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“ew thick water gross and weird” ITS NOT FUCKING FOR YOU!!!!! “ew why buy pre-cut vegetables when you can cut your own” ITS NOT FUCKING FOR YOU!!!!!! “I don’t need a device to help me put my socks on I’m not lazy” ITS NOT FUCKING FOR YOU !!!!!!!!! “Why drink liquid meals when you can cook them” ITS!!!!! NOT!!!!!! FOR!!!!!! YOU!!!!!!!!
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With shrouded eyes you shall witness your judgement, just as the blind justice gazes at her scales.
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It's actually bizarre how much stuff in RAMCOA circles is just regurgitated right-wing / QAnon talking points and how much "information" about RAMCOA has been poisoned with conspiracy theory material. Colin Ross's work, for example, is chock full of it. And Ozian, as I hope we all know by now, is an antisemite.
RAMCOA is very real, it's just that when reliable information and survivors' own experiences are haphazardly lumped in with antisemitic conspiracy theories and right-wing "save the children" hysteria, it looks a lot less real. Be wary of any creator, researcher, clinician, or other community figure who perpetuates right-wing moral panic, conspiracies, and antisemitic rumors.
hey guys can we. stop siting legion sys as a valid source. and praising them as the blueprint of ramcoa ''educators''. they made up half the stuff in their google drive. they believe in junior programming. they have actively encouraged their followers to attack people with different opinions to them. they traumadump every 3 videos with no warning at all. for funsies. guys. can we. guys.
Friendly reminder that Tom Riddle didn’t create Voldemort. Dumbledore created Voldemort.
Tom was raised in a Religious Orphanage in the 30s and 40s. He was not treated nicely by anyone. Of course he would be vindictive and hate Non-Magicals.
Dumbledore on the other hand decided that an eleven-year-old was the anti-Christ and treated him like he was already a mass-murderer.
Tom was in the Orphanage in London when the bombs fell. Of course he would be terrified of dying. He was abandoned by his only living relatives. Of course he’d wish them dead.
Dumbledore looked at a child and saw a demon. If he had seen a child, Voldemort would never have existed.
Give me arguments if you disagree.
it's kind of hard to say we personally, genuinely believe in god. i think it's more of a last ditch for reassurance in our case.
so we can throw our hands in the air and say, look at it, he's here! he's here and he doesn't hate us! you were wrong, and we are loved. your hurt was just blasphemy. see him truly and love me.
oh my god can you people at least Google what you're talking about before you start tapping.
1. no. no programming cannot be done by one person. it is a group abuse. you already have grooming and conditioning for your experiences.
2. no. you cannot program someone online. this is coming from someone who's ex found and started to abuse cues. that's not how this works. this is called grooming, conditioning, whatever. again he FOUND and USED cues. he did not make them bc again, not how this works.
3. if you weren't programmed as a toddler/young child, you'll never be successfully programmed. sorry to break it to you, rqs. you're just torturing yourself for no reason other than fetishizing abuse. you'll never be us and I fucking envy you. i envy that you weren't fucking tortured and had your psyche fucking split in the way they wanted. do you even understand what you're doing to yourself? you're just larping it bc you hate yourself that fucking much and it's sad bc it won't even work.
4. go. to. a. therapist.
DID and ramcoa community really push it sometimes in my experience. the amount of misinformation I have been exposed to from people who refuse to research (like, with actual sources. not tiktok or tumblr lists) anything they're saying before they start claiming they know how this works is exhausting.
i keep seeing these online and they're sooo pretty... i want one
insystem relationships are so cool because it’s different from a “real” relationship because it’s not just about love or whatever it’s also about healing and feeling oneness in a way that ive never felt with an irl partner. You are me, I am you. We are one but separate and the love we hold for each other is not just about love but it’s about healing and finding joy beyond the shitty circumstances of our lives up to this point. like the “2 parts of a whole/you’re my other half” saying in terms of relationships rings so much stronger with insystem relationships because You Are Literally Another Part of Me and I think that’s kinda beautiful idk
dissecting legion's dumbass alpha to omega document.
this is going to pain me. i'll color all of the starts of the next program evaluation with a different color to show what one i'm talking about now.
First problem: "This post delineates types of programming [TBMC]" -- not all TBMC is programming like is being talked about in this document and it's completely wrong to claim or insinuate it is.
Alpha explanation is like mostly fine in that it explains what it is as a foundational program. I don't know why it was necessary to include the part about the brain-chemical process because this happens in any situation where an individual is trauma responding for long periods of time. The thing about cardiac arrest and going into shock is certainly interesting and it would be real fucking cool if they would cite the studies that influenced adding this to the document, but of course they wouldn't cite their sources in text.
Annoys me that they say Beta is the "most common" after alpha because....not necessarily?? There's not studies on this, so it's a little weird to make that claim. Wish specification of non-contact SA would have been included in explaining reinforcement of the program because I don't know what that insinuates.
Literally have never heard of Gamma being divided into two separate categories until this document. Gamma, the entire time I've been in the RAMCOA community, has been used to refer to loyalty programs to the group. What's described as "personal gamma" is called trauma-bonding. All programmers and handlers do this...because it creates trust from the victim to the abusers and allows them to manipulate their victims.
Delta isn't as bad as I thought it would be, to be honest. I'm glad it doesn't go into more detail, but I don't like how it directs "can become abusers" only onto the Delta instance because a lot of the time loyalty programs can also begin to integrate the idea that the child must rise to become a programmer/handler/higher up in the group as well.
Never heard of Epsilon being used to "instill severe self esteem issues". Again, this has always been used to refer to animalistic dehumanization programming the whole time I've been in the community and beforehand. Since when are witches non-human??? How is that Epsilon programming? I wouldn't really call spiritual entities a part of Epsilon programming, especially considering the existence of demon, angel, spirit, or other religiously tied parts often relates to.....religious programming which would fall under Theta, not Epsilon. Werewolf definitely still fits into animal stuff though and I guess..vampire? Doll/puppet programming is usually considered a subset of Beta, not Epsilon. Computers usually go with things like internal organization and hierarchial systems..and in turn are an integral part of Alpha similar to the way shells are. I think it's really...strange? that suddenly the community has moved to including all of these in Epsilon when they used to be under other labels.
Before this document, and before that stupid "rare program" document, I only ever heard Zeta referred to as apathy programming, instead of giving it a Greek letter name. Apathy programming also isn't "only" in reference to shit like gore or extreme violence, as it can be used to create apathy from survivors toward other kinds of abuse and situations that aren't necessarily violent.
Eta doesn't need a name of its own, this is literally a part of Alpha because all parts need to believe this in order to stay loyal to the group and not rebel.
Theta is fine until it gets to the bottom where it's literally describing Duality in religious programming. I guess that fits into Theta, but that...has a name that's not Theta.
I had never heard of Iota until this document. It didn't exist as a community term, no one ever talked about anything really related to it. Nothing. Realistically? Iota fits into Alpha in instilling the initial beliefs into the victim.
Kappa was literally never called Kappa and again, hadn't ever heard it called this until this document and still don't hear literally anyone using this term. Most survivors didn't even make up a term for this, they literally just explained what it was and that these parts experienced such severe dissociation from pain that they no longer felt it in many cases.
Never heard anyone call conversion symptoms from the experience of being programmed "Lamda" until this. This also is not something that really needed its own name considering the fact that it can be a part of many, MANY of the other programs that already had Greek letter names.
Silence and scramble literally have never been called Mu. They've always been called...what they are. Silence and scramble. There's not really a reason to change their names. Some people call scramble "go insane" programming, as well, but most just..call it scramble.
Nu has never been called "Nu". It's always just been called insomnia or narco in the instance of being "hypersomnia".
Xi has never been a program name, everyone used to call this flood programming because you'd be flooded with memories, emotions, flashbacks, and other things to make you basically shut down. Spin has never been seen as a "subset" of flood programming, people have always just separated it as another failsafe used because it's not the same as flooding.
Never heard timekeeping called Omicron. Not many people talk about timekeeping programming by timekeeping as a name, but many survivors talk about feeling fear, guilt, or other negative emotions surrounding turning certain ages or creeping closer to dates they were told would be Something.
Never heard Pi referred to as Pi. Again, don't know why this needed a name because this often fits into Alpha or as a "build on" to Alpha for the parts it's relevant to, and again can fit into other programs like Theta where parts believe the abusers are the entity they're intended to worship and can control their experiences and whatnot. And on a less mature note, it's hysterical the idea of calling something as serious as a program "pee".
Denial programming has never been called "Rho", it's always just been called denial. There's literally no reason to give this a separate name. Also don't love how screen memories are lumped into this category as if they don't have a name themselves and aren't a very common phenomenon even outside of programming.
Sigma is literally just fractaline programming rebranded. I wish people would shut the fuck up and let this die. So many people online have also taken to using Sigma to refer to wilderness survival programming as Sigma, so this is really confusing and of course, Legion claims their definition is the correct one.
Tau is not a name that has ever been used, as this is often a part of Gamma, not its own program. Gamma can include peoples' loyalty to the group in fulfilling the roles assigned to them within the larger group.
Why the fuck did they try to start calling Duality "Upsilon" and thought it would catch on???? Duality is literally self explanatory as a name for the most part and Upsilon sounds fucking confusing AND too similar to Epsilon.
Phi, in terms of "high expectations", is typically a continuation of Alpha that some people refer to as prodigy programming and/or academic programming. What they're talking about in the rest of this term is literally just how they form hierarchies. The high expectations is what forms the fucking hierarchies. Which is a part of Alpha?
Chi came to being the name for callback before this post, but most people still just...call it callback because that's self explanatory.
Organizational programming is called organizational programming and is, yet again, self explanatory in its existing name. It did not need a new name. I would cackle at someone if they pronounced "Psi" as "pissy" and were talking about programming, not to mention I'd have no idea what they were talking about. And again: Organizational programming IS A PART OF ALPHA.
Omega is and always has been what refers to suicide, self harm, and self destruct programming, at least since I've been in the community. It's like..mostly fine.
The shit at the bottom is stupid. Never heard someone refer to their programming as "bespoke". Never heard the words "multiprogram" because programs are SUPPOSED to work in tandem...they trigger each other to function...that's how programming works.
Would've been great if they would've cited their sources for each thing and it also just proves that they attributed the names of many of these to the programs rather than just...finding the community terms that already existed for them. The sources themselves seem mostly to be beneficial, so if you're going to use this document, use it for the sources, not for the shit Legion wrote.
Happy ASAW 2024, here's something about community !
writing a garbage essay feels like you’re the cow who gave birth to the two headed calf. in the morning, my professor will wrap him in newspaper and dissect him on a cold operating table. but here he is alive, under the pale glow of my computer screen. he is beautiful. there are twice as many logical fallacies as usual.
fusion is not "killing" alters. it's a form of healing. im so fucking tired. i know everyone's experiences with it are different but i need people to understand there is nothing wrong with pursuing final fusion as a system. even if it's not what you or your system want, you're allowed to have your reasons for that but please stop spreading this narrative and this rhetoric that alters fusing is this terrible thing, it's literally a sign of healing.
Weirdest thing to explain to others as a pwNPD is that I don't do casual relationships. Depending on whether or not I consider you One of Mine (which is currently my FP), I either care so much I would kill for you or I don't care at all and I would literally not blink if you disappeared. I don't exist in-between. If you're not persistently in my circle enough for me to count you as Mine, you might as well disappear into thin air.