1 Charlie says her “this kingdom meant so much to my mom” and she’s continuing her moms dream. What was Lilith dream? We have no fucking clue because the writers can’t make up their minds on whether or not heaven is bad or good. One second Charlie will say lilith used her song to empower Hell, the next she’s saying her mom was peacefully protesting against heaven and as far as we know, something happened between Lilith and heaven that caused the exterminations, and Lilith disappeared, but also that Lucifer was the one to sign off on the extermination or doesn’t do jack shit to save sinners because he doesn’t like them.
Charlie also learns that her girlfriend is an Angel and killed sinners but doesn’t matter to Charlie because what matter to Charlie is that Vaggie lied to her. Vaggie gets a backbone this season because she calls Charlie out for fucking everything up and Charlie has n epiphany off screen that she is the problem but the. Immediately starts crying and blames mommy for leaving and says “I push people away/people always leave me” when this isn’t about you, this about redeeming sinners, and you’re making it all about you. Vaggie doesn’t listen and instead tells Charlie “let’s scissor” and whatever emotional hang ups and baggage they need to sort and talk about gets ignored, again. So Charlie repeating the same pattern in season 3 should be a breaking point for Vaggie but we know there’s no way they’re gonna break up the only lesbian couple, and Vaggie has no character outside of babysitting and coddling Charlie.
It's like they took away the parts that originally made Charlie an endearing protagonist and gave them to Lilith instead. So it all just makes Charlie look performative and only using the hotel as a means to an end to get her mom to come back.
And because of that decision, that left Vivzie and the writers with no clue on what to actually do with her outside her family drama. So that just leaves Charlie being a stagnant character that doesn't learn her lesson or grow as a result.
And the other characters around her don't really do anything to help her grow either as they're too busy either taking advantage of her, or just get on her without actually explaining what she did wrong and get her to understand why it's bad. And keeping in mind that Charlie isn't exactly human like most of the cast and wouldn't have the same experiences, it makes the "found family" dynamic of the cast not all that genuine.
How can the protagonist grow and develop as a character if she never really learns anything? How can the protagonist grow and develop as a character if the people around her that're supposed to be her friends don't really help her?
And most importantly, how can the protagonist grow and develop as a character if the crucial parts of her arc were written out and not replaced, thus leaving only a hollow version of who she is?
You know what? This is a wild thing to say, but I think Alastor unironically is more honest with Charlie than Vaggie. Alastor is a shady prick don’t get me wrong, but like one of the few redeeming qualities he does have is he is kind of honest and keeps his end of deals. Like he does keep his deal with Charlie - she didn’t hurt anyone and he just wanted a favor. Meanwhile Vaggie, while I understand why she did what she did, lied to Charlie for the first three years of their relationship and probably would’ve kept the secret up going longer if she wasn’t exposed by Adam and Lute. I don’t get why they played it off as humorous on Charlie’s end, she should’ve been angrier about the closest person she had lying to her and partaking in the genocide of her people. And Charlie tells Vaggie everything! She’s not a perfect partner but she is a totally trusting and sweet partner who trusts and loves Vaggie.
Vaggie keeps Charlie in the dark about stuff and she still does it in season 2 when she sends Lucifer to the rally behind Charlie’s back. Like Charlie was being a bonehead in season 2 but that was still insanely stupid of Vaggie especially since Lucifer can’t harm sinners. I know they make up and stuff but like by that point it was too little too late. And Vaggie saw Lucifer in the might of Lilith and didn’t say anything to Charlie!!! Like wth?
And this leads me to my biggest grip with Chaggie as a whole: Charlie is always portrayed as the flawed one in the relationship and NEVER Vaggie. Charlie needs to forgive Vaggie for lying to her in season 1, Charlie needs to listen to Vaggie, Charlie is always portrayed as doing something wrong and Vaggie is always portrayed as being vindicated and right in the end.
And what’s even more annoying is this fandom puts Chaggie on such a pedestal as this wholesome healthy couple and you aren’t allowed to criticize Chaggie without being accused of being lesbophobic or misogynistic and it’s really annoying.
I don't have anything to add, you've hit the nail exactly on the mark.
Happy Pride Month.
Bro I'm so tired...
It's official. The writers and Vivzie hate Charlie.
I think it’s sad to say that the Pride merch drop last year was significantly better then this years. Say what you will about Morgana but when she was in charge of the merch drops, she ran a tight shift, quality was good (except stylish occult) and she had good communications with her artist and distributors.
I personally like Morgana. She’s very passionate and creative. I just don’t like the person she becomes when she’s around viv, but after leaving her position at spindle and hanging around less with viv. Shes mellowed out and is focusing on her passions and career. I love that for her
Well good for her on getting out when she can, while she did had her bad moments, at least now she can be recognized for her own work even though the Helluverse stuff is gonna overshadow it for a while.
And yeah the merch for this year's pride month is what you would expect. The pins especially look cheaper now.
Like on paper, the shorts should've been a decent way to explore the other characters since the main show is too busy being the Stolas Show. We could've gotten shorts about how Fizz and Ozzie meet and fell in love, we could've gotten a look at how Blitz and Verosika dated and how they broke up, we could've had a Loona centric short or even a Stella or Octavia Short.
But no, instead we got unfunny penguin slurs, we got unfunny gay Bigfoot, we got unfunny Chaz music video.
I think at this point, people just want the new season to come out already so we don't have to deal with how bad the shorts have gotten.
Season 3 just retroactively ruins Easy if they’re just gonna reset Charlie into a brain dead moron, who never learns her lesson or grows up. Charlie is a full grown woman, who is thousands of years old, but is so infantilized because the writing is misogynistic.
However it also makes Vaggie look like a bigger fool because instead of talking and helping her Charlie work through her mommy issues during Easy, she just tells her to shut up and scissor their problems away only for those unsaid problems to comeback and bite in her in the ass. If Vaggie actually breaks up with Charlie and realizes she deserves better but still remains friends then I’ll give credit for having a good message about leaving a toxic relationship.
Yeah! That too! And if you want another character that'll look like a fool alongside her, it's confirmed that Husk will realize how different his deal is from Angel's. Thus making the tender moment and Loser Baby in Season 1 moot and meaningless.
But back to Charlie and Vaggie, we know for a fact that they're never breaking up as breaking up the main sapphic couple would spark an angry outroar. And Vaggie is clearly too devoted to do something like that.
So uh, Erika Henningsen has talked about what Charlie is gonna be like in season 3, and it seems like its just going to be more of the same shit we got in season 2
I cant send a link so just look up Cartoon Base on twitter
I assume this is what you're talking about?
But oh my GOD can they stop making Charlie this insufferable brat who doesn't learn from her mistakes and write her as an actual character? Writing her this way only proves that the hotel really was a means to an end as now that her mother is coming back, she'll prioritize being with her over everything else.
And didn't she learn to not tunnel-vision and overlook her friends and family? It literally makes zero sense to write her this way.
Stolas Goetia Rant
Stolas Goetia is easily one of the most hated characters in Helluva Boss and I will NEVER say it's not deserving.
Like actually, what can be said about this guy that hasn't already been said by half of the critical community and on Youtube? Well since there are still people that fawn over and try to defend him (COUGHSaiScribblesCOUGH) I guess I have plenty of room.
It kind of amazes me that out of the whole cast of abusive unlikable assholes, this bird is somehow the worst one of them all. Like he goes from this over privileged Prince who talks down to Imps and treats Blitz like his personal sex toy. Into this evil, scarily accurate depiction of a manipulative abuser. Who clearly only cares about himself and what he wants, and to hell what anyone else wants or if they get hurt in his pursuits for what HE wants.
Like no joke, Stolas is fucking irrashional!
And the reason I say that is the fact that he KNEW he was being abused and targeted by an assassin! He was fully aware of what was happening and actively chooses not to care! Hiding it under the guise of "Wanting to give Octavia a normal childhood." But we all know that's a flimsy and bullshit excuse considering how that only served to expose her to them fighting many times and how it looks like she doesn't have a social life or friends to hang out with.
A political war had started in Hell, exposing how the higher ups really see Impkind and now a full on revolution might happen because of him. And what makes it even worse is that he always makes it all about him.
"This guy is an assassin and clearly hates the upper class for how they treat his kind? Fuck it I wanna date that!"
"My daughter is clearly upset about how things are going in our household? Oh well I want my precious Blitzy!"
"My wife and her brother are spiteful and are clearly looking to end me and take my inheritance? Well it's not really a big problem so I'll just not meddle in it."
"Oh Blitz is about to be executed because of my actions? Time to sing a cringy song about how I orchestrated the whole thing while never properly taking accountability for my actions!"
DUDE YOU CAUSED ALL THIS TO HAPPEN!
The ONLY kind of justification you can come up with that can explain how this character was written is that Stolas is the world's most obvious Writer's Pet. He only seems to have two character traits, and that he likes reading and gardening. And both of those traits are thrown out the window as the show goes on.
And I know some of you might be thinking "Oh it's just a tv show, get the fuck over it." To which I say it's NOT just a tv show, this and Hazbin Hotel have been considered great and masterpieces with its own following for over half a decade.
People see these characters as progressive and well written, to which I say PEOPLE! You can do better. There are plenty of other characters that have similar arcs and personalities to those in Helluva that have been pulled off way better in comparison. They're flawed but well written, being able to feel alive despite being fictional.
And yet THIS is the one character you wanna vocally praise?
A bratty and privileged bird prince who's so addicted to wanting a relationship that he would abandon his daughter for it?
My God Vivzie! We allowed you to get popular off this? What the fuck?!
HA HA! Not today Vivzie! Gameoverse came out today too and would much rather watch that than this!
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They literally said “Fuck you” to the fandom.
Genuine question, why do you hate Vaggi so much? I’ve tried reading some of your posts but I still don’t fully understand.
The reason I hate Vaggie is for multiple reasons.
She's the embodiment of how Vivzie writes her female characters. She's not allowed to be her own character and only exists to be an accessory to another character, she falls into the bitchy women category where she's rude to the people she's supposed to be helping, and ultimately you can just remove her and give her moments to other characters and nothing would change drastically in the plot.
I don't find her to be an enjoyable character to watch, as most of the time she's just being a grump and acting like she would rather be anywhere else than where she is now. Not to mention how the show never calls her out when she fucks up and treats her as always in the right, and that gets frustrating to watch.
Her relationship with Charlie is literally just Vivzie and the writers romanticizing an unhealthy co-dependent relationship, hiding under cute UWU moments so they don't have people getting onto them for the lack of sapphic couples that's heavily outweighed by all the gay relationships. There's nothing fun about this pairing to me as they only bring out the worst in each other, and it's why I've always been more of a Charlastor shipper since their dynamic feels more interesting to me.
And look, if you like Vaggie and the Chaggie pairing then that's okay. Don't let me stop you from enjoying it. But for me, there's just nothing to like about this character and not enough people talk about her writing flaws or call her out enough.
Among the many things that bug me about HH (and HB, too, considering the settings are the same) is that Hell doesn’t look very… hellish. It’s just any city you can find on Earth painted red.
I’m not wholly against the idea of Hell looking like a city or anything like that, but they could have at least been more creative with it. Like make it a chaotic and torturous version of Las Vegas. Make it an infernal assortment of architecture that spans the centuries but is also the stuff of nightmares. Make it a place that actually drives a damned soul to madness from which there is no escape.
I’m not asking for it to be the conventional “fire and brimstone” thing that’s been overdone, but c’mon. This is Hell. The eternal home for sinners and demons. DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.
For me, I would at least have it explained that why Sinners go around doing these horrible crimes is that Sinners feel empty and are doing these things to try and feel SOMETHING, ANYTHING at this point. And it's by redeeming themselves that the empty feeling goes away.
And with how Lucifer can't even handle the sinners, Hell doesn't even feel like Hell. At this point this show should've been about two kingdoms at war.
Sai's Vivziepop Hatedom Streams Are Pathetic Trash Grabs
Sai can't defend the Hellaverse and Vivziepop to save her life. She just a basterd that just make these Viv Hatedom streams for clout views and just being a cowardly cunt
P.S: Sai Draws Alastor Beating Pink King
As someone who made docs going over her first two streams, I can honestly say that Sai is literally the most pathetic, pettiest, and self righteous person I’ve ever seen on the internet as of lately.
She’s pretty much the embodiment of “Rules for Thee, but not for me!” She’ll throw a fit over people using the word queer harmlessly and making redesigns of the Helluverse characters, but then say the R and N word on stream and gave redesigns to her SU AU comic. It’s not okay for people to do these things, but it’s okay for HER since she probably sees herself as morally above everyone.
And whenever someone tries to criticize her or try to explain how her behavior makes her look, she’ll respond with a snide and insulting comment defending and justifying her BS points. And I get not wanting to give the negative feedback what they want and all that, but her responses literally do the opposite in that.
Speaking of her points! They’re so shallow and not based on anything that could be considered facts. She just says these people are homophobic and prejudice against Vivzie without any evidence and just expects people to take her word for it, in the stream where she covers Arteice she even makes assumptions about her personal life that left me uncomfortable.
Sai needs to grow up and accept that not everyone is going to share the exact same thoughts and opinions as hers, and just NOT go after people that gives good and better criticisms about the show and Vivzie.
Also that image of Alastor and Pink she drew reenacting the moment Nolan slammed Mark against a train… that just shows how petty and mean she is.
Thoughts on the recent TADC drama?
Ugh... don't remind me.
It sucks that all this had to happen a month BEFORE the official release date of the finale, and we were doing fine in not having TOO MUCH controversy so far!
So far, this whole airing the finale in theaters is proving to be something that they have bitten off more than they can chew. Back then the idea sounded cool in theory, but I think it's starting to prove difficult what with the theater troubles and everything.
They even put out a response to it, here's a post from @crooked-wasteland and their insight on it.
💬 0 🔁 0 ❤️ 4 · I just wish the fandom people could calm their tits for a minute. When I was a kid, people acting like they did about this
Please note that I’m not saying they’re completely innocent in this and there has to be some acceptance that they messed up and accountability on their part, but that doesn’t mean to go harass Luke and Kevin or anyone working for Glitch for that matter. So anyway, I hope this doesn't damage Glitch or Goose TOO MUCH in the long run considering their future in making shows.
shit, i can rant here? ok.
So... I've never actually watched Hazbin Hotel. I knew from the start that if I watched it, that if I had it on my screen, it would become my sole obsession.
Even if I didn't watch it (and I never plan to), it corrupts my mind.
It embodies the phrase: it would be so good if it was good.
Because it would be.
I can think of all the ways it could have changed perspectives on story telling, musicals, hell and heaven as a whole.
But instead we're stuck with this half assed slop.
I cant help but like it. Smile at the fanart. I saw it grow from the pilot, I know its community.
And thats why I know its a bad show. (Low mid at best)
Definitely made a smarter move than I did, I'm still here talking about it.
I had such high hopes for this to be at least decent. I wanted to be invested in these characters and the threats they're facing, but the show kept fumbling every single time to where I just stopped watching.
I will keep up with what happens, but in terms of actually sitting down and watching the show? I'm done.
And yeah it could've been great and really challenge what it really means to be a good person, but with it being written by someone who isn't a good person, that just wasn't happening.
They look so fucking ugly.
And because of it being in Minecraft, children are most likely gonna discover this series now.
