look, I know not everyone is a fan of Evans and his wife, but I will say, they handle their relationship in an actual private way. Compared to Seb “I keep my relationship private” Stan.
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Because their PR went well since Alba is happy being kept quiet while enjoying the contract money, unlike AW who wants both the money AND the attention. Even so, Chris's PR is a disaster.
Part of me wonders if they know we’ve caught onto their game of lies, and that’s why there’s so much silence. They’re trying to figure out what to do next that we won’t figure out. 😂
The information is there. The feedback is there. The criticism is there.
They know.
The problem isn't that nobody told them.
The problem is that they seem to look at all that information and go:
"Interesting."
Then proceed to do the exact same thing again.
At this point, doing the opposite of their first instinct might genuinely improve the situation.
YOUR SUCH A HATER!!!Sebs dont even know u exist!!! He got a beautiful woman and they HAPPY!!!!Why u so jealous??? 🤣🤣🤣Leave them alone and go touch grass.
He never gonna pick u sis 💀💀💀
Okay. A few things...
1. YOU'RE
2. Not a single one of you can explain why criticism is wrong, so it always ends with:
"HE'LL NEVER PICK YOU!"
Okay? And?
You think "he'll never pick you" is some devastating insult. I'm criticizing a celebrity's public behavior, not submitting an application to date him. 🤦♀️Can we get back to the actual conversation?
3. Calling him "Seb" while accusing other people of being obsessed is certainly a choice.
4. "You're jealous."
Of what? Be specific.
The relationship everyone argues about?
The constant drama?
The hypocrisy?
The "we're private" tour that's somehow always public?
The inability to go six months without the exact same discourse starting all over again?
A couple that complains about parasocial behavior while simultaneously benefiting from and encouraging it when it's convenient?
I'm sorry, but "you're just jealous" only works when there's actually something people want.
You keep throwing that accusation around like it's some kind of checkmate, but I've yet to hear anyone explain what, specifically, I'm supposed to be jealous of.
Jealous of two grown adults who can't seem to get on the same page, constantly send mixed messages, and then wonder why people have questions?
look, I know not everyone is a fan of Evans and his wife, but I will say, they handle their relationship in an actual private way. Compared to Seb “I keep my relationship private” Stan.
Like there was no “Evans and wife are expecting” news. Not a pap walk (in fact you rarely see pap walks of them), nothing. That woman stayed hidden. Then there was the “they’ve welcomed a baby girl” announcement. And to this day, there are no pictures of their kid, nor do they talk about their kid in interviews.
which is why when the “they’ve welcomed a baby girl” announcement came out, the public response was better compared to Seb’s situation.
side note- Anthony Mackie is an extrovert and a yapper and has four kids, and even he keeps his kids and family life private..
TAKE NOTES SEBASTIAN.
👏👏👏👏
I imagine this is Sebastian's face whenever someone offers constructive criticism or any different idea.
The thing that's confusing isn't even the PR cycle itself.
Every PR team has a cycle.
Every PR team has a playbook.
That's normal.
What isn't normal is watching a public image take hit after hit after hit and seeing virtually no course correction. No recalibration. No change in strategy. No attempt to address the conversations people are actually having.
Just the same playbook. The same narratives. The same tactics. The same distractions. Over and over again.
And maybe that's because they think it's working.
Maybe it's because they don't see a problem. Or maybe they're so committed to the strategy that they can't recognize when it's no longer effective.
What I do know is that public goodwill isn't infinite. Trust isn't infinite. And once people start recognizing the pattern, the pattern stops working.
At that point, repeating the same strategy isn't consistency. It's stubbornness.
And when certain members of a team already have a history that makes people question their judgment, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence that anyone is steering the ship in a better direction.
I’m convinced at this rate that he’ll probably wait until his potential award camp ain’t really kicks off before mentioning this new era of fatherhood he’s entering
He’s obviously using it for his own selfish gain, and if he outright confirmed it at this point/during Cannes, the news would become old and forgotten and he’d have no leverage during award seasons to use to try and boost his chances of winning
Bet he’s really gonna play up the father angle as some desperate to get recognition. It’s actually disgusting, but hey, he’s a man at the end of the day. Being awful human beings is what they do best
Because if history has taught us anything, it's that this fandom operates in cycles.
Quiet. Quiet. Quiet.
Then a massive media push hits and suddenly Sebastian Stan is being dropped into our timelines every twelve minutes.
Until people get sick of hearing about him. Then everything goes quiet again.
Rinse and repeat.
Do I think Sebastian Stan is a terrible human being?
No.
Do I think he has a terrible public image right now?
Absolutely.
Do I think his PR team has spent the last few years stepping on rakes like they're training for the Olympics?
Also yes.
The problem is that every time they seem to gain ground, somebody somewhere makes a baffling (STUPID) decision and we're right back having the same conversations again.
And then when the next project gets closer, the cycle starts all over.
I have been Anon informed that my opinion on anything that happened before December is invalid, so let's talk about the Big Issue of the day: Baby Daddy Stan. Or at the very least, the handling of the entire situation from a PR perspective. Because it's been divisive, although primarily down the same Shipper/ Anti-Shipper lines most things seem to be these days.
Now, I will be posting and talking about paparazzi images in this, and I cannot stress enough that I feel disgusting doing so, but I've got them from other blogs on here instead of from the outlets themselves so it feels slightly more forgivable in my head, and as I believe these absolutely are pap walks, that makes it feel more forgivable too. It's not privacy invasion if you organised the paps to photograph you, as I've said. I will also be discussing parts of this that are inconsistent, and a big part of that is Annabelles bump. This is not to body shame her, I need that to be very clear, but simply to talk about how things do or do not line up.
In mid December DeuxMoi (Yuck) posted an Anon submission claiming that they saw Sebsatian with an "older woman" looking at rings in Cartier. Sebastian is a brand ambassador for Cartier, so it makes sense he would go there for a ring. He'd been with Annabelle for nearly 4 years, so about time if you go by societal norms to pop the question.
There's only one problem. It was AI. It was a set up, a test. And DeuxMoi failed.
There is a full explainer of the situation on ContractuallyCursed for your reading pleasure.
This wasn't Stan or Wallis PR, but it did gain a lot of traction and attention in the fandom. The kind of attention that could really benefit a couple, especially one with such a defined division in the fandom about whether or not people even believed they were in a real relationship.
Then to really spice things up, on the 22nd of December Sebastian was spotted catching up with Ana de Armas outside a gym in LA.
And many fans noted not only that he quite clearly checked out her ass (dirty dog) but that he looked much more relaxed and happy in this encounter than the majority of times we saw him with Annabelle. And a bunch of people thought Ana and Sebastian would be a much better match than Annabelle and Sebastian. Which, well, not great relationship PR unless this meet cute was a soft launch of a break up and new relationship. Rumours abound, and many assumed that if he & Annabelle hadn't broken up already, they would soon.
However, on Valentines Day, as predicted by many, we got a pap walk. One of few couple pap walks, and... Well...
They looked miserable. Shippers were elated, they assumed Annabelle was wearing one of Sebastians go to jackets, they were bathing in the love & romance in the photos that only they could see. The rest of us wondered how another pap walk could come out of the pair where no pictures made it look like they actually liked each other. Then came a video...
As is regular when we get behind the scenes of red carpets or pap walks of the pair, it doesn't help. Yeah they're holding hands, but they still don't look like they want to be there with each other which is extra weird because it's Valentines, it's the day where society says romance is king. And instead of looking like a couple in love celebrating their relationship, it looks like your friends parents who are only staying together for the kids. And they arranged this.
Then there was nothing much of note until TMZ entered the chat on the 16th of March with a leak that many people feel came from Team Wallis at least, if not from both teams as a joint bit of PR planting.
Then silence. Nothing from either camp. No statements, no confirmation, no dismissal. Just silence. The fanbase was divided, even beyond the normal. Some were unsure if it could be true because sometimes TMZ get's it right. Now, as I've said before, we're not owed information, but when something leaks it should be addressed one way or another, unless the point is to create discussion while technically keeping your hands clean as a whistle.
But in April the discourse got even more muddied, when the pap walks started. And boy howdy, it was a fucking mess out there! Which of course, was probably the point.
14th April - Large bump
16th April - Larger bump
17th April - Small bump?
24th April - Medium sized bump... And a couple walk after Tumblr noted that they were never seen together, and this visibly heavily pregnant woman was walking two dogs alone. And weird that the paparazzi spotted her without her significantly more famous baby daddy.
28th April - Mystery sized bump covered in a massive coat on a day when everyone around her is in t-shirts and shorts. And from personal experience, I was always too fucking hot when I was pregnant, wearing a massive goddamn coat in warm weather would have had me on the floor.
29th April - She posted then deleted then cropped and reposted the first picture, I didn't see the original. The second was posted by someone else, the other person in the picture I assume. You can, I assume, guess what happened next. Where's the bump? We'd been seeing bumps big enough to put more distance between them than that.
30th April - Another hidden bump... IMO a relatively small one more in line with the previous picture. Also this fucking pap walk had shippers swooning over how stylish she was and saying she should style Sebastian. Let that marinate.
03rd May - Posted by Jessie as part of a photo set to celebrate his event thing. This one really stirred up discussion because her outfit really didn't give anything away bump wise, and some were convinced there was no bump. There is. But the straight on, black on black framed by loose red, just camouflages it.
05th May - Smaller bump than most of the pap walks, first is a pap shot second was posted by one of her friends on Insta. This was the first actual, visible, clear, non pap walk photo of the bump, from an official source technically. Surely there would be a statement now?
08th May - No statement, just another pap walk a few days later. This bump looks more like the one we saw in the previous pictures. Finally, some consistency!
The ever changing bump size, the excessive amounts of pap walks, the continued silence... It all created a buzz, negative on one side and positive on the other, as people tried to work out what the fuck was going on. Theories were abound: It was fake and she was wearing a bump suit for attention, they were using a surrogate and she was wearing a bump suit so no-one would ask about the surrogacy, Sebastian had a side chick who was pregnant and she was wearing a bump suit because they were taking full custody and she was covering it all up, she's actually pregnant and it's Sebastians but she baby trapped him, she's actually pregnant and it's Sebastians but he only got her pregnant so his mum could have a grandchild before she eventually died, she's actually pregnant but it's not Sebastians, and of course she's actually pregnant and they're both super happy because they are genuinely in love.
I must stress, no-one owes fans information about their private life, but this situation in my opinion should have had something. Because unlike a slew of other private celebrities who managed to keep an entire pregnancy and birth on the downlow, only to announce that a child exists at some point in the future, there is visible evidence that something is going on and they are fucking around doing pap walks instead of just saying something. That says they want people to know, they want the attention and buzz from it, they just also want to be able to claim they're soooooooo private they wont even talk about it at all. And it's hypocritical.
Then something popped up on eBay that created a buzz...
Someone was selling a few advanced copies of his Deadline cover, and "prepares for both fatherhood and playing a villain" and everyone assumed this would actually be the time he mentioned it. Finally. Right? Wrong. When the interview came out the interviewer said it, but he never acknowledged it. All we got was one singular line that may not even be related to his current situation:
“I want to be a good dad,” he says simply.
All of this, the manipulation and hypocrisy and childish nonsense, is what caused fans to start jumping ship. They were disappointed in the way Sebastian specifically handled this, the way both teams did nothing to try and stem the flow of rumours and conspiracies, and the way it made them feel like they were just pawns being used in a game they never signed up for.
And that is the biggest PR fail you can manage as far as I'm concerned.
And then Cannes happened, and fuck me. What was that?
and hear me out.. Megan thee Stallion is recently single, in her 31s, a Grammy winner, who went back to school and got a Bachelor of Science in Health Administration in 2021.. not to mention the woman is a BADDIE.//
No. Horrible idea. No shade to Megan at all ever, I adore her, she could use me as a door mat. But her star power actually exceeds his at this point. He's not a household name. She is. There is zero chance he'd be able to handle that.
and hear me out.. Megan thee Stallion is recently single/
Absolutely not. *waving my Stallion flag* Megan just got out of a crap relationship; she's 31 and living single with her fine ass. Besides, Sebastian Stan wouldn't know what to do with her anyways.
when this blows up, I obviously think he should stay single and then not go for an actress but someone in the industry.
and hear me out.. Megan thee Stallion is recently single, in her 31s, a Grammy winner, who went back to school and got a Bachelor of Science in Health Administration in 2021.. not to mention the woman is a BADDIE.
the concept of Sebastian dating Megan thee Stallion, amazing
I wonder sometimes if Sebastian thinks he needs to act differently in this relationship, because previous ones have all gone sideways and he was affectionate and open in those. He’s just going about it in a very weird way. Kind of wish I knew nothing about him and could look at it without blinkers on.
That’s the thing they do see the same videos they read and/ or listen to the same things ans us and that’s the worrying thing. I saw something yesterday on tiktok about when he was at the Savannah film festival saying it was about AW. This tells me they didn’t watch the whole interview or they didn’t actually listen to it just picked this snippet out taking it out of context completely it’s like they have selective hearing, they don’t look at the bigger picture or understand the overall context. Selective hearing or rose tinted glasses is the issue here.
That's exactly the problem.
Looking at the full context requires people to be willing to change their minds. A lot of people don't want to do that.
Because once you've decided someone can do no wrong, every red flag becomes a misunderstanding, every contradiction becomes an accident, and every criticism becomes "hate."
At that point you're not analyzing anything.
You're protecting a conclusion you already reached.
And let's be honest, this fandom babies that man more than a Victorian mother with a child.
Half the time I don't know if people think he's a grown man pushing 45 or a helpless woodland creature that needs constant protection.
The pictures with the wrist grab make it look like they were having a moment, but you can see from that video he was literally just moving her, so she'd be in the right position for the photos and not doing her usual nonsense/ The wrist hold was definitely this. She has nearly fallen over twice on the red carpet photo line because Seb was ‘pulling’ her into position, this was both of their faults as they were not in sync or have awareness of each other I mean they don’t look at each other always awkward as hell.
funny that the only people who questions their relationship are you (haters) who looks to small details to hate on Annabelle, cause normal fans they just respect annabelle lmao//
You know what? "normal" Sebastian's fans doesn't care about her and definetley don't go looking for ways to defend her online. Their relationship is publicly strange and inconsistent. If you don't see that, well, good for you. Criticism isn’t the same as hate. Doubting doesn’t mean hating. It’s normal to have an opinion that differs from others. And I’m writing this as the anon who, a few asks back, said they thought that at the BAFTAs and the Golden Globes, the couple at least tried to act enthusiastic toward each other.
I don't have to hate somebody to call out something I think is shady.
I don't hate her.
I don't hate him.
What I do know is that some of y'all have convinced yourselves that criticism and hate are the same thing, and frankly that's a skill issue.
The people who get the most upset are almost always the ones who have made defending Annabelle their entire personality.
You do know liking Sebastian's girlfriend is not a loyalty program.
There is no rewards card.
There is no punch card.
There is no secret VIP fan tier where Sebastian appears in your living room and thanks you personally for defending his relationship in Tumblr asks.
You do not earn Sebastian Stan points every time you tell someone they're jealous.
You do not unlock bonus content.
You do not level up.
You do not receive a commemorative tote bag.
And despite what some of y'all seem to believe, liking every single thing his girlfriend does is not going to make him pick you out of the crowd and declare you his Chosen One.
I promise.
Some of y'all defend this relationship harder than the people actually in it.
That's the part I find fascinating.
You can like her.
You can dislike her.
You can defend her.
You can criticize her.
Same goes for him.
But if your first response to every criticism is "you're jealous," then maybe you're not defending a person.
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