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Jin x MC relationship & his actions in the Tanabata Festival: MY ANALYSIS
(Long post: Jin x MC, Jin’s character + Lucas)
When the Jin hate keeps coming, I’m over here liking him even more, even if he can be a complete jerk. I agree that he’s harsh, and I’m not saying the way he treats the MC is okay. He definitely has flaws and needs to change. But if you’re going to criticize him, at least criticize him for who he actually is instead of mischaracterizing him. I’ve seen people say he doesn’t care about anyone or that he doesn’t do his job, and I just can’t agree with that. You don’t have to like him, but those claims ignore parts of his character. Compared to some characters in other games or even in the game itself: Jin isn’t even close to being the worst.
Jin & MC relationship
Yes, he treats MC like a servant, and that’s not something I’m defending. I completely understand why the way Jin treats the MC is what turns most people away from him. He’s cold, demanding, and sometimes comes across as insensitive. I’m not saying his behavior is okay or that MC deserves to be treated that way: He definitely has a lot to work on. But I also think people overlook the things he does that show he genuinely cares.
Jin isn’t affectionate, so he doesn’t express concern through kind words or obvious acts of comfort. Instead, he shows it through his actions. One of the biggest examples is how seriously he takes finding a cure for MC. If he truly didn’t care about her, why would he put so much effort into trying to save her? His concern isn’t expressed in a warm way, but it’s still there. I don’t think Jin is meant to be a perfect love interest. He’s someone with deep trust issues and emotional baggage who doesn’t know how to connect with people properly. That doesn’t excuse the way he treats MC, but it does explain why he’s so emotionally closed off. His behavior is a flaw the story has made pretty clear.
Jin is also not just any student: he’s a noble and a potential heir. In his world, social status and reputation matter. A close, equal relationship with a commoner could (maybe) damage his standing and create problems for both himself and the people around him. Ironically, the master-servant relationship is probably the closest he can publicly be to MC without causing a social scandal or putting his position at risk. That doesn’t automatically make it healthy, but it does add context to why he keeps that distance.
As for the MC, I also think people underestimate her. Some people act like she’s just a helpless girl who gets pushed around and never thinks for herself, but that’s not how I see her. MC is incredibly kind and patient, she chooses to stay by Jin’s side because she understands that beneath his cold exterior, he isn’t heartless. She sees sides of him that others don’t. Is she uncomfortable around Jin sometimes? Absolutely. Is she confused by him? Yes. But that doesn’t automatically mean she doesn’t like him. I also think people forget the power dynamic between Jin and MC. Jin is the captain of Frostheim, one of the strongest students at Darkwick, and a noble who holds a much higher social status. The MC is a second-year ‘commoner’ with almost no authority. It’s not realistic to expect her to openly challenge him every time he gives an order. That doesn’t mean she’s weak or that she agrees with everything he does. It means she’s in a position where opposing him isn’t easy. Despite that, she still makes her own choices when it matters.
In the last goodbye episode, Jin loses his temper and smashes the glass. I never saw that as him directing his anger at the MC. To me, it was frustration directed at himself and at the situation. His emotions exploded because he felt powerless.
What’s important is the MC’s own thoughts afterward. She realizes why Jin is so angry. She even believes she did something unforgivable by going on the mission without telling him first even though, from our perspective, it wasn’t really her fault because she wanted Rui to have a chance. She understands that Jin’s anger came from fear of losing her, not from wanting to hurt her.
She isn’t thinking, “Jin is horrible.” Instead, she’s trying to figure out how to navigate her complicated relationship with him. She knows he’s done everything he can to find a cure for her, and she recognizes that his actions come from a desire to protect and save her, even if his way of expressing it is deeply flawed.
One line that really stands out to me is:
That line says a lot. MC doesn’t just see broken glass: she sees Jin. His heart is fractured, guarded, and full of emotions he doesn’t know how to express. It’s a moment where she looks beyond his cold exterior and understands that there’s pain underneath it.
That doesn’t mean she approves of everything he does. Understanding someone isn’t the same as excusing them. But I do think the story is showing that MC sees a side of Jin that many readers overlook. Their relationship isn’t built on perfect communication, it’s built on slowly learning to understand each other. That’s why I don’t think their relationship is meant to be judged only by where it is now. It’s clearly written as something that’s still growing.
MC has her own opinions and makes her own decisions. Kindness shouldn’t be mistaken for weakness. Being patient with someone doesn’t mean she’s incapable of standing up for herself.
Jin’s biggest problem isn’t that he doesn’t care, it’s that he doesn’t know how to express that care in a healthy way. He protects through actions rather than words, works hard to find a cure for MC, and often carries burdens without explaining himself. His feelings are there, but his communication is terrible. I don’t think Jin × MC should be judged as if this is the final version of their relationship. Their dynamic is clearly written to evolve. The interesting part isn’t who Jin is now, it’s whether he’ll learn to trust MC, treat her as an equal, and express his feelings in a healthier way. If that growth happens, then the relationship will naturally become much stronger. That’s also why I don’t think it’s fair to judge their relationship as already complete. Character relationships are supposed to develop over time. If Jin learns to communicate better, trust MC, and treat her with the respect she deserves, then their relationship can naturally grow into something much healthier.
I don’t ship them because Jin is the perfect ML for MC but I ship them because I find their potential interesting. I want to see him change, open up, and become someone who can express his feelings in a healthier way. You don’t have to like Jin or the ship, but I think it’s worth letting his story unfold before deciding that he’s incapable of caring or changing.
There’s a difference between being emotionally distant and being outright abusive. He doesn’t physically hurt her or intentionally abuse her. He has trust issues because of his past and clearly struggles to let people get close. That doesn’t excuse his behavior, but it helps explain why he acts the way he does. You don’t have to forgive him or even like him, but reducing him to “he’s just a terrible person” ignores the nuance in his character.
Jin’s character/behavior in Tanabata Festival
As for the new episode Tanabata festival: Yes, Jin raises his sword against the child Sky Prince. But we already know the Sky Prince is an ‘Anomaly’. Child or not, nobody knows whether he’s actually harmless or if he could become a danger in an instant. From his perspective, being cautious is part of his responsibility: If something had happened because he lowered his guard, people would probably criticize him for that too.
Then there’s the scene where his jealousy shows and he separates the Sky King from MC. I’m not going to defend that because it IS a possessive behavior (which I love it). Jin clearly has trouble trusting others and doesn’t know how to express his emotions in a healthy way. His jealousy is one of his flaws, not his entire personality. A character having flaws doesn’t automatically make them a bad character. (Though I agree that he was selfish when Sky King hugged MC after 10 years… He should have given more time because waiting for someone that long, that was torture. I enjoyed Jin being jealous very much but I don’t excuse his action here but I can understand if he can’t control his jealousy lol)
I’ve seen people say Jin was useless during the mission, and that’s NOT true. Before he arrived, the group was struggling and the mission wasn’t making much progress. Once Jin joined, things moved forward much faster. Of course, he wasn’t the only reason, they all contributed but Jin and Mio played especially important roles in pushing the mission ahead. The others deserve credit too, but saying Jin did nothing ignores what actually happened.
You can criticize the way he treats the MC while still recognizing that he’s competent at his job. Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. A character can be flawed in their personal relationships and still be effective when it comes to their responsibilities. You don’t have to like Jin, but I think it’s more fair to judge him based on everything he does, not just the parts that make him unpopular. I think he’s doing great in season 2 for now. The whole point is watching him slowly making progress.
Jin’s actions/intention in the Tanabata Festival
Another scene I think gets misunderstood is when Jin tells them to leave the Sinostra girl behind in the other world. A lot of people immediately took it as proof that he doesn’t care about innocent people, but I don’t think that’s the only way to read the scene.
My interpretation is that Jin was testing Lucas. That question is interesting because Jin isn’t asking “Why do you want to save her?” He’s asking whether Lucas’s motivation is truly his own. That ties directly into Lucas’s character. Throughout the story, Lucas has been raised under the Errant family’s strict code. He’s obedient and has internalized those values. Jin knows.
“Are you saving her because you believe it’s the right thing to do, or because you’ve been taught that’s what you’re supposed to do?”
If that’s the case, Jin isn’t just provoking Lucas for the sake of being cruel, he’s forcing him to examine his convictions. Jin rarely teaches through encouragement, instead, he puts people in uncomfortable situations where they have to confront themselves.
Lucas’s silence is what makes this scene interesting: If Jin’s question were meaningless, Lucas would’ve answered immediately. Instead, he hesitates.
And about the testing, it’s also about the new roles. When Jin and Thomas will leave the academy, either Lucas or Kaito will eventually have to take on the role of captain once the new academic year begins. If Lucas is going to lead others one day, Jin needs to know whether he’ll blindly follow orders or have the conviction to challenge them when someone’s life is at stake. That’s why I think Jin’s comment was less about abandoning the girl and more about seeing how Lucas would respond. A good leader shouldn’t obey every order without thinking, they need to be able to judge situations for themselves, even if it means disagreeing with their superior.
Of course, that’s just my interpretation. But considering how often Jin pushes people into difficult situations to see what they’re really made of, I don’t think it’s an unreasonable way to read the scene. Jin isn’t a character who explains his intentions. He often forces others to think for themselves, which is exactly why so many of his actions can be interpreted in different ways.
This is exactly why I don’t think Jin wanted to abandon the girl just because he didn’t care. Earlier, Jin asked Lucas, “Is it really for yourself?” At first, Lucas couldn’t answer. Later, after Lucas reaches his own conclusion, Jin tells him: “You’re finally thinking for yourself.”
To me, that confirms Jin’s intention wasn’t simply to test whether Lucas would obey him. He wanted to know whether Lucas’s decisions came from his own convictions instead of the Errant family’s teachings. If Lucas is going to become captain one day, he can’t just inherit a title: he needs to develop his own judgment.
That’s why Jin challenges him. His methods are harsh, but he’s trying to shape Lucas into someone who can think independently instead of blindly following tradition.
Of course, it doesn’t prove that every decision Jin makes is morally right. You can still criticize his methods. But these lines make it reasonable to argue that there was a purpose behind his actions, and that purpose was helping Lucas become someone who acts from his own convictions rather than inherited beliefs.
Someone wrote it perfectly with much details than mine about Jin intention in this episode, go check
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End of my analysis about Jin and his relation with MC and his actions as leader. This post is quite long that i don’t even know if I wrote it correctly lol
But I repeat AGAIN: You don’t have to like Jin, but at least judge him based on what’s actually happening in the story instead of assuming the worst about every action he takes. His behavior deserves criticism where it’s justified, but it also deserves context.
I think, the reason why Jin made Luca take his place as the cowherd in the first place is because he's testing him.
Without Jin and Tohma, either Luca or Kaito will have to assume the Captain position once the new academic year begin and Jin isn't so irresponsible as to leave his house on the hands of someone deemed incompetent.
(Yes, we know that the "Captain and Vice-Captain must be ghouls" rule will be dissolved next academic year but technically, that hasn't been decided yet.)
Jin have been trying to assess both Luca and Kaito's abilities ever since Season 1, actually. That's why during the Dragon Triangle mission he allowed them to move alone, letting them explores the Hringhorni, and made them participate in combat against the Dragon Triangle guardians.
The Unfathomable Triangle - Chapter 30
Tohma didn't think the second-years are competent enough but Jin insisted both Luca and Kaito had to participate. After all, Jin must see how they fare in action before he can deliver fair judgement.
In Season 2 though, it seemed like Jin wanted to focus on Luca. When they chose him as one of the cowherds, Jin decided this is a good opportunity to see how Luca will fare in a mission alone. While the mission looks like a great chance to break MC's curse, I don't think Jin expected much out of it. Success mean MC's curse is broken and Jin can safely trust Frostheim to Luca. Failure mean nothing's changed and Jin just had to find another way to break MC's curse. He has nothing to lose, really.
That's why Jin can placidly gave up his position to Luca, unlike back in Season 1 where he was really mad that MC didn't ask for his help for something as crucial as the Kyklos capture mission.
Tohma trusts Jin's decisions but he doesn't trust Luca yet一he trusts neither he nor Kaito are capable enough, even back in Season 1. That's why Tohma keep asking to make sure that Jin is actually okay with sending Luca. Even discreetly preparing the cowherd outfit for Jin, just in case.
Cosmic Connection - Chapter 20
Alas, Tohma's doubt were proven correct as Jin had to step in to assume his original role一much to Luca's own shame.
Luca may failed his original task but Jin still gave him chances. Which lead them to this...
Cosmic Connection - Chapter 25
"If you don't give me a reasonable explanation, I cannot follow your orders." But if you put it another way, that means Luca will follow ANY orders he deemed "reasonable".
By this point, we are all aware of how deeply ingrained the Errant family ordinance is in Luca's mind. He'll follow everything that he was taught of but indoctrination is unfortunately still indoctrination, even when the idea planted is something as chivalrous as, "You must always protect the weak."
Blindly following a set of rules simply because they're "morally right" won't make you a good leader一you still need to think and decide for yourself. Otherwise it could cloud your judgement, making you lose sight on what's really important. Back in Season 1, Kaito had to hit Luca with something quite harsh to snap him back into his senses.
The Unfathomable Triangle - Chapter 21
Fortunately for Luca, the time he spent in planet ■■ helped him unlearned it.
Cosmic Connection - Chapter 36
People were dragging Jin for pulling his sword against a child but I need you all to notice that once Luca provided him with a satisfactory answer, Jin immediately backed down and let his kouhais handled the situation with the Sky King by themselves. Jin literally never intervened again until they're back on earth.
I know Jin isn't the most easily digestable character in Tokyo Debunker but we're already at Episode 7 in Season 2 (~30 episodes in total), I think people need to pay more attention and realize that Jin have never made a move without any significant intention behind it.
If the band she loves turns out to be some anomaly then it would explain the whole Kyklos thing targeting her on the train as everybody left the group chat. They must have marked her in some way and let Kyklos wander around for her and her only.
MC falls in love with Taiga, so her wish is to stay with him even after she turns into a Kyklos herself. Instead of killing her, she wishes that he would simply devour her, as she'd rather become a part of him than cease to exist entirely.
And Taiga keeps that promise or something like that, I don't know. It just suddenly came to mind.
You know what? Darkwick described the Anomaly Curse as a sickness, and their medical faculty exists to help people cure this "illness." That makes me wonder if the curse is not actually a sickness at all, but rather a way for anomalies to coexist with humans.
We know that before ghouls make a pact with demons, they can be human or not. Tbh, I'm still unsure about Ed's case because I don't know whether he became a ghoul before being turned into a vampire or afterward, so I cannot really say much about him. But generally speaking, ghouls are technically human before all of that.
When humans make a pact with a demon and then die, it is often described almost like an allergic reaction. Their bodies and health cannot overcome the change so they die.
However, the humans who survive become ghouls. It is almost as if they are immune or they can adapt well to the "illness."
When they are described as "no longer human," at least figuratively, they become anomalies. But doesn't that mean they are already capable of coexisting with humans? Not necessarily in a social sense, but in the sense that they are still human in flesh and bone while possessing anomalous abilities. Isn't that already a form of coexistence?
They do not have to coexist with anyone or anything because they ARE the coexistence themselves.
𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐃𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐚𝐬 𝐀𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐥𝐞𝐬
This brings me to another idea.
I have always viewed the demons who make pacts with ghouls as a type of apostle. They were sent by the Lord, the same Lord that Kyklos refers to when MC encounters her again.
Their goal is to find a way for humans and anomalies to coexist and live together. However, not all of them succeed, and not every ghoul follows the same philosophy. Likewise, many anomalies do not share the same beliefs either.
For example, Towa and Lyca could be considered anomalies even before becoming ghouls. Yet they are still able to live alongside humans in some way and continue learning how to adapt. The same can be said for Shion.
Ed, on the other hand, does not necessarily feel the same way.
So perhaps these "apostles" were sent to find a path toward coexistence, but some failed in their mission.
𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐨𝐫 𝐀𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐆𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐬
Now that I think about it, this could explain why the ghouls say there is a spy and traitor among them.
What if this traitor follows the concept of Jesus' apostles, where one of them eventually betrayed him?
We always assume the traitor is working against us and serving the Lord because we do not know who the Lord is, and because the traitor seems to be sabotaging the "harmony" among the ghouls.
But what if the person the traitor actually betrayed was the Lord himself?
What if his philosophy no longer aligned with the Lord's philosophy, whether for good or bad reasons?
I think whoever this Lord is, he is definitely trying to find a way for humans and anomalies to coexist. However, he may be attempting to do it in a very destructive way, by forcing the two worlds to collide regardless of the consequences.
𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐮𝐞
If you remember the prologue, there is a narrative about humans gathering around fire and using light to chase away the darkness. Yet some people continue staring into the void, venturing to the edge of the darkness until they discover a world where they do not belong.
What if the traitor betrayed the Lord because he does not want those two worlds to collide?
Perhaps he does not believe humans and anomalies can coexist, so he tries to sabotage the Lord's plan.
Personally, I think humans and anomalies can coexist, but it would take time and tremendous effort.
You cannot force two worlds together overnight. And I think that is exactly what this Lord is trying to do.
𝐑𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐧𝐞, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐆𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐇𝐞𝐥𝐥, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐥𝐨𝐨𝐩𝐬
This could explain Rinfone and the opening of the Gate of Hell.
When you force something unnatural to happen, it disrupts everything. It messes up the entire universe.
That could be why we have timeloops and alternate timelines. The constant collision between the two worlds keeps turning everything upside down. Time and space become distorted, and it even starts affecting people's minds.
To prevent the Lord's plan from succeeding, the traitor would have to sabotage every relationship and every balance the ghouls have built with one another.
Because the ghouls themselves are coexistence.
They are the key to success.
𝐊𝐲𝐤𝐥𝐨𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐚 𝐍𝐞𝐰 𝐂𝐨𝐞𝐱𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞
However, because the traitor keeps interfering, the Lord may have become enraged.
As a result, Kyklos was sent down. Perhaps she was sent to clean up the mess by finding or creating a new "coexistence."
And who is that? MC.
Then Kyklos cursed her, and that curse transformed her into something that is neither fully human nor fully anomalous.
She became another coexistence, just like the ghouls.
She is meant to be the Queen. The Bride of the Lord. The veil. The ring.
Her role is to gather all the apostles back together, help continue the Lord's plan, and expose the traitor.
Based on this, MC is chosen to become the bridge that reunites all the ghouls so the plan can continue.
𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐮𝐝𝐚𝐧 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐩𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐲?
So what does that mean for the Kudan Prophecy? Was it all a lie?
The prophecy claims that the ghouls can save the world. I think there are several possible scenarios.
Scenario 1: "I Don't Love Them"
The MC agrees with the Lord's plan, whether willingly or unwillingly.
She gathers the apostles as their Queen and commands them to carry out the Lord's vision.
This is what I call the "I Don't Love Them" scenario.
Scenario 2: "I Love Them"
The MC rejects the Lord's plan.
Instead, she gathers the ghouls to fight against this higher power and save the world.
This is what I call the "I Love Them" scenario.
𝐖𝐡𝐲 𝐈 𝐂𝐚𝐦𝐞 𝐔𝐩 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐲
If you all remember clearly, MC says something in the very first chapter of Episode 1:
"If I'd known it was going to end like this, I wouldn't have fallen for them in the first place..."
Why would she say that?
Possibility (1)
The Lord forbids her from loving the ghouls. But she does, not necessarily romantically, but she comes to love them as people.
As lives. As individuals. As humans. As anomalies. And as something beyond both.
She comes to understand that coexistence between humans and anomalies cannot be achieved through force.
Because she is naturally kind, she cannot accept the Lord's philosophy of coercion. As a result, she betrays the Lord.
This causes his wrath. The timelines begin breaking apart, and the timeloops begin.
The Lord is punishing both MC and the apostles for opposing his philosophy.
Possibility (2)
If she had never loved the ghouls, none of this would have happened.
Maybe nobody would have been punished. Maybe the world would not have fallen apart. Maybe she should have simply obeyed and allowed the Lord to claim her.
𝐈𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐨𝐫 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐚 𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐨𝐫?
This leads me to another question.
Is the traitor truly a traitor if what he wants is to save innocent people?
If he is willing to sacrifice a few individuals in order to protect the world and protect MC?
Perhaps his actions are terrible, but his reasons are not entirely selfish.
A Third Possibility: Convincing the Lord
What if MC manages to convince the Lord?
Instead of forcing the worlds to collide, she teaches him to understand, nurture, and guide both humans and anomalies.
If that succeeds, perhaps the world never has to end.
𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐰𝐨 𝐏𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐎𝐮𝐭𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐮𝐝𝐚𝐧 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐩𝐡𝐞𝐜𝐲
Because of this, I think the Kudan Prophecy may have two possible outcomes.
Outcome 1
The ghouls and MC follow the Lord.
The worlds collide.
Coexistence happens, but not in a beautiful, peaceful way. It brings destruction, however, humanity may still survive in some form.
Outcome 2
The ghouls and MC turn against the Lord. They side with the traitor. Together, they close the gate and seal away the power once and for all.
𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐈𝐟 𝐌𝐂 𝐈𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐨𝐫?
In the prologue, one of the dialogue options is something along the lines of:
"We can escape together."
It almost sounds like an elopement.
If MC is already the Lord's Bride and somehow falls in love with one of the apostles, that could itself be considered betrayal.
So what if the traitor is actually MC?
What if she fragmented her soul and scattered it across different places and timelines? What if she has been trying to help the ghouls across countless timelines but keeps failing because the Lord continuously sends Kyklos to interfere?
Kyklos is the guide. And anyone who remains loyal to the Lord may actually be supervising MC rather than helping her.
The Lord needs MC to bring the worlds together. That is why the ghouls are also tasked with protecting her. Because she is the key.
She is the hope that can either save the world or bring about the Lord's vision of coexistence.
The Deadly in Love Connection: What If the MC's Card Was Swapped?
Connecting this to the latest episode, Deadly in Love.
A lot of people have been theorizing that someone may have swapped the MC's Goddess card with another card.
The biggest reason this theory exists is because every card is blank. Nobody can properly see it.
And because it is blank, even the MC herself would have no way of knowing whether it had been switched.
So what if her Goddess card was replaced with a Rogue card?
At first glance, that sounds terrible because "rogue" immediately makes people think of betrayal. However, throughout this theory, I have mentioned that being a traitor is not necessarily a bad thing.
Everything depends on: Who you serve. What your motives are. What philosophy you believe in.
If the MC is a Rogue, perhaps it is not because she is evil. Perhaps it is because she refuses to blindly follow any side. In fact, she could become a traitor for the exact same reason I believe the original traitor did.
Perhaps her role is not to carry out the Lord's plan exactly as he intended. Perhaps her role is to prove him wrong.
𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝, 𝐆𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐌𝐂: 𝐀 𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐛𝐢𝐝𝐝𝐞𝐧 𝐋𝐨𝐯𝐞?
This also makes me think about the myth of Hades and Persephone.
In the original myth, Hades falls in love with Persephone and takes her to the Underworld. Some stories portray it as a tragic love story between two beings who belong to different worlds.
What if TKDB is doing something similar? What if the Lord is an anomaly who genuinely loves MC?
MC may or may not love him in return.However, the fundamental problem remains the same.
Their worlds were never meant to collide and there is a barrier between them.
In that sense, the Lord's obsession with bringing the worlds together becomes much more personal.
Maybe he is not only trying to unite humans and anomalies. Maybe he is trying to reach the one person he cannot have. And because of that, he becomes willing to do anything, no matter the consequences.
People surprised that MC can rizz up an alien but we literally have Kyklos calling her Queen and talking about some (Hell) Lord. Alien just one of many things she can rizz.
Im a little lost on the New Lost Star event, can you explain plz
1- the purpose of the riddles was so the sky king can meet/know who Mc was?
2- If the sky king made the riddles to reunite with Mc, how does that work in s1, if they hadn’t met? (why would he go to hotarubi)
3- Is that why he was crying in s1, the ten years were up, he’d be integrated, but maybe like he knew something was missing?
4- The feather of the maiden anomaly? (forgot the name) what was its purpose, meaning?
(I probably should have replayed the first lost star event)
Thanks
𝐒𝐒𝟐𝐄𝐏𝟕 𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐈𝐋𝐄𝐑 𝐖𝐀𝐑𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆!!
Let me call him Sky Prince (10 years ago) and Sky King (present day) to make the timeline less confusing.
1. Was the purpose of the riddles just so the Sky King could find MC?
Yes, but not just MC.
The riddles were based on all the festival games and activities that MC and her friends showed the Sky Prince when they traveled back in time. Because of that, only MC and the friends who experienced those memories could truly understand and solve them.
The whole point was to make sure the right people found him, not just anyone. If a random Darkwick student had solved the riddles before MC arrived, it would've defeated the entire purpose.
So the riddles served two purposes:
to reunite the Sky King with the people he met 10 years ago
to ensure only that specific group could reach him
2. If the Sky King created the riddles to reunite with MC, how does that work in SS1 when they hadn't met yet?
This is actually explained in SS2.
The ghouls ask why the Sky King and the Observer didn't simply tell everyone who they were looking for instead of hiding everything behind riddles.
The answer is because, at that point in the timeline, MC and her friends hadn't traveled back yet.
Time travel in Lost Star works like a closed loop. The Sky Prince meets MC in the past, but the Sky King can only remember who she is after that trip actually happens.
Before the time travel, he knows there are people he's supposed to meet, but he doesn't know their names or faces.
Think of it like a canon event (as Lucas refers here as "fixed event"). Until that event happens, those memories can't exist.
That's also why SS1 plays out differently. Since MC and the others never traveled back in that route, they never met the Sky Prince. Without those shared memories, neither side could recognize the other or solve the riddles.
As for why the Sky King specifically chose to travel to Hotarubi, I actually don't think it's that complicated.
My guess is that MC and her friends simply told the Sky Prince about Darkwick and Hotarubi during their time together. They already introduced him to the Star Festival and all the activities, so it wouldn't be surprising if they also mentioned where they came from.
On top of that, the Sky King's civilization is far more technologically advanced than Earth. The Observer can gather information about Earth almost instantly, so if the Sky Prince learned the names "Darkwick" or "Hotarubi" the Observer could easily look them up and locate them.
So when the Sky Prince eventually became the Sky King, he already knew exactly where he needed to go. He traveled to Earth, specifically to Hotarubi, and waited for the day MC and her friends would finally arrive and solve the riddles.
On how he still knows that in SS1 then I'll explain in (3)
3. Why was the Sky King crying in SS1?
I think there are two reasons.
First, even though he couldn't remember MC specifically, he still knew he'd come to Earth for someone important. He could feel that something was missing, but he couldn't figure out what it was.
Second, he knew MC was running out of time because of her curse.
(they told the Sky Prince in the SS2 so maybe his subconscious still remember that)
He can only visit Earth once a year. If that year's festival ended without the riddles being solved, then he'd lose his only chance to find the person he came for before her curse claimed her.
That's why the moment feels so heartbreaking. He knows this might be his last opportunity, but he doesn't understand why he can't find the person he's searching for.
My theory is that integration also plays a role, just like in SS2. If he returned to his planet without fulfilling his purpose, he'd likely be integrated and lose his chance to come back to Earth.
In SS2, after everything is resolved, the Core Matrix allows him to continue observing Earth. That's why he can stay for the rest of the festival and even promises to keep researching MC's curse after he returns home.
4. What's the significance of the Wings of the Heavenly Maiden?
Canonically, it's a rare artifact kept at Hotarubi.
During the Star Festival, it's supposed to be used in the Kagura performance, but it's stolen by the student possessed by the Mask anomaly disguised as Lyca.
In SS1, Subaru mentions that everything lost during the festival was eventually recovered except the wings.
At the end of the event, the Sky King is also recorded as a "lost anomaly." It suggests they always belonged to him.
If that's true, then the wings symbolize the Sky King's protection over Hotarubi.
So in SS1:
the King is lost
the wings are lost
Hotarubi loses his protection
In SS2, the opposite happens. The King is reunited with everyone, keeps the wings, and even promises he'll continue visiting Earth. The report still marks him as "lost" but the ghouls and MC know he'll return. That's basically their little secret.
This next part is just my own theory.
We know someone sabotaged the events of SS1.
If MC and the ghouls failed to solve the riddles, then they would never travel back in time. Without that time loop, the Sky Prince never meets them, so the Sky King has no reason to keep returning to Earth.
In other words, breaking the loop means Earth loses the Sky King's protection.
That would explain why someone tried so hard to prevent everything from coming together in SS1.
In SS2, that sabotage becomes much harder. Dionysia's artisans return, Mio strengthens security, Clockwork anomalies are scattered around the area, and both Tohma and Alan are present during the festival. On top of that, the ceasefire between Vagastrom and Frostheim makes it much more difficult for a spy to interfere.
One more thing I find interesting is the real-world inspiration behind the Wings of the Heavenly Maiden.
In the original legend, a heavenly maiden's robe or wings are stolen, preventing her from returning to heaven.
That makes me wonder if the stolen wings in Lost Star are meant to parallel the Sky King's situation. Without them, perhaps he couldn't properly return home or travel freely between Earth and his planet.
Or, if you prefer a more symbolic interpretation, the wings simply represent the bridge between the two worlds.
In SS1, that bridge is never completed because the time loop fails.
In SS2, MC and the ghouls successfully complete the loop, allowing the Sky King and Earth to reconnect. In that sense, the wings become a symbol of the bond they restored.
This man collects emotional damage certificates like they're Pokémon cards.
I mean... on some level, he really is a perfect match for MC.
They're both people who were never given enough time. At least his situation got resolved in some way, but the whole "our time is running out" thing is something they both understand better than anyone.
Doomed couple.
Soulmates if fate wasn't such a professional hater.
(bro was the "God" but he's more devotion to MC than people toward him)
Minor Season 2 Episode 7 spoiler below (just me Jin-posting)
I was honestly laughing so hard when Jin was acting jealous every time MC and the Sky King had a moment together, even when the Sky King was a child🤣 He had to conveniently butt in every time.
If this was a manhwa Jin would’ve definitely been the first ML hahaha. He really fulfills the cold duke of the north trope.
I just feel like these two tend to have more screen time than the others. In manhwa terms this would make them endgame (and like always the MC could honestly do sooo much better)
