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This is @firstandfinalfrontier ‘s Deltarune sideblog. There are many like it, but this one is mine!
Made this to prevent Deltaposting from overwhelming my main. I’ll mostly reblog fanart but I’ll share theories and analysis as well
Got inspired
Little angel
The problem with looking at online Deltarune discussions is that apparently, most people have played a version of the game that consists only of lore dumps and hype moments, without any symbolism, characters, or explorations of concepts like identity or fate, or any themes except "escapism bad".
❌ susie fears change in general and is resorting to escapism to turn her eyes away from reality
✔️ susie fears losing what little she has, embodied by the fact that her home life and reality are so terrible, that fiction (castletown) is the only solace she has. susie's life is marred by loss and a sense of helplessness when it comes to being able to protect what little happiness she can gather before the world cruelly rips it away from her time and time again
a defense of susie, a defense of fiction
susie's socioeconomic status is something that's always been integral to her character, but post-chapter 5, i think it's nigh impossible to discuss her as a character without touching upon the very real class and racial divides that make up her backstory.
susie is a child of poverty, who lacks access to basic needs such as food security, parental love, or safe shelter. she has moved her whole life (likely as a result of being a foster child), has no discernible ties elsewhere in the world, and has difficulty with adults and authority (likely as a result of being continuously failed by adults and/or due to being justice involved).
susie is also incredibly perceptive of race in ways that most of hometown's residents aren't. i touched upon this in a prior post talking about susie's question regarding humans or monsters to kris, but imo susie 'seeing race' is proof that she was once in a position in her life where she always had to contend with the fact that she was a monster. it's easy to be 'race blind' (or in our world, 'color blind') if you are the majority, but when you are the minority, it is MUCH harder to do that despite what everyone else around you says. kris feels the human version of this while it's likely that susie felt the monster version of it, because both of them perceive these difference acutely.
and it's likely because of this that she puts on a tough front/bully persona because 1) that's what people 'assume of her' based on her looks (the racial allegory is not even an allegory at this point) and 2) it's the only way she can protect herself, because believing she's not someone who deserves to be ostracized means dealing with the inherent unfairness of the world that pushes her into those margins. embracing her persona is her way of coping when she has so little agency or power over the circumstances surrounding her life
after all, isn't it so much easier to say 'i deserved that because i'm a piece of shit just like everyone thinks i am' and believe you had some measure of control than to ask 'why did they do that? was it because of me? did i do something wrong?' one leaves you with the illusion of control, that you MADE someone think badly of you because of your actions, rather than leave you with icy cold questions about why the world treats you this way.
in other words, you cannot simply translate the desire to resist change from other characters over to susie. you simply cannot. and if your framework allows you to do this, you are failing to perceive the ways in which she is marginalized in hometown, the narrative of deltarune, and the very real societal critiques that toby is presenting in the story.
because one thing often gets missed in these discussions that susie is resistant to change or that she's surrendering herself to escapism
and it's the fact that susie is the one who changes the most in deltarune. she is THE greatest benefactor of the dark worlds and fiction as a whole.
dark worlds and fiction have helped susie tremendously. her adventures with kris and ralsei have helped her become more confident, understand who she is, and develop herself as a person. just as people change when they read something that resonates deeply with them, so too does susie through the dark worlds.
and like, susie doesn't fear change in a general sense. she doesn't desire to go back to the past, like holding onto an old TV. she actively pursues a better future such as when she gives tenna to someone who will love him, because that's precisely the journey she's been going through herself. she changes others around her because she too is changing through the narrative of deltarune.
(as a side note, tenna's fate is a GREAT moment to compare susie and the knight, who're character foils. tenna represents the past and where susie chooses to give him a new future, the knight cuts him down entirely)
what susie fears is - due to how her life has been punctuated by loss and helplessness over said losses - losing what little happiness she has now. susie wants to PROTECT what she has, because she's so used to losing it. the final prophecy and the threat of the knight kidnapping people keeps susie alert that losing the peace she has now is a very real possibility.
like look at what gerson says when susie says she wants things to last forever
if susie's desire for no ending was 'we must trap everyone in stagnation because i can't let the dark worlds go', why the fuck would gerson tell her to hold onto it as her pen of hope?
susie's desire for things to go on forever is actively encouraged by gerson, and why?
because he recognizes that susie is someone who has always had to let things go, who has always felt powerless as the few joys she's had in life slipped through her fingers like sand
he's encouraging her to have the strength and hope to hold onto what she loves and protect it (dragon and their trove of treasures moment). in this moment in time, dreams and fiction (the dark world analogies) are motivating susie to give her the power to believe that she deserves happiness and that the world shouldn't just take it from her like it's always done
similarly, when susie talks about her hope for each day to be like the last, she's not saying 'i want us to be trapped in a groundhog day loop'.
no, susie is saying she wishes for a life where she doesn't have to be scared of losing what she has
and this 'dream' is called 'silly' by her, because to susie, a sense of predictable normalcy and stability is a fucking dream!
again, susie has not had stability in her life. she hasn't had friends, she doesn't have food, she hasn't had stability at home or at school... if you've ever been in poverty or known anyone in a similar situation, you know what this feels like. so OF COURSE wishing for a future where each day is filled with happiness and friends is a silly dream to her.
and when the light world shatters her hopes of that through toriel's behavior, she retreats to the last remaining shelter she knows despite knowing very well that she's probably sleeping on the floor of a dusty supply closet
this poor girl simply wants some stability in her life. she wants a place to call home. she's not rejecting the light world, but the light world has rejected her and has continuously rejected her. she isn't losing herself to fiction, she's finding solace in it. those are two VERY different things!
that's why going up to susie and saying 'sorry, change is a part of life, you're surrendering yourself to escapism' is so goddamn tone deaf it drives me insane lol
because in these dark times, your daydreams and your imagination are sometimes your only solace. ffs, people in this very fandom do this by indulging in fandom activities to escape from the harsh realities of the world we live in. and that's not a bad thing, just as it's not a bad thing for susie. i'm sure many of us had our lives changed for the better due to undertale and deltarune!
caring about fiction isn't a bad thing and susie caring about the dark world isn't a bad thing, because the power and hope we gain from works of fiction ultimately help us in reality!
in all this, imo it's so easy to see that susie's fear is not of change indiscriminately, but about falling back into instability, resetting to 0, losing everything and everyone she has come to love thus far. this is especially more cogent if the final prophecy deals with her death.
like isn't it so telling that her dream isn't something grand like kris's whatever-conspiracy or potentially destructive like noelle's: no, susie dreams of a mundane life, just as she looks into people's houses and wonders if she could ever live a life like that.
she fears the end precisely because she expects it, because it's always happened to her.
because everything she has ever loved or cared about has always disappointed her, left her, or disappeared.
because in all her life, losing everything over and over despite her best efforts has always reinforced to her that her choices have never mattered.
and how poignant is that because susie is actually...
the player surrogate
just as susie believes darkners are real because of how they've impacted and changed her, so too have players been impacted and changed by the characters of deltarune, seeing ourselves in them or expressing our deepest thoughts through them as if they were real.
just as susie wishes for no ending to her adventures because she fears what lies past it and whether things would be the same, so too do players fear the end of deltarune and whether the fandom would be the same.
this doesn't mean we as the players of deltarune are 'against change' or 'succumbing to escapism'
no, we simply fear the unknown and the loss that will inevitably happen and that is the same fear susie holds.
and what susie wants is to be able to have the power to protect the things she loves, to be able to hold onto these things that she hasn't ever had in her life, to be happy
and similarly, we as the player must believe in another ending, that these characters will find happiness at the end of the story.
that's the synchronicity that'll give her and us hope to face change and the end.
i can't believe berdly literally references this lmao
is it just me or do a lot of (particularly TME) Undertale/Deltarune fans seem to assume -- for practically no reason -- that Kris was raised as non-binary for their entire life rather than having been coercively assigned a gender at birth even though there's literally no evidence for this and nothing that suggests it's true.
I see a lot of people saying that the monster gender binary is just "different" and they "don't understand the human gender binary" without any sort of citation for it -- it seems pretty obvious to me that Hometown has a generally quite rigid, conservative outlook especially on things like gender, and that the vast majority of monsters seem to be assigned male/female as a gender at birth the same way as humans (with the exception being the gender-neutral-by-default ghosts who... don't even seem to be born? and the majority of the ghosts we see end up transitoning away from gender neutrality anyway) so i really don't know where this is coming from? you'd think that a town/culture with a "different concept of the gender binary" would have multiple obvious examples of that rather than seemingly reflecting the same conservative values on gender that the human world has.
We even see the Lioness from Undertale being too nervous to present as a woman but being inspired by Mettaton's performance to come out, implying that there are, y'know, transphobic undercurrents to monster society that would make somebody closeted to begin with
to me, i think treating Kris as though they are "raised as non-binary from birth" (in other words, the mythical Cisgender Enby) is an escapist fantasy that undermines the actually transgender themes that form the basis of Deltarune's narrative & themes; like, i think this is very much another instance of people acting like Kris's home life and relationship to their parents is just Really Good and they're all Totally Happy becuase it makes for cuter fanworks rather than like actually engaging with what the game is trying to say about Kris's homelife and relationship to their family (and, in this case, gender).
see this is the exact attitude I’m talking about; thank you tumblr for relentlessly following through on “The Type Of Person You’re Criticising Shows Up To Say, Ahhhh I’m Made of Straw!’
here’s a summary of this user’s so-called “evidence” that Hometown isn’t culturally transphobic
1. Mettaton (who pointedly doesn’t even get to exist in Deltarune) was a popular queer gender nonconforming celebrity (in another timeline)
2. There is a trans woman who works as a waitress
3. Nobody misgenders Toriel and Asgore’s kid to their face
Like, I shouldn’t even have to explain how utterly silly these arguments are but I will anyway. We, real life humans, live in a transphobic society full of gender nonconforming/queer/openly trans musicians, actors, celebrities, and guess what? It hasn’t made society any less transphobic.
Could you imagine saying that your rural US hometown doesn’t have a transphobic culture and you can prove it because ONE diner employs ONE openly, visibly transgender woman. Like god damn, somebody give QC the GLAAD award.
And like… I’m from a deeply conservative, transphobic rural town. My parents are both very well known, well-respected members of this community who are friends with everybody — which is part of the reason nobody in this deeply conservative, transphobic rural town misgenders me to my face, because they know it would get back to my parents and they don’t want to burn bridges like that. It hasn’t prevented there being a generally transphobic attitude across my town, it hasn’t prevented children from being coercively assigned genders at birth, it doesn’t magically mean that nobody is transphobic because they don’t misgender me to my face.
This is an utterly juvenile perspective on how transphobia works. Like, you seriously have no idea about what institutional transphobia is, how it functions, or what it looks like if your only concept of it is “transphobic people misgender every trans person at all times under every circumstance.” In actuality, many of us get the privilege of being treated as “one of the good ones” (by direct relation to somebody well-respected in town) to our faces but tutted and whispered about in quiet, private judgement behind our backs.
I’m starting to think that none of y’all have any idea what transphobia looks like to trans people who have been out the closet as their gender for ten plus years, and how different it can be to those first few especially if you’re attached to a family or group of people that acquaintances are unwilling to burn bridges with. Absolute nonsense comment.
Like, I think it's a fool's errand to try and prove that a fictional culture is necessarily welcoming to trans people because we don't see a specific type of transphobia on screen. We have plenty of evidence for conservative cisheteronorms about gender in Hometown, and the only evidence to the contrary is something that can be very easily handwaved with the Doylist explanation of "it would be fucking emotionally exhausting to play a Fun Cutesy Game where the transgender main character is relentlessly misgendered by everybody they meet" and "the audience to Undertale is so ridiculously dense when it comes to trans stuff and most of them still just assume Frisk is a boy because at no point does Sans say 'hey, what a great day for you to be non-binary'" directly to their face.
I always think back to the one balding politician in Town Hall who tells Kris about what to expect in "a man's world." Like that's transmisogynistic micro aggression 101.
Hey so post-chapter 5 I feel like this is all stronger evidence than ever that Hometown is a deeply cisheteronormative place, regardless of whether a few members of the queer community are openly accepted/ignored
Festival has a King and Queen contest with no gender-neutral choices. And while Jockington is on track to win both King and Queen, that's more indicative of it being a blatant popularity contest than anything queer
The non-cop blook cousins are still shut in throughout the biggest event of the year in the town. Also while one of them has experienced a tremendous moment of self-discovery, she can only be "herself" in the dark world (ie., a literal closet)
Yet another chapter emphasizing how the wardrobe in their room at Castle Town lets Kris wear "anything [they] want" and is, presumably, the source of all their costume changes in ACTs. But only in the dark world. And even there they have the thought that they could end up wearing "anything [they] didn't want". Meanwhile that clothes drawer on their side of the room has gone undescribed for 5 chapters running
Fallen humans
I think Dess and Kris' relationship was exactly like this
"what are your chapter 5 predictions" i don't have any idea what's happening anymore
"what are your chapter 6 predictions" i don't have any idea what's happening anymore
your nonbinary deltarune protagonist is plural
they have krissociative identity krisorder
acting all humble like he wasn't just begging and crying for it
"there's no way toby can wrap all this up in just 2 chapters!"
toby, preparing to drop chapter 6 chapter 1:
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Senshi (Dungeon Meshi)
Ryland Grace (Project Hail Mary)
Mr. Ant Tenna (Deltarune)
Tenna art by @9Aaaalt29 on twt
“And if you’ll give me 40% of the MOST POPULAR VOTE, I’ll give you my SPECIAL REWARD... A year’s supply of NON-GLOOBY SLIME!!! Never or BARELY used!!!” Tenna concluded his speech with a huge smile, jetting his hands up in double peace signs.
The crowd roared in confused enthusiasm as Tenna gave a gracious flurry of low-FPS bows, pausing only for the occasional stink-nose at his audience plants who weren’t throwing enough 3D roses.
Eventually, the room fell silent. It was Senshi’s turn to speak.
He puffed out his chest, took a long, sweeping look over the audience… and shook his head.
“I can see not all of you are eating properly.”
The crowd murmured with embarrassment.
“I don’t know who needs to hear this, but it’s time to take the turkey out of your icebox. I have seen the ingenious technology with which your people store food... and I have also seen the waste which results from such convenience.
“The food you take had a life. Beasts grew fat on the grass of the field, plants grew from the sun’s rays, and mushrooms grew from minerals in the cracks of caves. And yet, it sits in your iceboxes, collecting moisture until it perishes.
“Eat what is given to you. Because its life will make you stronger, too.”
Without another word, Senshi left his podium and stepped away from the stage. The crowd murmured in confusion. “Is he really like that?” somebody said. “I only remember reblogging the photosets of him tripping and showing ass.”
--
Back in the Green Room, Tenna wrung his antennas nervously.
“Y-y-you think they liked me!? They HAD to!! I mean, I don’t know what Asgore was thinking, getting that weird haircut and running that food waste campaign, but… YOU thought I did good, didn’t you, Kris?”
Laios nodded aggressively, a streak of blue face paint peeling from his forehead.
“You did AMAZING, Tenna! By the way, now that we’ve seen all your insider campaign secrets, do you have any more videos of Susie? Especially her tail... If I could get a look at that, I could finally tell if she’s a dinosaur or --”
THWACK. Fake antlers butted Laios’s head.
“LAIOS?? Weren’t we dressed up to help SENSHI???” Marcille hissed, gesturing awkwardly with her hooves.
Suddenly, Tenna turned to the two adventurers.
“Hey, WAIT a second. SOMETHING’s not right here...”
Laios and Marcille held their breath.
“Where the heck are my POINTS!?”
Just then, the door opened. Chilchuck took one step into the room, whistling and holding a large bag.
Everyone turned to him.
Chilchuck paused, took a step backwards, and closed the door.
“CHILCHUCK!!!” yelled Tenna.
“How come Chilchuck got to stay Chilchuck!?” yelled Marcille at the same time.
--
Meanwhile, in outer space somewhere, some guy was making out with a rock.
That's his attack, idk if you'd heard
Ladies and gentlemen but mostly ladies….
Okay look. I've been seeing a lot of art for Susie after Chapter 5 laying in the storage closet surrounded by the Darkner objects, and it's all beautiful, heartrenching art, and I love angst, keep it coming.
But also.
I don't like this implication that her sleeping in Castle Town is... bad? because it's "not real"?
Like. It sucks that she doesn't have a real "home" in the Light World. That's awful. But why shouldn't Castle Town be a home to her, if she doesn't really have one in the Light World? Would you prefer her to sleep in a place that she doesn't feel safe in?
And that's just one thing. Because I get that something something too much escapism is bad.
But also.
I don't like this implication that Castle Town--and all its inhabitants--aren't real.
Because that defeats the purpose of Ralsei's arc.
It defeats the purpose of SUSIE's arc.
That defeats the purpose of... pretty much everything.
And that REALLY bugs me.
It IS real. THEY ARE REAL PEOPLE. Are we playing the same game?
And again, I'm not talking about the wonderful art. I love the art! I love angst! I'm talking about the reactions to the art. I've literally seen people say "omg get out of there Susie it's not real" and I'm like ?????. Hadst thou playedth the fucking game???
Idk. Sorry for the rant. It just makes me sad (and not in a good way) that people are acting like Lancer and Ralsei and everyone aren't real and don't matter.