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this is a pro tobirama place, also a pro uchiha place.
Edo Tensei
I don't even know why am I doing this. Maybe to let my sorrow out? Well, either way, enjoy.
welcome to the church of tobirama. tobiraism it is.
You either join or you join. No other choice.
or u can always just join
The doors are sealed shut
Doing God's work
Sir/Madam, put your long posts under the line, please! Scrolling is hard.
Will do so because of the 'please'
The sharingan is just BPD.
Hey, this is coming from someone with bpd, and if this statement makes you mad double check your personality.
How can you be pro-tobirama when you follow an anti tobi blog?
Oh must have been an accident! My hands are pretty big, I often click on things I don't mean to
This page here is one of Kishimoto's most magnificent creations.
It's not because we're told for the umpteenth time that Uchiha have issues. But because all the tantrums it triggered in rabid Uchiha apologists aka Uchiha cultists. And so they took it upon themselves to deny canon by projecting their hate onto Tobirama because Kishimoto forbids someone calls out their Uchiha self-inserts.
Now enjoy all these other pages and panels of the Uchiha getting exposed:
Zetsu remarking Uchiha served him well since their conception
Uchiha killing their loved ones and stealing their eyes for power
Uchiha abusing their abilities for evil
Insane Uchiha forcing the sane Uchiha to create a mind-washing jutsu to put a leash on them
Obito calling the Uchiha's fate cursed with hatred with the Uchiha having no control over it
Madara noting he took advantage of Curse of Hatred
Sage of Six Paths, the sentient history book who has watched all events, confirming Uchiha clan's scheming for domination
And yet Tobirama is the only one who didn't believe this made the Uchiha inherently evil, but rather it came from love. And that they aren't doomed to fail but have control over their fates and the paths they choose.
Tobirama was the nicest and most generous to and most tolerant of this unstable clan. He acknowledges Uchiha's chakra anomaly and volatile minds.
Tobirama is the most pro-Uchiha figure here.
But somehow, Uchiha apologists think Tobirama is the bad guy here?! I don't see them calling Obito out for saying his clan is doomed to hate forever. So basically Uchiha apologists are saying Tobirama is wrong to not generalise them and see the good in them? Is this what Uchiha apologists are saying?! Lmao
Uchihas have BPD eye syndrome and Tobirama is the only one that's willing to understand, excellent post
And no, I am not being ableist, as someone with BPD, the sharingan alligns with a LOT of symptoms.
I relate to Jugo and Orochimaru on a spiritual level because I too would square the fuck up with Tobirama without hesitation if he threatened Sasuke.
you'd crack like that concrete wall tobirama touched
Spine turning onto a glowstick
Yeah but what if Tobirama never got married because he knew he would be very busy aka an absent father but he still really loved kids so much so he just looked at all his students as his own
That was probably what happened 🥺
Never fails to make me love him even more
hey u guys wanna find out what shittily written naruto character u are
So i am a bad dad
Izuna: *exists*
Tobirama: Haha. No.
What do you think about people claiming 'Tobirama invented the cruel Chuunin Exams that pit one child against the other like a bullgight. Children were treated like a tool during his regime which means he was essentially creating Child Soldiers'?
I don't know if this fact were mentioned anywhere in the Manga. But with the way he was totally ready to offer up his life to save his students and advised them to groom young bloods who will carry on the Will of Fire makes me to think that this is some headcanon to slander Tobirama without any proof.
Thanks for the ask @captnjacksparrow
This is some made up claim to slander Tobirama without any proof.
That’s exactly what it is.
There are so many holes in Tobirama’s haters reasoning or lack thereof to put any credit into it. But not like we can expect objective thinking and critical narrative understanding from self-proclaimed antis. The antis dont even get the basic concept of Chunin exams. They aren't even for kids, most participants looked like adults.
Look at this guy:
As for the holes, let’s start with the most obvious one:
1. Lack of evidence: All facts we have from canon are that Tobirama created the rankings and the means to evaluate the genins who want to be Chunin. Rankings that are essential to the ninja and make sure they take missions according to their abilities. We have no idea how the exams were held in his time, we don’t know if they were deadly and we don’t know if young kids could participate or not. So I would ask haters to back up their claims with evidence but I know they cannot. Their argument is based on naught.
We could as easily say there was an age restrictions for Chunin in early Konoha, just as there were vigilant adults nearby to intervene the exams in case.
Matter of fact, there were no child soldiers in his era from what we've seen. Genins only do simple missions. Team Tobirama, for whom Tobirama sacrificed himself, were in their 20s.
(Hiruzen was 17 years older than Tsunade and Hashirama lived until her toddler years which makes Team Tobirama 20 at most)
So no child soldiers in early Konoha.
2. General OOC: By Hiruzen's time, the village had become tight-knit enough to hold such exams. Why should someone as practical as Tobirama create death matches for children at the time of Konoha's creation? When clans had joined togther for safety? It goes without sayin that seeing their kids kill each other is counterproductive to this newly-established peace. So I ask the antis, why would Tobirama jeopardise the peace like that? How would Konoha stay in one piece after that?
Tobirama antis can say he didn't care about safety of children but can they say the same of Hashirama? Kagami, Hiruzen's peer died when he was 25, after Tobirama. Adding that to their minumim age in the time of Tobirama's death means he reigned for 5 years max. Meaning Hashirama led the village for far longer and the organisation came to be under him. Why would he let kids partake in deadly exams?
Moreover thanks to Madara's efforts, the war broke out between ninja villages. Why would Hashirama and Tobirama deplete human resources by making Chunin exams fatal? Tobirama who gave up his own life to make sure the next generation, the hope of the village survive.
And Sarutobi downright admitted he let Danzo butcher his sensei's legacy. Meaning what they did were against Tobirama's wishes:
3. Tobirama and what he built saved more children in the long run: Tobirama created the academy so children who chose to become ninja could be trained properly, rankings and the means of evaluation so the ninja can take missions according to their abilities. Tobirama lost two brothers in Warring State Period because they were forced on missions they were unqualified for.
Not only did Tobirama help actualise Hashirama's peace that ended the warring era, he made sure children are no longer forced to be on battlefield; now they are trained properly, their graduation to genins alone has become challenging and even then they're to do basic harmless C and D rank missions. It was a radical for its time and a major step-up from the cruel days of warring state period.
No more children like Kawarama and Itama who were forced into cruel battles.
So haters can stay mad because Tobirama indeed cared about and protected the children.
4. Blaming one man? Let us assume, however pointlessly, just for the sake of the haters, that Tobirama Senju indeed established ninja battle royale. What does that mean? This man reigned only for 5 years; already did improve his era a lot. How is it fair to blame it on him? Hashirama let this happen and should be held as accountable. Hiruzen ruled for over 40 years and did nothing to change it. Neither did Minato who literally had Little Kakashi join the ANBU. Kakashi himself is called out by Gai sensei for enrolling his inexperienced genin team into the chunin exams.
But somehow the haters think it's all Tobirama's fault? They sound so smart and not all unfairly biased against a character they're projecting their hate onto!
My own opinion on this I don't exactly blame everyone here. It was stated Third Shinobi World War was a devastating one for Konoha and it forced them to take such desperate measures to ensure their survival and it seemingly stayed with them up until the start of the series. Danzo's corrupt influence couldn't have been impactless either. Blaming it on Tobirama is ridiculous because as stated previously, he didn't do any of the things the antis claim.
What I think is, this shonen series is about ninja kids kicking ass and saving adults. Moreover, it's set in feudal copycat era. Certain fans should stop being clueless and quit projecting their modern views and also their hate and negativity upon this series. Not only are they unable to make compelling arguments, they let their personal dislike for certain characters bleed through. They ruin the fun we can have here, in the fandom.
Rabid haters always ruin the fun.
Not this making me love Tobirama even more... bye
Hashirama the man who admitted to being able to kill his own children.
In the previous post I praised how beautiful and destructive Hashirama’s Mokuton was during Part 1 so now it is time to criticise him again.
So let’s talk about the man who would sacrifice his family if they threatened the existence of Konoha.
Let’s put it in context: This takes place years after Madara leaves the village when he realises that the villagers and other people will not accept him.
So years later Madara returns to the village to destroy it and confronts Hashirama.
Hashirama uses a clone of Mokuton and stabs Madara in the back. He then goes on to explain that he will protect HIS village no matter what the cost, that he will kill anyone who threatens the existence of Konoha no matter if it is his friend (Madara), a brother (Tobirama), or one of his own children so perhaps he also implies that he might even kill his wife (Mito).
This perfectly represents how horrible Hashirama is and the job of Hokage as it implies that you must put the village before your family. This also explains why all Hokages are terrible fathers and husbands because the first one set a precedent.
I refuse to think that Mito didn’t hear this, she was probably very close to sealing Kurama in herself. And suddenly your husband the person you’ve had children with admits he’d kill them if they threatened Konoha.
What the fuck Hashirama?!
Now I understand why Hashirama never thinks about Mito or his children, his marriage was ruined after this and his children surely hated him for what he said. And he deserved it! I’m sure the love Mito was referring to was not only romantic but also the love between friends, family, etc…. It’s a shame that Kushina ended up with someone just like Hashirama.
I bet spoiling Tsunade was Hashirama’s attempt to repair his relationship with his first son(sure didn’t work). He probably ignored the rest of his grandchildren.
Besides Hashirama doesn’t really think positively of his granddaughter. When he found out she was Hokage he asked if the village was alright
Dude! You haven’t seen your granddaughter since she was 4-5 years old and you think you have the right to have an opinion about her, to think she would do a bad job? You have no idea about Tsunade’s life, so shut the fuck up!!!
Tsunade had to experience the death of her family and all the people who were important to her (and you don’t deserve to be among those important people). She became Hokage even though she didn’t want to and it was a shitty job. And she did a great job so shut up Hashirama.
And we get to what is one of the moments I hate the most. Tsunade says she’s sorry to Hashirama:
And I need to ask, because it’s burning me alive.
What is she apologizing for?
Is she apologizing for the war when it’s not her fault?
Is she apologising for not making peace when she had no obligation to do so?
The wars happened largely because of Hashirama because the idiot had the brilliant idea to hand out the bijuus. What was he really thinking? Or wait Hashirama is incapable of thinking.
And if he thinks it’s only about Madara and the welfare of the village. The Senju clan should have expelled Hashirama or something because this guy had serious troubles. Or maybe Ashura is the one who had problems who knows?
And worst of all Tsunade had just recovered from being cut in half and separated several meters by fucking Madara if a guy cut my granddaughter in half I would tear him apart.
And even cut in half she was still conscious and wanting to heal the Kages.
And Hashirama goes and tells Madara at the end to drink sake together.
You can fuck off Hashirama.
I don't hate Hashirama, but absolutely no lies were told in this.
He is not a family person at all. Tobirama knew that too, as he was scared that Hashirama would kill him for a friend.
I personally believe Hashirama is the type of person to care about a family member once it's too late.
Not even talking about how his logic never protected children, but due to his actions children HAD TO learn how to kill someone.
I know Tobirama came up with the academy, but Hashirama did nothing for the safety of kids besides making a home village for them.
He failed to achive what he wanted and became the exact thing he hated, his father.
Tobirama is actually a quite affectionate person who sees through situations clearly with very reasonable logic but a lot of people aren't ready for that conversation
Tobirama doesn't know his own type so why are we assuming about it
i declined a date cuz i thought 'he ain't no tobirama'